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Bill Starr on Getting Bigger Arms

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For the new guys that pop in time to time wanting bigger arms and then get chagrined when we tell them to deadlift and squat.

The Tight Tan Slacks of Dezso Ban: Bigger Arms - Bill Starr

Bigger Arms
by Bill Starr

There is another way to guarantee bigger, fuller, more powerful arms, and here it is.

The number one reason why men start training with weights is to have bigger and more muscular arms. Sure, some guys also want thicker chests or trimmer midsections; nevertheless, big arms are also high on their wish list. Somehow an idea has evolved in the male psyche that big arms equals sexual prowess and overall strength. Whenever a man hits a pose to display how fit he is, he will always flex his biceps. The pose and the gesture are simply a part of our culture.

As a result the novice firmly believes that, in order to gain the big arms he so desperately wants, he must put most of his energy into exercises that hit the biceps and triceps directly. Often his entire weight- training program revolves around upper-arm exercises. Those for the back and legs are done with token weights almost as an afterthought. After all, the only bodypart that matters is the arms.

The problem with the above approach is that type of training for the arms doesn’t work. True, if the beginner puts in a great deal of work, he may in fact increase the shape of his arms. However, seldom does he add any noticeable size to them. Giving the arms priority while neglecting the other bodyparts will also result in a comical physique. Large arms on a proportioned physique are admirable, but they are not on a person with skinny legs and a flat, undeveloped back.

Another problem exists for those who only focus their training on their arms. These individuals do far too much specialized work on the arms, and in most cases, do so before a strong enough foundation has been built to handle all the substantial stress to muscles, tendons and ligaments. The result is sore elbows or shoulders or both from overtraining.

I used to visit a nice gym located just across the Mason-Dixon line in Pennsylvania whenever I was on vacation from school. One time I was on my Christmas break and I made the scenic drive north. I got to the gym early to beat the rush and found only two others working out – high school boys doing leg presses. By the time I finished warming up they were doing straight-bar biceps curls. With nothing else to do, in between my sets I watched these guys. They did a half-dozen curls with the straight bar, moved to the EZ-curl bar and did 6 sets, and then concluded with 10 sets of dumbbell curls. Next, they started in on their triceps: French presses, skullcrushers and pushdowns on the lat machine. I didn’t bother trying to count all the sets, but these guys did a lot of them.

I did my hour and one-half workout, and they were still hitting their triceps when I left. I must admit these individuals were determined to attain bigger arms; however, I also knew they were going about their goal the wrong way. I decided that if I ran into them again, I would break my rule about offering unsolicited advice and talk to them. I didn’t see them again until spring break. They were hammering away on EZ-bar curls when I stepped into the gym. Both wore tank tops, and I took a look at their arms to see if they had made any progress. One of them had his elbows wrapped. I concluded their arms were more shapely than before but I swear I didn’t see any increase in arm size

I went over and introduced myself. The one with the wrapped elbows was Jerry, and the other was Bert. Bert recognized my name from some articles he had read in MuscleMag and this fame was useful because it gave me some weight as an authority. At least they would listen to what I had to say. Understanding that no one of any age likes to have his program criticized, I tried to be diplomatic. “Would you two like some advice on your program? Or are you happy with what you’re doing?” I asked. They glanced at one another, and then Jerry answered, “We were just talking ’bout that. We’re kinda stale right now. We might switch to Scott [preacher] curls and maybe some pulley curls. Whaddaya think?”

“I have a suggestion a bit more drastic in mind. I’m assuming your main goal for being here is to get bigger arms, right?”

“Yeah,” they said in unison.

“Is what you’re doing now working?”

This question threw them for a moment. Then Bert replied, “Somewhat, I guess.” He flexed his biceps muscles. While his arms did have excellent definition, some female members in the gym had bigger arms than him.

“Where did you get your routine?”

Jerry reached in his gym bag and pulled out several articles on arm development along with photos of the authors. I scanned the articles and photos, handed them back and said, “You know, boys, these guys are very advanced bodybuilders, and the odds are they’re using steroids and most likely some other stuff. What they’re doing just doesn’t apply to you right now.”

Their mouths dropped open, and they wore stunned expressions. Bert said “Are you saying these guys are wrong?”

“Not at all. Their advice is very useful to those in the same category as they are. That category includes only very advanced and professional bodybuilders. What they recommend doesn’t fit your category. You’re beginners and need to take another approach if you want bigger arms. Now I understand that arms are the main focus of your workouts, but would you mind if your legs, back and shoulders got bigger too? Or if you put four or five inches on your chest?”

Their eyes lit up as they imagined such a transformation. Jerry gushed, “No, that would be great. We wanted to get our arms big first and then concentrate on some other bodypart – probably the chest.”

“Well, I’ve got some good news for you. You can get all your muscles, including your arms and chest, bigger at the same time.” I paused as their grins grew wider. Then I dropped the bomb. “But you’re going to drop the curls and those triceps exercises you’re doing now.”

“How are we gonna get our arms bigger if we don’t do curls?” blurted Bert.

“You’re going to get bigger arms by making your entire body bigger. Once you pack on some bodyweight and establish a solid base of strength, you can go back and use curls to shape your biceps, but doing hour after hour of both curls and triceps work isn’t getting the job done for you right now. What you need is more mass, to get bigger.”

I gave them a few moments to let this sink in and then added, “What I’m talking about is a program built around concentrated hard work on the large muscles. The small groups such as the biceps and triceps will take a back seat for a while.”

“You talking ’bout doing heavy squats and deadlifting – stuff like that?”

“I am.”

“But we’re not interested in a strength routine. We’re bodybuilders. We’re not powerlifters.”

“Well, being a powerlifter isn’t such a bad idea, but that’s not where you’re heading – unless you want to later on.” Anticipating after our prior encounter that I may run into this pair again, I had packed some old Strength & Health magazines in my gym bag. First I showed Bert and Jerry some photos of Tommy Kono and Bill March when they won Mr. Universe titles in conjunction with the Olympic-lifting world championships. “Great upper-arm development, don’t you think?”

“Yeah, I think so,” admitted Bert. Jerry nodded agreement.

“Neither of them did any bodybuilding at all. They were champion Olympic weightlifters. They got their amazing arm development from doing heavy overhead presses, jerks and pulls – no curls whatsoever.”

“That’s amazing,” muttered Bert.

I opened another magazine and showed them a photo of Phil Grippaldi flexing his huge triceps. “Here’s another national-champion Olympic lifter: Phil Grippaldi from New Jersey. His arms got so big from doing the Olympic lifts that he had to do exercises to tone them down. They were preventing him from racking his cleans.”

Jerry chuckled. “I never heard of anybody wanting to make his arms smaller.”

“Well, he’s the only one I ever heard about.”

While they were most impressed, Bert voiced his objection. “But I still don’t see how we’re gonna gain size on our arms by squatting.”

“How much weight have you gained since you started on this program?”

They looked at one another. Then Jerry provided, “Two to three kilograms.”

“Where do you think the additional muscle for your upper arms is going to come from? You can’t shift bodyweight from your glutes or your midsection to your arms.”

Jerry argued, “We didn’t want to put on a lot of weight because we figured some of it would end up on our guts. And we didn’t want that.”

“I fully understand, but in order to gain size in any area of your body, you have to pack on more bodyweight. You can get stronger while staying at the same bodyweight and you can certainly shape your muscles. However, you cannot get bigger muscles. Granted, not all of the new bodyweight will be where you want it, but you have to give a little to get a lot. This strategy is how all the top bodybuilders go about adding new muscle. First, they bulk up, and I guarantee you all the added weight is not where they want it to be either. Once they get to their target bodyweight, they start to cut back and get rid of unwanted kilograms. They may gain 15 kilograms and lose all but five of them as they prepare for competition.”

“What’s the point of getting bigger if you’re just going to turn around and lose it?” contended Bert.

“Good question. In the process of getting heavier, the top bodybuilders also get considerably stronger. Their muscles, tendons and ligaments adapt to the new stress and are able to handle much heavier weights on all exercises as well as allowing the bodybuilders to sustain training at a more intense level for longer sessions. This staying power really gives these guys a big edge when the time comes to trim down, and they don’t lose all the weight they gained. They are now five kilograms heavier than they were in their last cycle.”

“I’m still not sure I understand how getting bigger will help us get bigger arms if we’re not working them hard.”

“You will be working them hard. Much harder than ever. Now for anyone to curl 225 kilograms is impossible, but both of you will be capable of shrugging that much and doing high pulls in excess of 130 kilograms in a few months. Much of the work done on those two exercises is done by the biceps and the prime movers of your upper arm – the brachioradialis and brachialis. If you increase your strength levels by 50 percent or more during a strength phase, when you come back and start in on more specific exercises for your arms, chest or any other bodypart, you’re going to be able to use more weight than before. How much are you using for your straight-bar curls?”

“40 kilograms,” said Bert. “For 15 reps.”

“All right. Let’s say you work hard and increase your bodyweight and add weight to all the primary lifts by a considerable margin – maybe to where you’re doing twice as much in the high pull and shrug as when you started out, and to where you increase your squat by a 45 kilograms and your bench press by 20. When you come back to the straight-bar curls, you’ll be able to use a great deal more weight than before. How would your biceps respond to using 60 rather than 40?”

Their faces beamed at such a prospect – curling an Olympic bar with two 20 kilograms plates.

“The same notion applies to your triceps. If you really work your flat benches, incline benches and weighted dips as you pack on bodyweight, I can assure you that your arms are going to grow because your triceps are going to grow.” The two made eye contact with one another. Bert nodded, and Jerry said “All right. I can’t see what we have to lose by trying out your program. Lay it out.”

“First, you both have to agree to stick with it for at least two months. Second, you have to do exactly what I tell you. No more, no less. No slipping in some of your own exercises on the sly. If you do, the results will not be nearly as positive. As I mentioned earlier, you will not be doing any curls or those triceps exercises I’ve seen you do. Both French presses and skullcrushers are really stressful to your elbows. Some advanced athletes can get away by doing them, but not beginners. Instead of curls you will do chins, which I consider a great biceps exercise, that also gives an added bonus of helping you build a broad back. The only specific exercise you will do for your triceps is the straight-arm pullover. It’s not at all stressful to the elbows and hits the long head of the triceps. Still interested?”

“Sure,” said Bert on their behalf. “Lay it on us.”
“Since you may not know how to do some of the exercises, I will go through the program with you all this week – today [Monday], Wednesday and Friday. Then you’ll be on your own till the end of the semester.” They nodded in agreement, and I said “Go do a set of crunches, or situps, and 25 back hyperextensions. We’ll start out with squats.”

On that Monday we did
full squats, 5 x 5
clean-grip high pulls, 5 x 5
bench presses, 3 x 5, 3 x 3, plus a back-off set of eight reps
chins, 4 x max
incline dumbbell bench presses, 2 x 20.

As we trained I found out these guys had already been squatting, but only with 100 kilograms. They also did some pulls in the seated lat machine. I didn’t push the numbers up but I primarily taught them how to go low in the squat. I also gave them pointers in the high pulls and bench.

Bert remarked, “I can see where heavy benching might help get the triceps bigger and how those high pulls can help the biceps, but how do squats fit in? I mean, they aren’t connected to the arms at all.”

“Well, in a way squats are connected. Squats are included in your program because they are the very best exercise to do if you want to add bodyweight. They stimulate growth in the entire body. The squat is the key exercise in this program.”

Even though Bert and Jerry had been doing some back and leg work previously, the squats and high pulls dug deep into those large muscle groups. When I arrived on Wednesday, I found two very sore pups waiting for me. However, the soreness was like a tonic to them. They couldn’t wait to get started. I had them spend additional time warming up and then we did
incline bench presses, 5 x 5, plus a back-off set of 8 reps
light squats, 5 x 4
good mornings, 4 x 8
straight-arm pullovers, 2 x 20
weighted dips, 4 x 8.

I told them, “You have to up your caloric intake if this program is going to work. Muscle can’t be formed out of thin air. You have to eat a lot more. Your body has to have extra fuel because you’re working a great deal harder than you were before and you need some excess to pack on bodyweight. Eat lots of small meals throughout the day and night. Drink a protein milk shake right after you complete your workout and drink another at bedtime. Many bodybuilders used to carry hard-boiled eggs around with them and would eat those eggs periodically throughout the day – an excellent way to maintain a positive nitrogen balance. Be sure to stretch out tonight. Stretching will help you get rid of some of your soreness.”

By Friday the soreness in their tarps and legs was gone, but the good mornings had been hell on Bert’s and Jerry’s lower back. Bert confessed he had difficulty getting out of bed the next morning. I informed him, “That pain you feel is why good mornings are often referred to as tomorrow mornings.”

We did
full squats, 3 x 5, 2 x 3, and a back-off set of 8
flat benches, 4 x 8
shrugs, 5 x 5
straight-arm pullovers, 2 x 20
chins, four sets of as many reps as we could do and then three sets of free-hand dips.

“How are you guys doing on your diet?” I asked.

Jerry replied, “Well, we drank a shake at the dairy bar after we finished on Wednesday but we haven’t yet put together enough money to go to the health food store and buy some protein powder. That stuff ain’t cheap.”

“I’m very aware of the cost of commercial protein powder. Here’s what you can do. Go to the supermarket and buy some dried milk. A one kilogram carton will run you about eight dollars. A cup of the dried milk will provide 32 g of protein. Add in some ice cream, milk and maybe some yoghurt, and you’ll have 50 g of protein. That amount is all your body can assimilate at one time anyway.”

“Eight dollars we can manage,” Jerry said as he wrote in his training book. I had insisted they keep accurate records of all the exercises they did, as well as sets and reps and weight used, and they complied readily.

While they recorded their numbers for the last few exercises, I said “Every other week, substitute bent-over rows for clean-grip high pulls. Other than that, keep every aspect of the program the same. One final rule is you have to get a lot of rest. This routine is a demanding one. If you’re feeling droopy when you get out of bed in the morning, get more rest the next night. Eat like a starving Viking. Train hard and get plenty of rest.”

I had already taught them how the progressions on the various lifts should go and I helped them set some realistic goals for the next two months. I gave them my phone number and said they could call me if they ran into any problems. Jerry called twice, mostly to brag, but also to ask about proper weight selection for a few of the exercises.

Ten weeks passed by before I saw them again. They were at the squat rack. Jerry and another gym member were spotting Bert, and I was pleased to see Bert was handling 150 kilograms for his final set of five. My pupils’ physiques had altered rather remarkably in such a short period of time. They maintained erect postures, proudly displaying bulging tarps, pecs and quads with pride.

My students were glad to see me and couldn’t wait to show me all the improvement they had made. Bert had gained seven kilograms. He increased his squat by 40 kilograms and his bench by 30. Jerry was five kilograms heavier. He had added 35 kilograms to his squat and 15 to his bench.

“How about your arms?” I asked with a grin. Their arms were noticeably larger. “An inch bigger,” beamed Jerry, and Bert offered, “Almost an inch.”

“That’s great. You boys did good. Now you can go back to your beloved curls if you want. You kept your end of the deal.”

Jerry looked at Bert. They laughed, and then Jerry said “Nah, we’re gonna stick with this routine a bit longer. You don’t get big arms doing curls.”
 
Not that my opinion counts for anything :biggrin: but there was a time when you could add my name to the newbie file. It's from personal experience that I know the above blog to be true. It's also true that peaked biceps will still look unimpressive on an arm that isn't fully muscularly developed.

Making the change isn't as painful as you might think. I found doing a full body program as Bill Starr outlined at lot more fun and definitely more rewarding. For those that need the fix, doing 2x10 curls once a week after you've done your other work won't hurt anything and gives you a nice pump so you can see how far you've progressed.
 
I think what it comes down to is people don't listen. That was the biggest mistake i made when i started and after a month i realized it and started actually listening to advice that was given to me.
 
The routine in that article is the exact routine Im doing now exept I changed good mornings for deads, good mornings I find uncomfortable. Its sick :biggrin:
 
I started this routine yesterday, and it was one of the better workouts I have had in a while. I plan on doing it for ten weeks to see if i gain 8-10lbs. I'm also gonna throw deadlifts and shoulder presses in there as well as t-bar rows and leg presses.

I have been trying to get big for a while to no avail, doing exactly what those high school kids were. If this works, I'll be ecstatic.
 
Not that my opinion counts for anything :biggrin: but there was a time when you could add my name to the newbie file. It's from personal experience that I know the above blog to be true. It's also true that peaked biceps will still look unimpressive on an arm that isn't fully muscularly developed.

Making the change isn't as painful as you might think. I found doing a full body program as Bill Starr outlined at lot more fun and definitely more rewarding. For those that need the fix, doing 2x10 curls once a week after you've done your other work won't hurt anything and gives you a nice pump so you can see how far you've progressed.

I was one too, i'll admit it. +1 on everything here. It is more fun too. If i tried to have an arm day now i would be completely bored doing it.

Today was a max effort day for me on squat, deads, and bench. I feel incredible all day after this. I love this way of training.
 
Great...except paragraph 3 took me immidiately out of the article. He says doing straight up arm work will not build noticable size...then one sentence later he says it will give you a comical physique. WHICH IS IT? If it doesn't build arm size, then why would he talk about how you will look disproportionate?

Sorry. Two thumbs way down. Terrible writing in my opinion.

Not that I disagree entirely with the concept, I just think it's a Micky Mouse article. I agree 80% with what was said. And it is clearly made up to boot.
 
Great...except paragraph 3 took me immidiately out of the article. He says doing straight up arm work will not build noticable size...then one sentence later he says it will give you a comical physique. WHICH IS IT? If it doesn't build arm size, then why would he talk about how you will look disproportionate?

Sorry. Two thumbs way down. Terrible writing in my opinion.

Not that I disagree entirely with the concept, I just think it's a Micky Mouse article. I agree 80% with what was said. And it is clearly made up to boot.

True, if the beginner puts in a great deal of work, he may in fact increase the shape of his arms. However, seldom does he add any noticeable size to them. Giving the arms priority while neglecting the other bodyparts will also result in a comical physique. Large arms on a proportioned physique are admirable, but they are not on a person with skinny legs and a flat, undeveloped back.

He said neglecting other body parts while concentrating arms will do that. He also said it seldom adds noticeable size but that he may in fact increase the shape of his arms. You can call it terrible writing if you wish, but I think his point is both completely obvious and logical.

I seriously doubt the anecdote is made up. This guy spent almost the last 50 years training athletes, was the strength coach for a super bowl team, been staff at Hawaii and Johns Hopkins, and held world records for lifts in the 50s and 60s. I'm sure somewhere in that time he probably has had this experience numerous times. He made a career off this very scenario.
 
What about muscle recovery? Muscles need time to mend properly in order to build mass. If you're just starting out, you need to listen to your body- let the tissues repair themselves. When you feel much better, i.e. not so sore, then hit um again. This may take a week, but you should find the healing time narrowing soon enough to perform this exercise as stated above.
 
What about muscle recovery? Muscles need time to mend properly in order to build mass. If you're just starting out, you need to listen to your body- let the tissues repair themselves. When you feel much better, i.e. not so sore, then hit um again. This may take a week, but you should find the healing time narrowing soon enough to perform this exercise as stated above.

Your body will adapt to this type of training frequency quite fast. Even beginners. Also the frequency of squats and preses gives the new lifter plenty of practice. It's not uncommon for oly weightlifters to squat four or five times a week in some form or another. These guys are some of the strongest people in the world.
 
Great...except paragraph 3 took me immidiately out of the article. He says doing straight up arm work will not build noticable size...then one sentence later he says it will give you a comical physique. WHICH IS IT? If it doesn't build arm size, then why would he talk about how you will look disproportionate?

Sorry. Two thumbs way down. Terrible writing in my opinion.

Not that I disagree entirely with the concept, I just think it's a Micky Mouse article. I agree 80% with what was said. And it is clearly made up to boot.

I'd say you have terrible comprehension skills, try re-reading the paragraph you question, maybe by the 3rd or 4th time through you'll understand why.
 
What about muscle recovery? Muscles need time to mend properly in order to build mass. If you're just starting out, you need to listen to your body- let the tissues repair themselves. When you feel much better, i.e. not so sore, then hit um again. This may take a week, but you should find the healing time narrowing soon enough to perform this exercise as stated above.

Judging anything by muscle soreness is one of the biggest Body building myth's there is (aside from "the pump" meaning anything.

As SouthernLord said, the body will adapt.

The soreness you feel is simply because the muscles aren't conditioned to the work you are giving them. It is absolutely no indication of when the muscles are ready to train or how good of a work out you have given them. It simply means that they are not conditioned to the work you gave them.

Sometimes the best thing for soreness is to train that body part. After a period of time away form the gym, I'll do squats on monday. My legs will still be sore by wed but after I do a few sets of squats (after proper stretching) the soreness is gone. After a week of squatting 3x per week the muscles are conditioned to the work and that soreness isn't there any more.

Try a program like the one describes in this article, you will see that what he says is true, and probably won;t want to go back to your old type of training, just like the guys in the article.

I was one of those guys in this article. A walking BB mag cliche, right down to the gay ass gloves and straps. The only information I had at my disposal back then was the BB mags, so of course I believed every word I read. Why not? I mean the guys in the mag were huge and the mag said this 50 set bie routine is what they did to look like that, why would I not want to train the way the mag tells me...

A few years back I found this site and Madcow, I was getting nowhere with the BB type split so I figured what do I have to loose, I gave the 5 x 5 a shot and never looked back. Everything madcow was saying about training, soreness and the body ability to adapt, training the core lifts and not worrying about isolation, over reaching not over training, etc. were true. I made more gains in 3-6 month's time then I ever did in all those years of on and off BB mag training.
 
I'd say you have terrible comprehension skills, try re-reading the paragraph you question, maybe by the 3rd or 4th time through you'll understand why.

Comprehension? Paragraph? Are those even real words!? Quit showing off, we're not all PhD in here...
 
You're kidding right? No wonder you don't understand what you are reading.

Dictionary.com is your friend.

I think you have terrible reading between the lines skills. Re-read my response to you and maybe by the 4th time through you'll realize that you are being made fun of. Overtly.
 
No routine or concept by itself will yield the results you looking for if you dont have the GENETICS to get there....I dont care what routine you are doing!
 
I think you have terrible reading between the lines skills. Re-read my response to you and maybe by the 4th time through you'll realize that you are being made fun of. Overtly.

My initial comment still stands, you clearly don't understand what he is saying in the article.
 
No routine or concept by itself will yield the results you looking for if you dont have the GENETICS to get there....I dont care what routine you are doing!

True genetics of some may give them an advantage over others, but that is still no excuse for yourself. If you work hard with proper training there is no reason you can't achieve your goals. It may just take a little more work than the "genetically gifted."
 
Hey Guys -

I really like this article . .the beauty is in it's simplicity. . .especially for a relative newbie like me. I've been lifting since the start of the year. The first couple months were definitely more fitness based . .I did that P90x program . .and since then I started a pure bodybuilding program recommended by a supplement company . .(gargbage) and switched . .and I've been doing a 4 day push pull split for about the last month. It includes heavy compound lifts but my preference at this stage is for simplicity and real gains.

My goal is to build some real mass. I strongly believe in the compound lifts with some Oly lifts thrown in as well. Can you tell me where I can find the full program as described in the article at the start of this thread? The madcow link I've found on the web seems to be different in that it doesn't include good mornings, high pulls, shrugs, pullovers, etc.

My nutrition is in good order. I also use supplements such as pre-workout energy boosters (white flood) and creatine and protein multiple times daily. I eat excess calories in order to help me achieve gaining mass. (broken up into about 5 - 6 meals per day)

My current stats: 32 years old, 6'00" 178 lbs (up three pounds from a month ago) with body fat around 12%.

Thanks in advance

Eric
 
I'm not sure were you would find a link with that specific routine. I've seen a few of Bill's articles were he mentions that routine or one similiar.

Click the "Bill Starr" link in my signature for a huge archive of his work. It's not very organized, but it's worth the effort.
 
I'm not sure were you would find a link with that specific routine. I've seen a few of Bill's articles were he mentions that routine or one similiar.

Click the "Bill Starr" link in my signature for a huge archive of his work. It's not very organized, but it's worth the effort.

Funny you should suggest that . .I was sifting through that link as I received your reply.

Do you follow the program as outlined in article? If so, how do you structure it?

Thanks for the reply!
 
I'm not sure were you would find a link with that specific routine. I've seen a few of Bill's articles were he mentions that routine or one similiar.

Click the "Bill Starr" link in my signature for a huge archive of his work. It's not very organized, but it's worth the effort.


I never knew that was a link.

You have to change the clour of the text so people know it's a link.

That link is a great resource (just glancing over it for the first time), and I never even knew it was there.

I'm going to read the "Harder, Not Easier" article at lunch :)
 
I never knew that was a link.

You have to change the clour of the text so people know it's a link.

That link is a great resource (just glancing over it for the first time), and I never even knew it was there.

I'm going to read the "Harder, Not Easier" article at lunch :)

I probably should change the color....

All those articles came from the Tight Tan Slacks blogspot site. It took me over an hour to put them all in my blog. I wish there was a way to better organize them. It's a lot of good info though.
 
I probably should change the color....

All those articles came from the Tight Tan Slacks blogspot site. It took me over an hour to put them all in my blog. I wish there was a way to better organize them. It's a lot of good info though.

This site?

The Tight Tan Slacks of Dezso Ban

It is organized well enough that someone who really wants to learn form/ read the articles can manage.

thanks for taking the time to find and put them together like that. I just wish i knew it was there sooner, lol
 
I probably should change the color....

All those articles came from the Tight Tan Slacks blogspot site. It took me over an hour to put them all in my blog. I wish there was a way to better organize them. It's a lot of good info though.

Hell yeah it's good info . .great info actually.

I'm 4 weeks into this 4 day push pull thing I've been doing . .. (2 of my 4 days completed this week) I think I'm going to skip one this week (in order to deload) and begin the Starr program on Monday.

I actually like my current program (comes from Power training written by Robert Dos Remedios). .but I think there is too much variation for my current strength and experience level. I think the Starr program is exactly what I need.
 
Hi, Being new and not wanting to be an ass. I have to ask why is there no rowing movements in the workout? I know that the High pulls are a row..sort of. But no Horizontal rows? Should i add them or are they not required in this case?

Thanks guys
 
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