Tren! Why so bad for beginners??

[tripleOG]

Hey everyone. Just wondering why Trenbolone is so bad for beginners. I ran it my very first cycle and loved it. Crazy gains, strength, some sides but nothing I couldn't deal with. Is there more physiological resons behind not using Tren if you're a beginner or is it mainly because the side effects are so harsh?
Thank you for all replies.

 

[HAYEZ]

most people dont have the mental ability to handle it..first side they get they flip out...once you cycle a few times and try diff substances you will see that sides are blown out of proportion..then is when people usually get brave..most people arent risk takers so they pop dbol instead as a cycle because its safe lol

 

[bigtravis]

most people dont have the mental ability to handle it..first side they get they flip out...once you cycle a few times and try diff substances you will see that sides are blown out of proportion..then is when people usually get brave..most people arent risk takers so they pop dbol instead as a cycle because its safe lol

First off what Hayes said.
Second, If you just had a headache would you take morphine for it? Tren is for the experience IMO. And again what Hayes said.

 

[eClenbuterol]

Crazy gains, strength

There is less Anabolic compounds with fewer side effects that can be ran instead of Tren. All these things that you got from Tren on the first cycle can easily be said and done with a moderate doseage of Testosterone.

 

[absmuscle]

for beginer is deca,testo..basic cycle

 

[tripleOG]

Ok so it's not recommended for beginners because of the side effects and because some people can't handle it. But not for any physiological reasons. That's what i was asking, thank you to the people that actually answered the question. We all know test and other compounds can give you results with less side effects so that answer had nothing to do with my post.

 

[lookinfit75]

I think part of the reason it's used as a last resort is because of the sides. Also another reason it's one of the last compounds to use is because of it's strength, it can be used by experienced users to make gains when all other substances have been exhausted. After all, this is supposed to be a "healthy" lifestyle so why start off with the strongest, most toxic substance when similar gains can be made for an extended period of time with less sides. Also like eClen said, why would you use Morphine for a minor head ache when Ibuprofen will give you the same results without the possibility of negative sides?
Anyway, like anything else, it's a choice. Some choose to work a little (ok A LOT) harder to attain the same goals with less short/longer term sides and more long term keepable gains while others are just looking for that instant gratification and not concerned with what tomorrow will bring. I guess it all depends on how short or long sighted you are.

I forget who made this statement but it's so true: "Bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint."

 

[tripleOG]

Thank you lookinfit75, that makes perfect sense. I lifted for 8 years and gained about 75lbs before I ever did a cycle. I've only done 2 so far so i'm still a beginner and I wanted to make sure what the big fuss about tren for beginners was.

 

[ryno9000]

Let me put an analogy for you. If you have never taken a drink of booze before...would it be wise to start out with Beer or Everclear? (I'm a sober alcoholic and do not condone either, BUT, this analogy is something I think we can all understand).

You don't need a hand grenade to kill a fly. Start out with something MILD...it will be effective, you will like it, and it will leave you room for more in the future. I have run TONS of aas and still have yet to touch TREN. Stay away.

 

[tripleOG]

Let me put an analogy for you. If you have never taken a drink of booze before...would it be wise to start out with Beer or Everclear? (I'm a sober alcoholic and do not condone either, BUT, this analogy is something I think we can all understand).

You don't need a hand grenade to kill a fly. Start out with something MILD...it will be effective, you will like it, and it will leave you room for more in the future. I have run TONS of aas and still have yet to touch TREN. Stay away.

Well my first cycle was tren for 8 weeks so too late to stay away. It's the easiest for me to acquire. But i definitely understand what you're saying and it makes perfect sense. But if you only have everclear and a grenade than you just gotta get drunk and kill the fly with that shit, na'mean?!?!?! LOL

 

[tripleOG]

I don't drink alcohol either by the way. Shit's nasty.

 

[lookinfit75]

Well my first cycle was tren for 8 weeks so too late to stay away. It's the easiest for me to acquire. But i definitely understand what you're saying and it makes perfect sense. But if you only have everclear and a grenade than you just gotta get drunk and kill the fly with that shit, na'mean?!?!?! LOL

Lol, yeah man. You know what's up and you sound like you have a sound head on your shoulders so nuff said.

I will say this though, where's there's a will, there's way and if you really want something in this life you'll find a way to make it happen. You found tren and if you were able to find that, you will be able to find anything else. Just checkout Welcome to The Source Check-The Source Check and I am sure you'll be satisified. A lot of forum members are there as well and I am sure they can help you out... na'mean son!

 

[smoke67]

Let me put an analogy for you. If you have never taken a drink of booze before...would it be wise to start out with Beer or Everclear? (I'm a sober alcoholic and do not condone either, BUT, this analogy is something I think we can all understand).

You don't need a hand grenade to kill a fly. Start out with something MILD...it will be effective, you will like it, and it will leave you room for more in the future. I have run TONS of aas and still have yet to touch TREN. Stay away.

A very good way to put it!!!!

I have tried just about everything short of A bombs and tren.

 

[needtogetaas]

I don't drink alcohol either by the way. Shit's nasty.

I love the taste but do not drink.

 

[lookinfit75]

I love the taste but do not drink.

I love the "taste" of alcohol so much I drank for 15 years straight HAHAHA!

 

[HAYEZ]

I love the taste but do not drink.

i love to drink but drinkign doesnt love me i get nose bleeds if i drink 4 drinks...so very rare i ever drink anything anymore..not even a full beer if its offered

 

[jacshelb]

Something to keep in mind also is that everyone reacts slightly different to different compounds. A buddy of mine loves tren and would willingly do tren only cycles all the time. He doesn't get the tren dick, it actually has the opposite effect on him, sex drive through the roof etc. And, he blows up on it, can eat whatever he wants etc. With me, it doesn't seem to provide that kind of boost for whatever reason. I like it, but I don't go absolutely crazy for it.

My first couple cycles were test only and I started to get problems with hair loss and gyno. I cut the test dose in half and added in an equal amount of tren and guess what? No more hair loss, no more gyno to speak of. And, the gains are dryer and just as good if not better than test alone! It's like they cancelled out eachother's sides (obviously because each was ran at a reasonable dose).

Some people think I'm crazy, but I like to do the minimum effective amount for each drug and do a variety of compounds rather than a huge dose of test or something like that. That's just my preference. My last cycle was just under a gram and hardly any sides!... except for 30 lbs gained- much of which was rebound from dieting much of last year, but still very solid gains.

 

[perryscoon]

There are lots of reasons a beginner shouldn't take tren.

1) Its got some of the worst sides of all steroids, if not the worst. Most noobs will freak out and run to the doctor thinking something is wrong when its completely normal.

2) Noobs might not be able to handle the aggression in a mature manner and will flip out on their mom or girlfriend or in a bar and get their ass handed to them or landed in jail.

3) An unknowledgable noob won't get the right protein and cals needed to reap the potential benefits of tren and will waste their money and time.

4) If a noob's first steroid experience is tren, its likely they will assume all steroids are like that and will be completely turned off to the sport.

 

[nooneknosme]

i know this thread is old n all but fck it..im gonna drop a post anyway. im thinkin about runnin tren A + test E + dianabol/masteron (depending on bulk or cut). i have never used AAS before. i've been lifting for about 10yrs (but not constant as i would take 1-3 months in a year due to school/work) and my physique is nowhere near those ~2+ yrs lifters who are on AAS. hit the gym pretty much everyday when im working out, pretty clean low carb diet *for 5 yrs now*, take whey and creatine *so i guess im fairly natty* , no alcohol nor smoke, less weight more reps workouts/ supersets etc. sure i gained muscle mass but it came with annoying fat layer over it. sure people know i lift just by looking at me. but i want that lean cut look... not puffy fluffy look. btw im 26 yr old 195 lbs 5' 6" *im short so when i put on mass it makes me look more bulky compared to others with same weight + mass who are taller than me*. the only side i care about is impotency (not talkin about sex drive...mine is all time high to begin with), bitch tits (gyno) + distended gut *something similar to HGH gut, that's not good at all* . i m sure i can handle the other sides. my father's side of the family is prone to male pattern baldness, so i might be susceptible to it although it's yet to be seen. i dont really care about that. so do you guys think i should run the above cycle as beginner? some of my gym buds are already on the same cycle. 1 outta 3 of my gym buds is also AAS beginner. he seems to be doing okay. he's alrdy on his 4th week outta 12 weeks he's running. ofc it's not like im expecting i'll react to the cycle the same way he does. nowadays my schedule is hectic and i only have 2 hrs max to workout (that's weight training along with 20 - 30 mins of HIIT). cannot hit the gym 2 times a day like i used to . im gonna get my complete blood test done again soon, im planning on starting the tren A cycle after i get my results, run it for 8 weeks first. any of u guys got better suggestions? positive criticisms r welcomed. yay or nay? if so, why?

 

[rohanum]

Hey everyone. Just wondering why Trenbolone is so bad for beginners. I ran it my very first cycle and loved it. Crazy gains, strength, some sides but nothing I couldn't deal with. Is there more physiological resons behind not using Tren if you're a beginner or is it mainly because the side effects are so harsh?
Thank you for all replies.

First cycle is just plain idiotic .. You dont know how you are gonna react to basic shit like test ... You have no idea of what kind of gains/sides it will bring to you.. You basically have no experience and you go on and run the best steroid available.. Wow just wow. Second cycle is acceptable but first is just ridiculous .

 

[RickRock13]

i know this thread is old n all but fck it..im gonna drop a post anyway. im thinkin about runnin tren A + test E + dianabol/masteron (depending on bulk or cut). i have never used AAS before. i've been lifting for about 10yrs (but not constant as i would take 1-3 months in a year due to school/work) and my physique is nowhere near those ~2+ yrs lifters who are on AAS. hit the gym pretty much everyday when im working out, pretty clean low carb diet *for 5 yrs now*, take whey and creatine *so i guess im fairly natty* , no alcohol nor smoke, less weight more reps workouts/ supersets etc. sure i gained muscle mass but it came with annoying fat layer over it. sure people know i lift just by looking at me. but i want that lean cut look... not puffy fluffy look. btw im 26 yr old 195 lbs 5' 6" *im short so when i put on mass it makes me look more bulky compared to others with same weight + mass who are taller than me*. the only side i care about is impotency (not talkin about sex drive...mine is all time high to begin with), bitch tits (gyno) + distended gut *something similar to HGH gut, that's not good at all* . i m sure i can handle the other sides. my father's side of the family is prone to male pattern baldness, so i might be susceptible to it although it's yet to be seen. i dont really care about that. so do you guys think i should run the above cycle as beginner? some of my gym buds are already on the same cycle. 1 outta 3 of my gym buds is also AAS beginner. he seems to be doing okay. he's alrdy on his 4th week outta 12 weeks he's running. ofc it's not like im expecting i'll react to the cycle the same way he does. nowadays my schedule is hectic and i only have 2 hrs max to workout (that's weight training along with 20 - 30 mins of HIIT). cannot hit the gym 2 times a day like i used to . im gonna get my complete blood test done again soon, im planning on starting the tren A cycle after i get my results, run it for 8 weeks first. any of u guys got better suggestions? positive criticisms r welcomed. yay or nay? if so, why?

Using Tren for your first cycle isn't smart at all bro. Just run Test only for the first one. If you run Tren now, where do you go from here? Why start off with the most powerful and harshest AAS out there when you can get just as good results with test only? Save Tren for when gains become harder to get down the road

 

[stevesmi]

i know this thread is old n all but fck it..im gonna drop a post anyway. im thinkin about runnin tren A + test E + dianabol/masteron (depending on bulk or cut). i have never used AAS before. i've been lifting for about 10yrs (but not constant as i would take 1-3 months in a year due to school/work) and my physique is nowhere near those ~2+ yrs lifters who are on AAS. hit the gym pretty much everyday when im working out, pretty clean low carb diet *for 5 yrs now*, take whey and creatine *so i guess im fairly natty* , no alcohol nor smoke, less weight more reps workouts/ supersets etc. sure i gained muscle mass but it came with annoying fat layer over it. sure people know i lift just by looking at me. but i want that lean cut look... not puffy fluffy look. btw im 26 yr old 195 lbs 5' 6" *im short so when i put on mass it makes me look more bulky compared to others with same weight + mass who are taller than me*. the only side i care about is impotency (not talkin about sex drive...mine is all time high to begin with), bitch tits (gyno) + distended gut *something similar to HGH gut, that's not good at all* . i m sure i can handle the other sides. my father's side of the family is prone to male pattern baldness, so i might be susceptible to it although it's yet to be seen. i dont really care about that. so do you guys think i should run the above cycle as beginner? some of my gym buds are already on the same cycle. 1 outta 3 of my gym buds is also AAS beginner. he seems to be doing okay. he's alrdy on his 4th week outta 12 weeks he's running. ofc it's not like im expecting i'll react to the cycle the same way he does. nowadays my schedule is hectic and i only have 2 hrs max to workout (that's weight training along with 20 - 30 mins of HIIT). cannot hit the gym 2 times a day like i used to . im gonna get my complete blood test done again soon, im planning on starting the tren A cycle after i get my results, run it for 8 weeks first. any of u guys got better suggestions? positive criticisms r welcomed. yay or nay? if so, why?

tren was my 6th cycle. and I was in my 30's... what makes you think at 26 and with inconsistent training that you are more ready than I was with zero steroid experience?

also please do not bump posts, start your own thread.

 

[dylangemelli]

you really think its smart to pick the harshest compound you can find and introduce your body to that first? if you think that's wise then you need to re enroll in elementary school and go all the way back through... would you start on a harley when learning how to ride a bike or would you start on a small 250 cc bike and learn? would you start at the three point line when your learning how to play basketball or start next to the basket and gradually move out as you get better and experienced? use your head... or learn the hard way... if you don't listen though, don't come back asking for help because everyone told you otherwise...