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PuddleMonkey said:
I dunno, it's not gory or anything. Starts out with him laying on the bed and ends with him laying on the bed. Just looks like he's sleeping. One video I wish I hadn't watched was that Russian soldier on that hill. They shoot him in the stomach to weaken him, then a few seconds later a guy pulls out a knife and beheads him. And if the visual wasn't bad enough, you can hear him choking on his own blood as he tries to breath. I don't suggest seeking it out.
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Is that the one where the other guy is holding his head down with his boot? If so, I haven't seen the part where they shot him in the stomach first.
 
KB, I miss you so much. I waited so long to have you and I thank God for the 19 plus years I had with you. As of next month you would've no longer been a teenager. You would've entered a new millinium. I guess you entered it earlier and a different one. I love you so much my son, my only son. I hope you find the peace that you could not find here. As much as I miss you, I can go on knowing that you have been released of the private hell that you were living in.
Mental illness truly is a silent killer, especially when it is not easily recognized.
With all my (broken) heart.
Mom
 
Cal_21 said:
I'm really glad I haven't bought any supps of bb.com in years. I don't think it's an internet forum's place to fix his life, but to egg him on is unconscionable...I can't imagine this happening here, just sayin...

The fact that they literally watched the kid die for their entertainment makes me want to bash their heads in with a dumbbell too.
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Because of your join date that is a legitimate sentiment. Were your joind date before 06 but after 02 then I would say that you must have spent more of your time on every other board EXCEPT chat here on elite. Those were some really REALLY dark times for elitefitness. Heck, I posted up about a trip I was finally going to make to the emergency room because I had symptoms that mimicked a blot clot in my lung. (Thank goodness that was NOT the case.) I had 99% of the chat board laughing at me saying THEY WISHED DEATH ON ME. In those years you would not believe the unbelievably nasty hate-filled posts, Knotes, etc that were directed towards me... You can't begin to know how many times I thought to take my life because of what was going on in my real world, but then to have it echoed online?!?... shit, there were entire message boards on bbing sites on the web that were dedicated to spewing the most vile hatred, you can't begin to imagine. To this day, I refuse to go to other sites mainly because of this reason.

I am very proud and happy to say that all that has changed on elite - that WE truly are head and shoulders ABOVE the rest because WE don't tolerate that sort of bullshit inhumanity here. Disrespect? A situation like this doesn't BEGIN to touch disrespect - it is INHUMANTIY pure and simple.

There are still tiny shreds of it though. It took a minute for our community here on elite to allow ourselves to become infiltrated by these lower forms of life - those who glean pleasure from the suffering of others. And once we let those cockroaches in, they multiplied like wildfire. It took YEARS to get rid of all of them, heck, sadly because they were amongst us, some of their filth rubbed off so it took a long time for us to completely erradicate them and fix our heads as to what is proper and acceptable and what IS NOT.

Having said this I still say that it is NOT *the internet's responisibility* that this unfortunate circumstance took place. That guy was tortured and truth be told regardless of what the site had done, or who reached out he may have taken his life regardless. Often times people that talk about suicide are actually reaching out for help. They don't WANT to die, however, that isn't always the case. That is why ANYTIME someone talks about such things it should be treated as if you accept that person WANTS to go through with it and do whatever you can to reach out or at the very least allow that person to vent. Heck, isn't that what many of us do when we are down/confused/angry?

Don't we all VENT?!?!

This hits home to me in a way that mmost of you are incapable of understanding as I have 4 children that are out of my reach. They are trapped in an abusive home and they really believe that they can never escape. Two of them are being medicated with anti-depressants, psychotropics and other meds INSTEAD of the people who are SUPPOSED to be protecting them saying, "Well hell, if the kids *suddenly became suicidal* maybe they should be removed from THAT home... instead of giving them more and more drugs that they don't need in the first place INCREASING the chance that they migh commit suicide!?!?"

DUH....

I was very upset about this yesterday and began a thread seeking some support. The first two pages or so were a bloodbath - not as bad as it would have been 2+ years ago - true. But I had people PMing me and calling me asking me to delete the thread and to stop posting about because it was clear that there were still too much negativity on elite for me to open my heart like that. But the good news was the thread continued and turned into something VERY positive for me. I was BEGGING for help and support from my community and though it was a tiny bit slow - IT CAME.

I am talking way too damned much but as you can see, I have so many emotions about so many aspects of this story. I want so much for everyone here to better understand (if they haven't already) that most of us are REAL PEOPLE and though we may not all e-like one another we should always TRY to conduct ourselves in a fashion that if someone that is close to us were to observe, they wouldn't shake their heads and cluck their tongues and say, "Damn, I am ashamed at my (son, brother, wife, cousin, best friend, etc ... fill in the blank) 's e-behavior. He/She isn't like that in REAL life."

How bout we make strides daily to be our authentic selves with one another?
 
If you go on the misc chat over there right now all they are worried about is that section of the boards being shut down. They are pathetic and have no remorse; they only care about how their lives are affected. Most of them are young and immature and the misc board is like a giant clique. Some are saying its freedom of speech and it won't be shut down but that is bullshit, there is going to be a media firestorm around this and it's bad pub for bb.com.
 
It's disgusting the way they were toward him. His poor family. I can't imagine watching my daughter kill herself, and you know his parents watched it. Closure I guess, but I'm sure they'll end up reading the thread and see those pieces of shit cheer their son on to kill himself for their amusement. My heart goes out to them.
 
Alright, well, another day is upon us. This is headlined worldwide, from Yahoo in France to CNN, Fox News and MANY other sites. As far as the level of maturity over there, there is NO question that the people in C&C here are far more mature than those over there. There are many reasons for that here. 1) Majority of the people here are 21+ and have full-time jobs, 2) We may disagree with people, but we will respect them, 3) Fortunately, the C&C hasn't grown tenfold as BB.com, thus, bringing less and less idiots and immature people to this site. It's just a fact, when you grow that quickly, there will be more and more trolls that we must deal with. On a given day, I have no idea how many people/accts the elite mods delete here. Over there, JUST based on the misc, there are over 100 (+/-) people a day that are banned. It could be less or more, it's very darn close. Lastly, the main difference between the two sites is that people here tend to be friendlier, and a generally tighter-knit crew, which is VERY important.
 
sawastea said:
Alright, well, another day is upon us. This is headlined worldwide, from Yahoo in France to CNN, Fox News and MANY other sites. As far as the level of maturity over there, there is NO question that the people in C&C here are far more mature than those over there. There are many reasons for that here. 1) Majority of the people here are 21+ and have full-time jobs, 2) We may disagree with people, but we will respect them, 3) Fortunately, the C&C hasn't grown tenfold as BB.com, thus, bringing less and less idiots and immature people to this site. It's just a fact, when you grow that quickly, there will be more and more trolls that we must deal with. On a given day, I have no idea how many people/accts the elite mods delete here. Over there, JUST based on the misc, there are over 100 (+/-) people a day that are banned. It could be less or more, it's very darn close. Lastly, the main difference between the two sites is that people here tend to be friendlier, and a generally tighter-knit crew, which is VERY important.
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My brother, I don't know about numbers but when elite was way smaller, when there were like what 6 boards maybe and like a dozen moderators (they were ALL elite moderators at that time) there was NO BULLSHIT on chat. I mean, yea it could be fierce if you were a fuckstick but even then there was respect and a modicum of decorum at ALL TIMES. People would flame "intelligently" and not get into any vicious personal attacks. Anyone who tried got dumped IMMEDIATELY - no waffling - no majority vote - just BANNED for being a doucheknuckle.

IMHO the smaller a board is, the easier it is to set and maintain a standard.

If it was allowed for a bunch of ignorant monkeys with internet access (no offense to Puddles LOL) to fling their own e-poo at one another even ONE TIME, let alone for months/years on end then sadly it is very hard to clean that up.

I'd never been to that board as I'd made a personal policy of not going to other boards because of the nastiness that I personally observed. There was a time when I was a moderator on a couple boards but can anyone with a job and other adult responsibilities moderate even ONE board all the time, let alone moderate several SOME of the time? But then the internet exploded and too much hatred was the order of the day, totally turned me off.... but obviously it drew others in. Which is a scary statement IMHO.

I feel badly for the administrators of the board and I do still feel that they in no way bear responsibility for the tragic actions of this young man. However, I do feel that it is a SERIOUS lesson to every administrator of ALL forums. If you live by the sword (or even tolerate others wielding that sword in your "back yard", then you (or your neighbor/guest) will surely die by it.

If a board can't affect the lives of people in a positive fashion then I am thinking they need to perhaps rethink why it is they are there in the first place?
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Because of your join date that is a legitimate sentiment. Were your joind date before 06 but after 02 then I would say that you must have spent more of your time on every other board EXCEPT chat here on elite. Those were some really REALLY dark times for elitefitness. Heck, I posted up about a trip I was finally going to make to the emergency room because I had symptoms that mimicked a blot clot in my lung. (Thank goodness that was NOT the case.) I had 99% of the chat board laughing at me saying THEY WISHED DEATH ON ME. In those years you would not believe the unbelievably nasty hate-filled posts, Knotes, etc that were directed towards me... You can't begin to know how many times I thought to take my life because of what was going on in my real world, but then to have it echoed online?!?... shit, there were entire message boards on bbing sites on the web that were dedicated to spewing the most vile hatred, you can't begin to imagine. To this day, I refuse to go to other sites mainly because of this reason.

I am very proud and happy to say that all that has changed on elite - that WE truly are head and shoulders ABOVE the rest because WE don't tolerate that sort of bullshit inhumanity here. Disrespect? A situation like this doesn't BEGIN to touch disrespect - it is INHUMANTIY pure and simple.

There are still tiny shreds of it though. It took a minute for our community here on elite to allow ourselves to become infiltrated by these lower forms of life - those who glean pleasure from the suffering of others. And once we let those cockroaches in, they multiplied like wildfire. It took YEARS to get rid of all of them, heck, sadly because they were amongst us, some of their filth rubbed off so it took a long time for us to completely erradicate them and fix our heads as to what is proper and acceptable and what IS NOT.

Having said this I still say that it is NOT *the internet's responisibility* that this unfortunate circumstance took place. That guy was tortured and truth be told regardless of what the site had done, or who reached out he may have taken his life regardless. Often times people that talk about suicide are actually reaching out for help. They don't WANT to die, however, that isn't always the case. That is why ANYTIME someone talks about such things it should be treated as if you accept that person WANTS to go through with it and do whatever you can to reach out or at the very least allow that person to vent. Heck, isn't that what many of us do when we are down/confused/angry?

Don't we all VENT?!?!

This hits home to me in a way that mmost of you are incapable of understanding as I have 4 children that are out of my reach. They are trapped in an abusive home and they really believe that they can never escape. Two of them are being medicated with anti-depressants, psychotropics and other meds INSTEAD of the people who are SUPPOSED to be protecting them saying, "Well hell, if the kids *suddenly became suicidal* maybe they should be removed from THAT home... instead of giving them more and more drugs that they don't need in the first place INCREASING the chance that they migh commit suicide!?!?"

DUH....

I was very upset about this yesterday and began a thread seeking some support. The first two pages or so were a bloodbath - not as bad as it would have been 2+ years ago - true. But I had people PMing me and calling me asking me to delete the thread and to stop posting about because it was clear that there were still too much negativity on elite for me to open my heart like that. But the good news was the thread continued and turned into something VERY positive for me. I was BEGGING for help and support from my community and though it was a tiny bit slow - IT CAME.

I am talking way too damned much but as you can see, I have so many emotions about so many aspects of this story. I want so much for everyone here to better understand (if they haven't already) that most of us are REAL PEOPLE and though we may not all e-like one another we should always TRY to conduct ourselves in a fashion that if someone that is close to us were to observe, they wouldn't shake their heads and cluck their tongues and say, "Damn, I am ashamed at my (son, brother, wife, cousin, best friend, etc ... fill in the blank) 's e-behavior. He/She isn't like that in REAL life."

How bout we make strides daily to be our authentic selves with one another?
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I'm sorry to hear you were treated like that.

The fact that since the summer of 07' I haven't seen this type of behavior speaks volumes about the admins/mods/and perhaps most importantly the members of elite. (Or maybe my selective awareness?..lol, hopefully not.)
 
Cal_21 said:
I'm sorry to hear you were treated like that.

The fact that since the summer of 07' I haven't seen this type of behavior speaks volumes about the admins/mods/and perhaps most importantly the members of elite. (Or maybe my selective awareness?..lol, hopefully not.)
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Not selective awareness... it is has EVERYTHING to do with the bolded portion of your statement.

And though to this day when I am reminded about some of the hate that was wantonly directed towards me over the past several years it still singes a tiny bit. But in a way I am glad it happened to me and not somebody else, as I don't think many others in my situation could have handled it and even grown stronger from it. The poor fellow who ended his life being the starkest example. I mean, what could ANYONE have possibly done to warrant that type of response from ANYONE else?... let alone an internet forum full of e-strangers?

Read my signature my brother... it was a great part of digger's legacy to me. He ALWAYS helped and protected me the best his could when the cockroaches on elite went for my throat. He helped me to see that NONE of us is without *a past* (even if that past is in our own head) but that EVERY ONE OF US HAS A FUTURE.

Sad story for the young man and his family...

The only reason I've not done myself in (yea, I tried but the Old Grump saved me) is that saying... "A permanent solution to a temporary situation." That and the fact that as long as I am living and building a positive life my children will have a chance... if I take myself out of their future PERMANENTLY then they will have none.

I am just glad that elite has made so many POSITIVE CHANGES and rejected this type of poo-flinging monkey mentality (sorry again Puddles LOL) as acceptable behavior before such a tragedy happened here. As long as I am contributing here, I will make it MY BUSINESS to insure that this type of a mentality will ALWAYS BE UNACCEPTABLE.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Not selective awareness... it is has EVERYTHING to do with the bolded portion of your statement.

And though to this day when I am reminded about some of the hate that was wantonly directed towards me over the past several years it still singes a tiny bit. But in a way I am glad it happened to me and not somebody else, as I don't think many others in my situation could have handled it and even grown stronger from it. The poor fellow who ended his life being the starkest example. I mean, what could ANYONE have possibly done to warrant that type of response from ANYONE else?... let alone an internet forum full of e-strangers?

Read my signature my brother... it was a great part of digger's legacy to me. He ALWAYS helped and protected me the best his could when the cockroaches on elite went for my throat. He helped me to see that NONE of us is without *a past* (even if that past is in our own head) but that ALL OF US HAS A FUTURE.

Sad story... the only reason I've not done myself in (yea, I tried but the Old Grump saved me) is that saying... "A permanent solution to a temporary situation." That and the fact that as long as I am living and building a positive life my children will have a chance... if I take myself out of their future PERMANENTLY then they will have none.

I am just glad that elite has made so many POSITIVE CHANGES and rejected this type of poo-flinging monkey mentality (sorry again Puddles LOL) as acceptable behavior before such a tragedy happened here. As long as I am contributing here, I will make it MY BUSINESS to insure that this type of a mentality will ALWAYS BE UNACCEPTABLE.
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This whole thing makes me think about the way I treated healother. I mean, he never seemed suicidal, just had bad luck with girls. I always thought he was an alter, but in the future I'll be less of a douche even if i think the person may be fake.
 
It's not just a lesson to admin, mods, and mentors, but it is a lesson to all. I don't (and hope) nobody ever takes me too seriously (which you don't).

On the same side, if you are seriously down there are quite a few people here who can help. That's why this place is quite better. I have received numerous PM's from people here who are willing to help me when I was down. And I was quite in a down mood. I didn't call them, as I didn't want to put my bullsheot on them. Some days we all get down, some people don't rebound without help. This is the case here. Remember we are all here for a reason. Chat is just a place to hang out in. And the other area's is where the business is.

I have an idea brewing now, so I gonna think on it a bit....

This is sad. To the jackasses who egged it to happen, I hope you one day see that this is such a waste as the guy was probably a decent fellow who was misguided or misunderstood. Being almost been there, I can see things different than some. As you look at it as a cop out, maybe look at the other side of it. You'll be surprised at what you find. No, I am not talking about the final note. Look at his whole life..... somewhere something went drastically wrong.
 
Very sad, the whole situation, but seriously, you can only cry wolf so many times before no one takes you seriously. I feel bad for his parents. If they find joose in the blood tox report we are all in for a rough ride, not just the bb.com folks. Regardless of their irrational and juvenille behavior, this affects all of us.

Shame :(
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Because of your join date that is a legitimate sentiment. Were your joind date before 06 but after 02 then I would say that you must have spent more of your time on every other board EXCEPT chat here on elite. Those were some really REALLY dark times for elitefitness. Heck, I posted up about a trip I was finally going to make to the emergency room because I had symptoms that mimicked a blot clot in my lung. (Thank goodness that was NOT the case.) I had 99% of the chat board laughing at me saying THEY WISHED DEATH ON ME. In those years you would not believe the unbelievably nasty hate-filled posts, Knotes, etc that were directed towards me... You can't begin to know how many times I thought to take my life because of what was going on in my real world, but then to have it echoed online?!?... shit, there were entire message boards on bbing sites on the web that were dedicated to spewing the most vile hatred, you can't begin to imagine. To this day, I refuse to go to other sites mainly because of this reason.

I am very proud and happy to say that all that has changed on elite - that WE truly are head and shoulders ABOVE the rest because WE don't tolerate that sort of bullshit inhumanity here. Disrespect? A situation like this doesn't BEGIN to touch disrespect - it is INHUMANTIY pure and simple.

There are still tiny shreds of it though. It took a minute for our community here on elite to allow ourselves to become infiltrated by these lower forms of life - those who glean pleasure from the suffering of others. And once we let those cockroaches in, they multiplied like wildfire. It took YEARS to get rid of all of them, heck, sadly because they were amongst us, some of their filth rubbed off so it took a long time for us to completely erradicate them and fix our heads as to what is proper and acceptable and what IS NOT.

Having said this I still say that it is NOT *the internet's responisibility* that this unfortunate circumstance took place. That guy was tortured and truth be told regardless of what the site had done, or who reached out he may have taken his life regardless. Often times people that talk about suicide are actually reaching out for help. They don't WANT to die, however, that isn't always the case. That is why ANYTIME someone talks about such things it should be treated as if you accept that person WANTS to go through with it and do whatever you can to reach out or at the very least allow that person to vent. Heck, isn't that what many of us do when we are down/confused/angry?

Don't we all VENT?!?!

This hits home to me in a way that mmost of you are incapable of understanding as I have 4 children that are out of my reach. They are trapped in an abusive home and they really believe that they can never escape. Two of them are being medicated with anti-depressants, psychotropics and other meds INSTEAD of the people who are SUPPOSED to be protecting them saying, "Well hell, if the kids *suddenly became suicidal* maybe they should be removed from THAT home... instead of giving them more and more drugs that they don't need in the first place INCREASING the chance that they migh commit suicide!?!?"

DUH....

I was very upset about this yesterday and began a thread seeking some support. The first two pages or so were a bloodbath - not as bad as it would have been 2+ years ago - true. But I had people PMing me and calling me asking me to delete the thread and to stop posting about because it was clear that there were still too much negativity on elite for me to open my heart like that. But the good news was the thread continued and turned into something VERY positive for me. I was BEGGING for help and support from my community and though it was a tiny bit slow - IT CAME.

I am talking way too damned much but as you can see, I have so many emotions about so many aspects of this story. I want so much for everyone here to better understand (if they haven't already) that most of us are REAL PEOPLE and though we may not all e-like one another we should always TRY to conduct ourselves in a fashion that if someone that is close to us were to observe, they wouldn't shake their heads and cluck their tongues and say, "Damn, I am ashamed at my (son, brother, wife, cousin, best friend, etc ... fill in the blank) 's e-behavior. He/She isn't like that in REAL life."

How bout we make strides daily to be our authentic selves with one another?
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Cal_21 said:
I'm sorry to hear you were treated like that.
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You read all that?
 
Has anyone asked what the bad things he did were yet?
 
Amazes me why so many teens - who have far less problems than average joes - and their whole lfie ahead of them - kill themselves. Maybe their brains are not mature enough to handle life's problems as well as fully grown adults. The first solution though is get them OFF PERSONALITY DRUGS.

Parents who do this with depressed teens should be put in jail. This is what 'quick fixes' get ya. Either dead teen, or dead teen leaving 20 dead at his local high school. There's no substitute for personal intervention and mentoring. Drugs did not help this kid, if not make it worse.

That said - I do not care one bit for people who kill themselves. My opinion on them is too harsh to post on ef.

r
 
Razorguns said:
Amazes me why so many teens - who have far less problems than average joes - and their whole lfie ahead of them - kill themselves. Maybe their brains are not mature enough to handle life's problems as well as fully grown adults. The first solution though is get them OFF PERSONALITY DRUGS.

Parents who do this with depressed teens should be put in jail. This is what 'quick fixes' get ya. Either dead teen, or dead teen leaving 20 dead at his local high school. There's no substitute for personal intervention and mentoring. Drugs did not help this kid, if not make it worse.

That said - I do not care one bit for people who kill themselves. My opinion on them is too harsh to post on ef.

r
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the kid was not mentally stable .. from reading his past post history u can tell ..if someone talks about suicide over and over .. weather he does it or not, it a huge SIGN .. im sorry if i offend anyone but the MODDING done on that board with this kid is a FUCKING DISGRACE ..
 
Razorguns said:
Amazes me why so many teens - who have far less problems than average joes - and their whole lfie ahead of them - kill themselves. Maybe their brains are not mature enough to handle life's problems as well as fully grown adults. The first solution though is get them OFF PERSONALITY DRUGS.

Parents who do this with depressed teens should be put in jail. This is what 'quick fixes' get ya. Either dead teen, or dead teen leaving 20 dead at his local high school. There's no substitute for personal intervention and mentoring. Drugs did not help this kid, if not make it worse.

That said - I do not care one bit for people who kill themselves. My opinion on them is too harsh to post on ef.

r
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I agree.

Are we mourning this guy's method? Or that he took his life. People die all the time.

A lot of people struggle with inner daemons, most win the battle, the weak ones lose and do stupid things.
 
Razorguns said:
Amazes me why so many teens - who have far less problems than average joes - and their whole lfie ahead of them - kill themselves. Maybe their brains are not mature enough to handle life's problems as well as fully grown adults. The first solution though is get them OFF PERSONALITY DRUGS.

Parents who do this with depressed teens should be put in jail. This is what 'quick fixes' get ya. Either dead teen, or dead teen leaving 20 dead at his local high school. There's no substitute for personal intervention and mentoring. Drugs did not help this kid, if not make it worse.

That said - I do not care one bit for people who kill themselves. My opinion on them is too harsh to post on ef.

r
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Obviously you missed my thread the other day about what I recently discovered my ex is doing to at least (I'm waiting for verification from a doc to see if he is doing it to TWO) one of my girls because of receipts he submitted to me hoping to get some money. That ain't "he said/she said" bullshit allegations is it? That's just all of the mind-altering drugs that he is having docs give to my barely 15 year old daughter - enough to bring an elephant to its knees just so she will give him "less trouble" and stop telling everyone what an asshole he is.

That don't make me mother of the year in the least. But I am thinkin that don't exactly make him a concerned and caring father, by your defintion. Not that I need you to define reality for me.

Just sayin is all.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Because of your join date that is a legitimate sentiment. Were your joind date before 06 but after 02 then I would say that you must have spent more of your time on every other board EXCEPT chat here on elite. Those were some really REALLY dark times for elitefitness. Heck, I posted up about a trip I was finally going to make to the emergency room because I had symptoms that mimicked a blot clot in my lung. (Thank goodness that was NOT the case.) I had 99% of the chat board laughing at me saying THEY WISHED DEATH ON ME. In those years you would not believe the unbelievably nasty hate-filled posts, Knotes, etc that were directed towards me...
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The difference isn't so much a change in Elite, but a change in you. Sorry, no offense, but your online persona really was totally insufferable then. You've improved dramatically. :)
 
Mr. dB said:
The difference isn't so much a change in Elite, but a change in you. Sorry, no offense, but your online persona really was totally insufferable then. You've improved dramatically. :)
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Not offended in the least. So I hope that you, in turn won't take offense when I tell you that your assessment is only partially correct. The site HAS changed A LOT.

However,

It was a combination of both. Hard to be so congenial when every single time you post, regardless of the content, you're called a "dirty crazy whore that should die before her children ever saw her again.".... dontchathink?

Hell there were peeps (and I know you know this) that would try to be "my pretend e-friends" on elite while talking THE MOST VICIOUS SMACK about me on all the elitefitnesswannabe sites just so they could "gain my confidence" and hope that I would divulge some sort of non-existant seemly details about my personal life so they could throw it back at me out in public.

FAIL...

'cause those details just didn't exist.

Then funny, I *got married* to what *seems to be a notsobad dude* and *all of the sudden* I gained somekinda validity. (I found this to be most humorous.)

Come on DB... you posted some REALLY REALLY hurtful shit to my e-face on elite back in the day. Tell me honestly that the stuff you posted behind my e-back wasn't 100 times worse?

Look, if I had believed only A TENTH of the vile hatred that was spewed about me all over the web, I woulda hated me too. But anyone who has HALF a functioning brain can see that "somethin just ain't right" in the world. Doesn't exhonerate me by a longshot. But surely it is causing pause to those that haven't lived through similar situations.
 
Mr. dB said:
The difference isn't so much a change in Elite, but a change in you. Sorry, no offense, but your online persona really was totally insufferable then. You've improved dramatically. :)
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BIKINIMOM said:
Not offended in the least. So I hope that you, in turn won't take offense when I tell you that your assessment is only partially correct. The site HAS changed A LOT.

However,

It was a combination of both. Hard to be so congenial when every single time you post, regardless of the content, you're called a "dirty crazy whore that should die before her children ever saw her again.".... dontchathink?

Hell there were peeps (and I know you know this) that would try to be "my pretend e-friends" on elite while talking THE MOST VICIOUS SMACK about me on all the elitefitnesswannabe sites just so they could "gain my confidence" and hope that I would divulge some sort of non-existant seemly details about my personal life so they could throw it back at me out in public.

FAIL...

'cause those details just didn't exist.

Then funny, I *got married* to what *seems to be a notsobad dude* and *all of the sudden* I gained somekinda validity. (I found this to be most humorous.)

Come on DB... you posted some REALLY REALLY hurtful shit to my e-face on elite back in the day. Tell me honestly that the stuff you posted behind my e-back wasn't 100 times worse?

Look, if I had believed only A TENTH of the vile hatred that was spewed about me all over the web, I woulda hated me too. But anyone who has HALF a functioning brain can see that "somethin just ain't right" in the world. Doesn't exhonerate me by a longshot. But surely it is causing pause to those that haven't lived through similar situations.
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Links to said carnage!

:Popcorn:
 
snacky cake said:
Too much to link to. Suffice it to say that some people got their jollies being abusive to BM over the internet. Seems it made them feel like they had big e-balls...lol.
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Ms snackycakes though you saw some nasty stuff the WORST was pretty much before your time.

Here is something nice for ya'll:

Go to Urban Dictionary, November 12: echo effect

type in BIKINIMOM and see what comes up. Accidentally my Old Grump came across that "definition" posted by an long-time ex-elite ASSHAT. We have been trying to get that situation rectified for weeks.
 
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