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jackets2009

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Ok... So i previously got advice on running a Winstrol oral pill only cycle and still am not sure. I haven't done a cycle before so this is my first one. However, I've been reading a ton of posts and looking up information on ANAVAR pills which are supposed to be an upgraded version of winstrol with less side effects. I've been hearing mostly positive experiences as opposed to negative so i'm gaining more interest.

Age: 22
Height: 5'11
Weight 190
bf: around 14%-ish

**My goal isn't to increase size and massive gains, I'm looking to get cut and decrease body fat** Any size increase or gains would just be a positive...
*I've done the dieting and weight training and have hit the wall to where my body is and where I want it to be so this is just that extra push...

What are your thoughts on running a first cycle with Anavar oral tablets only for 6 weeks at 40mg/day and possible increase to 50 after 3 or 4 weeks?
Also, Should I split up the dosage during the day, say 20mg and 20mg or all 40 mg at once?
(Would prefer to hear from people who have done this type of cycle or know someone that has) But all comments are welcome
 
everyones gonna tell you that your too young. if you cant drop bf without steroids, then theres no way you can do it with them. go to the diet forum and they will help you get it in check! then in a few years, if you wanna bulk, then do steroids
 
Heath82 said:
everyones gonna tell you that your too young. if you cant drop bf without steroids, then theres no way you can do it with them. go to the diet forum and they will help you get it in check! then in a few years, if you wanna bulk, then do steroids
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So there's an age on steroids now? wow haven't heard that.... what is the exact starting age?
 
jackets2009 said:
So there's an age on steroids now? wow haven't heard that.... what is the exact starting age?
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Well, you still have very high levels of natural hormones. You can gain much easier that way.

Forum rules are that no one under 21 will be given advice. You are 22, so we can advise you if that's what you want. But it is better advised to wait a few years and train hard and eat right. You can still make great gains natty right now.


But, if you choose to, anavar @ 60mg ED for 8 weeks will set you right.
 
I dont think hes too young...its how long he has trained,diet etc..anavar only is such a good cycle imo
 
Well let me tell you....

My diet is great IMO very high protein low carbs, and relatively low fat and caloric intake. I've tried prohormones and thermogenics which were shit results.

Ive been an athlete all my life, actually just finished my college career in the spring so I don't think that's a question. I have built a great base with my body and am looking for that extra result I can't seem to get.

So as far as age goes I think that is beyond ridiculous and its people like that who's opinion I don't value. I'm looking for advice of what to do, not when to do it. Thanks
 
jackets2009 said:
Well let me tell you....

My diet is great IMO very high protein low carbs, and relatively low fat and caloric intake. I've tried prohormones and thermogenics which were shit results.

Ive been an athlete all my life, actually just finished my college career in the spring so I don't think that's a question. I have built a great base with my body and am looking for that extra result I can't seem to get.

So as far as age goes I think that is beyond ridiculous and its people like that who's opinion I don't value. I'm looking for advice of what to do, not when to do it. Thanks
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Hey dude i said it was a good idea...i just asked what your weight was lol
 
jackets2009 said:
Well let me tell you....

My diet is great IMO very high protein low carbs, and relatively low fat and caloric intake. I've tried prohormones and thermogenics which were shit results.

Ive been an athlete all my life, actually just finished my college career in the spring so I don't think that's a question. I have built a great base with my body and am looking for that extra result I can't seem to get.

So as far as age goes I think that is beyond ridiculous and its people like that who's opinion I don't value. I'm looking for advice of what to do, not when to do it. Thanks
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Like I said, it is better advised to wait a couple years, but you can make your own choice.

60mg ED for 8 weeks will kick your ass. Good stuff!
 
I know, part of that wasn't pertaining to you. I think I've read some of your comments on ofer posts about anabas only being a good cycle. Do you think I should start off at a lower dose and build up to 60mg? Also would 6 weeks be enough?
 
jackets2009 said:
I know, part of that wasn't pertaining to you. I think I've read some of your comments on ofer posts about anabas only being a good cycle. Do you think I should start off at a lower dose and build up to 60mg? Also would 6 weeks be enough?
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depends on your weight bro...if you are around 200lbs i would start off with 60mg/ed
 
jackets2009 said:
I know, part of that wasn't pertaining to you. I think I've read some of your comments on ofer posts about anabas only being a good cycle. Do you think I should start off at a lower dose and build up to 60mg? Also would 6 weeks be enough?
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8 weeks bro

layinback would come in here and give an alternative 40mgs ED for 10 weeks or something like that, which is also a good idea. Longer time on gives the greatest ability to sustain results, but in the case of anavar, you are going to keep what you get.

anavr is good to run for longer.

shit, AAP ran winny for like 9 months straight or something. is AAP dead or have liver issues? no. So, 8-10 weeks on anavar won't be bad at all, as anavr is mild on the liver. It will mess with your cholesterol though, so be eating plenty of healthy fats to help maintain that.

The reason i discourage dbol or anadrol for such a long time is the high blood pressure issues coming from bloat and excessive RBC production which is unhealthy.
 
jackets2009 said:
Well let me tell you....

My diet is great IMO very high protein low carbs, and relatively low fat and caloric intake. I've tried prohormones and thermogenics which were shit results.

Ive been an athlete all my life, actually just finished my college career in the spring so I don't think that's a question. I have built a great base with my body and am looking for that extra result I can't seem to get.

So as far as age goes I think that is beyond ridiculous and its people like that who's opinion I don't value. I'm looking for advice of what to do, not when to do it. Thanks
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last i read, your first post said all comments welcome... that means good and bad. you havent reached your natural limit and need to break through, all you wanna do is drop bf and get "cut". imo steroids are to bulk, not cut. at the most you should use them to hold on to muscle mass while you diet down. key word being diet.
 
If you read the inserts that come with anavar - or wisntrol - you will see the dosing schedule for patients - HIV and even young adults are all beyond the 6 week mark.
 
Oh, and I just got done running some var. I can tell you from experience that no type of gear decreases bodyfat. (Even Var.) It's all in the diet.

In fact, var only for weight loss might even be counter-intuitive. Lots of guys get back pumps on var and other orals. This would interfere with the cardio required to burn the fat.
 
AAP said:
If you read the inserts that come with anavar - or wisntrol - you will see the dosing schedule for patients - HIV and even young adults are all beyond the 6 week mark.
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Agree. However, it does take it's toll. My cholesterol went from "admirable" to "fucked" in only 6 weeks. Drove my LDL up and my HDL was actually zero.
 
centy said:
Agree. However, it does take it's toll. My cholesterol went from "admirable" to "fucked" in only 6 weeks. Drove my LDL up and my HDL was actually zero.
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taking lots of EFA's and omega-3s help maintain a better lipid profile. If you had "0" as an hdl level you weren't getting those enough, and was getting saturated and trans fats way too much.
 
Nah - my diet was exemplary. Plenty (and i mean fkin plenty) of healthy fats, nuts, fish, flax, CLA et al. Very very low in saturated fats.

Things got better after the cycle though.
 
If your getting legit var then 40mg will giv you results. 2 10X100 bottles = a nice 7 weeker. Run pct, diet, train, and youll come away with some permanent size and strength gains.
 
Roc86 said:
If your getting legit var then 40mg will giv you results. 2 10X100 bottles = a nice 7 weeker. Run pct, diet, train, and youll come away with some permanent size and strength gains.
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if it is truly properly dosed, then yes 40 mg is plenty. problem is, most ug var is not properly dosed.
 
I'VEbeen looking into this for about a year now and i've heard all kinds of opinions from all kinds of experts and the most common results i've been getting is that any longer than 6 weeks is a waste, dosages vary between 40mg-day and 60mg-day, take split dosages 8 hours apart(aparrantley 'var keeps you awake all night if taken late) up the creatine dosages, use NAC for liver prot just in case, use 10mg nolva daily for 14days with primordail performances test recovery stack for PCT. most people say stack with test or pp dermacrine.

i'm no expert, i'm just waiting on my pct to arrive before i start this myself as a first cycle.
 
Also, I was wondering what you guys thought about starting at 30mg for week 1, the 40mg for the next couple of weeks (2-4), then 50 for the last 1 or 2?
Let me know what you think
 
jackets2009 said:
Also, I was wondering what you guys thought about starting at 30mg for week 1, the 40mg for the next couple of weeks (2-4), then 50 for the last 1 or 2?
Let me know what you think
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staggering the dose like that is pointless. choose a dose, 40-60mg, and run that daily for 8-10 weeks.
 
Wootooom said:
why the hell would anyone only 30mg/ed of Var???? what a waste...unless its legit.
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Just have heard from other people who have done it that it can depend on what kind you get. Some obviously can be more potent than others. One guy told me he got shredded and never passed 40mg. Guess we'll see.... IF I were to do a cycle you're right I probably would do about 50mg/day

Is it better to spread out the dosages through the day or all at once?
 
jackets2009 said:
Just have heard from other people who have done it that it can depend on what kind you get. Some obviously can be more potent than others. One guy told me he got shredded and never passed 40mg. Guess we'll see.... IF I were to do a cycle you're right I probably would do about 50mg/day

Is it better to spread out the dosages through the day or all at once?
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take it twice a day.
 
^take it 3 times a day. This is how medical practioners have theiur patients take it. Vars half life = 8 hours, therefore 3 dosages a day = steady plasma levels.

This allows your body to avoid any major fluctuations and to be in constant anabolism.
 
dabuffguy said:
8 weeks bro

layinback would come in here and give an alternative 40mgs ED for 10 weeks or something like that, which is also a good idea. Longer time on gives the greatest ability to sustain results, but in the case of anavar, you are going to keep what you get.

anavr is good to run for longer.

shit, AAP ran winny for like 9 months straight or something. is AAP dead or have liver issues? no. So, 8-10 weeks on anavar won't be bad at all, as anavr is mild on the liver. It will mess with your cholesterol though, so be eating plenty of healthy fats to help maintain that.

The reason i discourage dbol or anadrol for such a long time is the high blood pressure issues coming from bloat and excessive RBC production which is unhealthy.
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lol you are right!!! anavar should be ran for as long as possible but you have
to do it right with proper ancillaries e.g. QUALITY flax or fish oils. if it is
pharmaceutical, 30 or 40 mg's will be plenty lol!!! ( i seriously doubt you
could run 60 - 80 mg's of pharm ox for long.........bloating, gas, intolerable
pumps and cholesterol ) 60-80 UG is probably equivalent to 20 - 30 real
stuff. at 40 mg's of real ox, you'll put on significant lean mass in 12 weeks.
mg per mg it's as good as primo and it burns visceral fat like trenbolone.
those that belittle it, have never done the real thing.
 
Roc86 said:
^take it 3 times a day. This is how medical practioners have theiur patients take it. Vars half life = 8 hours, therefore 3 dosages a day = steady plasma levels.

This allows your body to avoid any major fluctuations and to be in constant anabolism.
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no sir!! dabuffguy is right, twice a day. oxandrolone has an 10.5 hr half life and
should be given BID. i am scripted and this is my docs instructions.

it is next to impossible to reach steady state plasma levels with oral anabolics.
this is not necessarily the goal of oxandrolone therapy or any AAS therapy.
 
GdupM6 said:
ok so while taking anavar you need to have flax, fish oils, what else?
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creatine, glutamine and NAC.

NAC 1800 mg's in 2 or 3 divided dose

creatine with 40 gm's dextrose post training only

L glutamine 10 gm's post training and evening.

lots of quality protein.

if you are looking to lean up, cut carbs, eat more fish and nuts and up protein.
 
Roc86 said:
^thanks LB, ive been misinformed - good to know dude
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bro i am constantly learning myself. i sort of specialize in anavar lol.

you can google prescribing info oxandrin or oxandrolone and you'll
have the same info that docs get. same for anadrol and testosterone.
all these drugs are scripted in the U.S. and the prescribing info is
much different than what you typically hear on the boards. there's
also a lot of double blind studies with these drugs that are readily
available on the net. i love EF but i also cross reference everything
with scientific data.
 
toolz93 said:
so 69mg a day using 20mg pills, would i split dosage 40,20 or is that a good time to do three dosages a day?
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40 - 20 is fine and do the whole 60 at once on training days, 2 hours prior to
session. like dbol, var reaches peak plasma levels in a couple hours.
 
Thanks! I feel like I'm getting the best info as far as usage here than anywhere else... However its a tricky think for me to get a hold of...
 
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