First cycle

[Deluxz]

I don’t want to go test only. I want really really good gains for my cycle.
Please give recommendations this is my first cycle.

Primo + Anadrol + Test
Length 12-14 Weeks

• Test E or Test C 400mg (pinned 2x)
• Primobolan E 500mg (pinned 2x)
• Anadrol 50mg a day 6 weeks
• Aromasin 12.5mg EOD (strictly on hand primo can lower estrogen)
• 1200mg NAC/day (1-6 weeks)
• 500mg TUDCA/day (1-6 weeks)
• Milk Thistle 400mg/day (1-6 weeks)
• Taurine 3g a day for cramps
• P5p if needed for prolactin levels from anadrol. 200mg/day
• 1000 mg fish oil, 1000mg Citrus Bergamot, 3000mg of omega-3, 1000 mg Berberine day to support the lipids. Rosuvastatin 10mg a day max 20mg depending on blood work. Or entirely taken off depending on bloodwork. Ezetimibe also helps lower cholesterol 5-10mg/day. Cardarine if needed. 20mg/day
• 200 mg CoQ10 & 2000 mg magnesium everyday to support the heart
• If BP levels rise. Telmisartan 40mg/day. Nebivolol 2.5-5mg/day supports bp levels and but more important it’s better for heart rate. Use when you start having a higher heart rate as well.
• Ketoconazole shampoo used at least 3x a week and 0.9% KX-826 used everyday
• Raloxifene will be on hand when noticing gyno symptoms

And after cycle is complete I’ll cruise on test
Please tell me your thoughts

 

[ChewedSleek]

I don’t want to go test only. I want really really good gains for my cycle.
Please give recommendations this is my first cycle.

Primo + Anadrol + Test
Length 12-14 Weeks

• Test E or Test C 400mg (pinned 2x)
• Primobolan E 500mg (pinned 2x)
• Anadrol 50mg a day 6 weeks
• Aromasin 12.5mg EOD (strictly on hand primo can lower estrogen)
• 1200mg NAC/day (1-6 weeks)
• 500mg TUDCA/day (1-6 weeks)
• Milk Thistle 400mg/day (1-6 weeks)
• Taurine 3g a day for cramps
• P5p if needed for prolactin levels from anadrol. 200mg/day
• 1000 mg fish oil, 1000mg Citrus Bergamot, 3000mg of omega-3, 1000 mg Berberine day to support the lipids. Rosuvastatin 10mg a day max 20mg depending on blood work. Or entirely taken off depending on bloodwork. Ezetimibe also helps lower cholesterol 5-10mg/day. Cardarine if needed. 20mg/day
• 200 mg CoQ10 & 2000 mg magnesium everyday to support the heart
• If BP levels rise. Telmisartan 40mg/day. Nebivolol 2.5-5mg/day supports bp levels and but more important it’s better for heart rate. Use when you start having a higher heart rate as well.
• Ketoconazole shampoo used at least 3x a week and 0.9% KX-826 used everyday
• Raloxifene will be on hand when noticing gyno symptoms

And after cycle is complete I’ll cruise on test
Please tell me your thoughts

If this is your first cycle, you have no idea how your body is going to react.
300mg Testosterone to gauge your body’s reaction.

You’ve also failed to mention your training, what your macros are, how consistent you are with either variable, etc.

 

[MJL95]

Agree with @ChewedSleek , age , weight, bf % ? 400mg seems like a heavy whack first up plus your going to be cruising / trt dose after by the looks of it so your way more likely to keep the gains made during the cycle. Could easy do 300mg then drop to 150-180mg cruise.

But get a log up with heaps of detail & the vets will guide you the best

 

[Deluxz]

Agree with @ChewedSleek , age , weight, bf % ? 400mg seems like a heavy whack first up plus your going to be cruising / trt dose after by the looks of it so your way more likely to keep the gains made during the cycle. Could easy do 300mg then drop to 150-180mg cruise.

But get a log up with heaps of detail & the vets will guide you the best

Thanks for the advice. 18 years old have been training for 2 years consistently with a 5-6 day a week workout schedule.I don’t know my exact bf prob like 18% bf I’m not exactly lean. 165 lbs. But I’m still going to bulk on this cycle for mass regardless if I’m not perfectly lean. Then cut in future. I’ll worry about that later my main concern right now is getting bigger. Also pct when it comes up which won’t be after this cycle but eventually when I do it take 10 day break. Then hcg 500iu every other day for 2 weeks. Wait 3 days. Then clomid 50 mg a day for 2 weeks . Then 2 weeks of 25mg a day.

 

[GoldenGains96]

Your supplement stack is okay although I would not automatically run all of those ancilleries. You need to use your first cycle to understand your response and tolerance to test ONLY and your rate of aromatization. Run test only for 6 weeks then get bloodwork to confirm this. This is critical to understand so you know how to design future stacks when you introduce other compounds to manage your e2 appropriately. Skipping this step to attempt faster gains is a classic beginner mistake that means you're just playing guessing games - not smart. Don't treat a marathon like a sprint. Muscle growth is a slow process that takes time even on PED's. Be patient and do it the right way is my advice. There's plenty of time to experiment with other compounds but your first cycle is not it.

 

[Viper Labs]

Seems like you have done a reasonable amount of research when it comes to the supporting health supplements.

However - first cycle should always be test only. Why ? Because you want to see how the body responds. How much you aromatize, what blood panel looks like before cycle. Again say 6 weeks in and then adjustments are made accordingly.

If you throw the entire kitchen sink at it, then you're likely going to run into issues and have zero idea what's causing it.

Age ?
Height ?
Weight ?
Training experience ?
Diet ?
Activity levels in general ?

End of the day you will do what you want mate. But please try take constructive opinions from those of us who have made the mistake of poor first cycle choice lol.

We are always happy to chat more in depth if you wish to have private conversations

Reach out via DM or threema: WNUY9656

- Viper

 

[ChewedSleek]

Seems like you have done a reasonable amount of research when it comes to the supporting health supplements.

However - first cycle should always be test only. Why ? Because you want to see how the body responds. How much you aromatize, what blood panel looks like before cycle. Again say 6 weeks in and then adjustments are made accordingly.

If you throw the entire kitchen sink at it, then you're likely going to run into issues and have zero idea what's causing it.

Age ?
Height ?
Weight ?
Training experience ?
Diet ?
Activity levels in general ?

End of the day you will do what you want mate. But please try take constructive opinions from those of us who have made the mistake of poor first cycle choice lol.

We are always happy to chat more in depth if you wish to have private conversations

Reach out via DM or threema: WNUY9656

- Viper

@Viper Labs comes in swinging - showing exactly why he’s one of the best

 

[Deluxz]

Agree with @ChewedSleek , age , weight, bf % ? 400mg seems like a heavy whack first up plus your going to be cruising / trt dose after by the looks of it so your way more likely to keep the gains made during the cycle. Could easy do 300mg then drop to 150-180mg cruise.

But get a log up with heaps of detail & the vets will guide you the

If this is your first cycle, you have no idea how your body is going to react.
300mg Testosterone to gauge your body’s reaction.

You’ve also failed to mention your training, what your macros are, how consistent you are with either variable, etc.

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Hi sorry for late response my other message says it needs approval from moderator for some reason and never went through . I’m 18 years old have been training for 2 years consistently with a 5-6 day a week workout schedule.I don’t know my exact bf prob like 18% bf I’m not exactly lean. 165 lbs. But I’m still going to bulk on this cycle for mass regardless if I’m not perfectly lean. Then cut in future. I’ll worry about that later my main concern right now is getting bigger. Also pct when it comes up which won’t be after this cycle but eventually when I do it take 10 day break. Then hcg 500iu every other day for 2 weeks. Wait 3 days. Then clomid 50 mg a day for 2 weeks . Then 2 weeks of 25mg a day.

 

[Deluxz]

@Viper Labs comes in swinging - showing exactly why he’s one of the best

hi my messages in response keep saying they need approval from moderator. i can’t get it to send for some reason.

 

[Viper Labs]

hi my messages in response keep saying they need approval from moderator. i can’t get it to send for some reason.

This is due to being new member. The moderators need to approve your comments for whatever reason. Be patient mate and it'll be approved