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@Tomandjerry damn brother looking absolutely killer. Nice update also!
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@Tomandjerry Looking great bro! Very lean!
Body Stats
• Weight: 214lb=97kg
• Height: 6’3 = 190cm
• Changes from last week: Increased calories
Calories & Macros:
• Training Day calorie target: 3300 kcal/day
• Macros: 450 carbs, 55g fat, 250g protein
• Bumped calories up, was in too big of a deficit and training started to lag. Ate 3300 cals yesterday vs the previous 2400 and had the best Pull day in a while.
Notes:
• Physique already looks better and the energy boost has been great. Was definitely beginning to look and feel flat
Training Split:
• Push A
• Pull A
• Lower A
• Delts & Arms
• Push B
• Pull B & Posterior Chain
• Rest (as needed)
Training notes:
• Have had a knot in the middle of my back the last 2 days that is an absolute pain in the ass and have been digging it into any surface I can to get it out. Hopefully gone by tomorrow
• Injected L-carnitine into my quad today, horrible idea. Quad was wicked tight and I had to lay down for 15min til the pain subsided enough to go to the gym. Still tight
Current Cycle:
• Test Cypionate: 350mg/week (100mg every other day)
• HCG: 250IU EOD
• Reta: 2mg/week (dropped from 3mg due to cal increase)
• HGH: 2IU before bed (6x/week)
• Glow: 2mg/400mcg/400mcg
Cycle notes:
• No major side effects to report
• Waiting on EQ and Anavar to arrive
Health Supplements:
• Vitamin K2 + D3
• DIM 300mg
• Multi vitamin
• Fish Oil 2400mg
• Zinc Picolinate 30mg
• TUDCA 250mg
• NAC 600mg
• Calcium D-Glucarate 1000mg
• Psyllium Husk 3g
• Taurine 2g
• Creatine 10g
• Digestive Enzymes
Updates:
• Sleep has been horrible the last 2 nights, haven’t seem to be able to stay asleep. Doesn’t help that I stayed up way too late and body naturally wakes up hella early every morning
Recovery & Lifestyle
Sleep:
• Averaging 5.5h/night last 2 days
Personal / life notes:
• No updates, weekend home finally to dial in training and conditioning
• Weight: 214lb=97kg
• Height: 6’3 = 190cm
• Changes from last week: Increased calories
Calories & Macros:
• Training Day calorie target: 3300 kcal/day
• Macros: 450 carbs, 55g fat, 250g protein
• Bumped calories up, was in too big of a deficit and training started to lag. Ate 3300 cals yesterday vs the previous 2400 and had the best Pull day in a while.
Notes:
• Physique already looks better and the energy boost has been great. Was definitely beginning to look and feel flat
Training Split:
• Push A
• Pull A
• Lower A
• Delts & Arms
• Push B
• Pull B & Posterior Chain
• Rest (as needed)
Training notes:
• Have had a knot in the middle of my back the last 2 days that is an absolute pain in the ass and have been digging it into any surface I can to get it out. Hopefully gone by tomorrow
• Injected L-carnitine into my quad today, horrible idea. Quad was wicked tight and I had to lay down for 15min til the pain subsided enough to go to the gym. Still tight
Current Cycle:
• Test Cypionate: 350mg/week (100mg every other day)
• HCG: 250IU EOD
• Reta: 2mg/week (dropped from 3mg due to cal increase)
• HGH: 2IU before bed (6x/week)
• Glow: 2mg/400mcg/400mcg
Cycle notes:
• No major side effects to report
• Waiting on EQ and Anavar to arrive
Health Supplements:
• Vitamin K2 + D3
• DIM 300mg
• Multi vitamin
• Fish Oil 2400mg
• Zinc Picolinate 30mg
• TUDCA 250mg
• NAC 600mg
• Calcium D-Glucarate 1000mg
• Psyllium Husk 3g
• Taurine 2g
• Creatine 10g
• Digestive Enzymes
Updates:
• Sleep has been horrible the last 2 nights, haven’t seem to be able to stay asleep. Doesn’t help that I stayed up way too late and body naturally wakes up hella early every morning
Recovery & Lifestyle
Sleep:
• Averaging 5.5h/night last 2 days
Personal / life notes:
• No updates, weekend home finally to dial in training and conditioning
Thank you my man
Thanks brother! Hopefully just getting started, looking forward to how far I take it
Especially pizza or salty or garlicky foods for me! It dries my mouth out all night
Looking good mate
I've actually borrowed this split!
This is the first thing that I noticed how well planned out everything is.
This is how I've adapted it for my own training program.
I'm loving it!
Thanks @Tomandjerry bro
Training Split:
Day
1 Push A Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
2 Pull Upper Back, Biceps, Abs
3 Lower A
4 Arms
5 Chest, Shoulders
6 Pull B Lats, Forearms
7 Hamstrings, Calves, Abs
Im going to screen shoot it and give it a go myselfI've actually borrowed this split!
This is the first thing that I noticed how well planned out everything is.
This is how I've adapted it for my own training program.
I'm loving it!
Thanks @Tomandjerry bro
Training Split:
Day
1 Push A Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
2 Pull Upper Back, Biceps, Abs
3 Lower A
4 Arms
5 Chest, Shoulders
6 Pull B Lats, Forearms
7 Hamstrings, Calves, Abs
Body Stats
• Weight: 215 lbs (97.5 kg)
• Height: 6’3 (190 cm)
Nutrition:
Training Days: ~3300 cals
Macros: 450c / 250p / 55f
Notes:
• Knot in my back is still there and is killing the workout. Both in a physical and mental aspect. Mentally because I can feel it in the middle of sets and throws off my focus/mind muscle connection.
Training Split:
• Push A
• Pull A
• Lower A
• Delts & Arms
• Push B
• Pull B & Posterior Chain
• Rest (more as needed)
Training notes:
• Saturday was Pull B & posterior which was a great lat and hamstring workout but that knot was aggravating on rows and reverse flys. Started workout with 1 set of pull ups to mechanical failure and going to start working those back in, lats felt more fired on that 1 set than most lat workouts as of recent.
• Took yesterday off and did a deep tissue massage hoping to help knot. Yet it was just as bad today during a Push workout. Used hella icy hot and honestly was too much as it would have a burning sensation during heavy pressing movements when my shoulders blades were tucked together and pressed against the bench, plus the knot pinch feeling every rep.
• Nonetheless still full throttle and just have to flip that switch for 30 seconds during working sets.
Current Cycle:
• Test Cypionate: 350mg/week (100mg every other day)
• HCG: 250IU EOD
• Reta: 2mg/week
• HGH: 2IU before bed (6x/week)
• Glow: 2mg/400mcg/400mcg
Cycle notes:
• No major side effects to report
• EQ & Anavar arrive Thursday according to usps (us postal is just as reliable as aus postal it sounds like lol)
• Was going to start EQ and Anavar off rip, but leaning towards just EQ for a couple weeks to make sure no crazy sides from EQ so that way I’m not adding 2 new compounds at the same time and having to flip a coin on which one is causing the sides
Health Supplements:
• Vitamin K2 + D3
• DIM 300mg
• Multivitamin
• Fish Oil 6g
• Zinc Picolinate 30mg
• TUDCA 250mg
• NAC 600mg
• Calcium D-Glucarate 1000mg
• Psyllium Husk 3g
• Taurine 2g
• Creatine 15g
• Digestive Enzymes
Updates:
• Been staying up too late reading/studying. I’ll get into something and next thing I know it’s way later than I thought. Gotta work on that this week
Sleep:
• Averaging 6.5-7h/night
Love that some of you are giving the split layout a try. I’ve been thoroughly enjoying it since I started. I have always been a PPL guy in some sense, it’s always reigned superior to me in being able to get the most volume in from a set time frame.
Threw a fun pic in of my post dinner walks, aka my late night 30min walks to get my steps in when I’m lagging.
• Weight: 215 lbs (97.5 kg)
• Height: 6’3 (190 cm)
Nutrition:
Training Days: ~3300 cals
Macros: 450c / 250p / 55f
Notes:
• Knot in my back is still there and is killing the workout. Both in a physical and mental aspect. Mentally because I can feel it in the middle of sets and throws off my focus/mind muscle connection.
Training Split:
• Push A
• Pull A
• Lower A
• Delts & Arms
• Push B
• Pull B & Posterior Chain
• Rest (more as needed)
Training notes:
• Saturday was Pull B & posterior which was a great lat and hamstring workout but that knot was aggravating on rows and reverse flys. Started workout with 1 set of pull ups to mechanical failure and going to start working those back in, lats felt more fired on that 1 set than most lat workouts as of recent.
• Took yesterday off and did a deep tissue massage hoping to help knot. Yet it was just as bad today during a Push workout. Used hella icy hot and honestly was too much as it would have a burning sensation during heavy pressing movements when my shoulders blades were tucked together and pressed against the bench, plus the knot pinch feeling every rep.
• Nonetheless still full throttle and just have to flip that switch for 30 seconds during working sets.
Current Cycle:
• Test Cypionate: 350mg/week (100mg every other day)
• HCG: 250IU EOD
• Reta: 2mg/week
• HGH: 2IU before bed (6x/week)
• Glow: 2mg/400mcg/400mcg
Cycle notes:
• No major side effects to report
• EQ & Anavar arrive Thursday according to usps (us postal is just as reliable as aus postal it sounds like lol)
• Was going to start EQ and Anavar off rip, but leaning towards just EQ for a couple weeks to make sure no crazy sides from EQ so that way I’m not adding 2 new compounds at the same time and having to flip a coin on which one is causing the sides
Health Supplements:
• Vitamin K2 + D3
• DIM 300mg
• Multivitamin
• Fish Oil 6g
• Zinc Picolinate 30mg
• TUDCA 250mg
• NAC 600mg
• Calcium D-Glucarate 1000mg
• Psyllium Husk 3g
• Taurine 2g
• Creatine 15g
• Digestive Enzymes
Updates:
• Been staying up too late reading/studying. I’ll get into something and next thing I know it’s way later than I thought. Gotta work on that this week
Sleep:
• Averaging 6.5-7h/night
Love that some of you are giving the split layout a try. I’ve been thoroughly enjoying it since I started. I have always been a PPL guy in some sense, it’s always reigned superior to me in being able to get the most volume in from a set time frame.
Threw a fun pic in of my post dinner walks, aka my late night 30min walks to get my steps in when I’m lagging.
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you ripped bro hella bigger too
@Tomandjerry nice one on the supplement list. It's always good to see those updates. You got everything covered.
Thanks brother
Appreciate it, always open to suggestions as well if someone ever sees a reason
Knot in my back is still there and is killing the workout. Both in a physical and mental aspect. Mentally because I can feel it in the middle of sets and throws off my focus/mind muscle connection.
Try foam rolling and or using a hardball on that area
Try foam rolling and or using a hardball on that area
Supplement list is fantastic as usual. I love that you're staying up to read. That's a good thing but you don't want to have it affect your sleep either. @Tomandjerry
Thanks for taking the time to post up some pictures. @Tomandjerry it's really nice to see your progression as the log goes on. I think that you'll continue to improve.
@Tomandjerry looking fantastic on this man. I like the pictures already. I can't wait to see you continue to improve.
bros hopefully you can get your sleep consistent. that is important. you want to recover @Tomandjerry
@Tomandjerry that eq and anavar will be great man! Love that combo
yep i always try and make suggestions on these logs as we goThanks brother
Appreciate it, always open to suggestions as well if someone ever sees a reason
Yeah never worth the loss of sleep
Thanks Ulter! Looking forward to keep improving Getting it back on track, always noticeable differences in recovery
I’ll be like a kid on Christmas when it comes in
Yeah losing sleep is the worst.
@Tomandjerry Looking awesome bro! Great update!
@Tomandjerry Solid update.....keep going.....
Update
• Weight: 217lb = 98.43 kg
• Height: 6’3 = 190cm
• Changes from last week: Weight is up from increased cals, still getting leaner and pumps are back to feeling like the skin is going to pop
Calories & Macros:
• Training Day calorie target: 3300 kcal/day
• Macros: 450 carbs, 55g fat, 250g protein
Notes:
• Knot is all but gone. It didn’t affect my arm day yesterday but it ruined the start of my leg day the day before, because I wasn’t able to pinch my back together for heavy BB squats. Subbed in leg press and just made sure to make those 4 sets feel as intense/heavy as my heavy squats were going to.
• US Postal is the least reliant delivery service. Package of gear, including EQ and anavar that I was going to start this week, sat in the delivery warehouse for 4 days, was supposed to get here Thursday night (last night) worst case scenario. Well today is a federal holiday so that means not shit til Monday. That means double scoop the preworkout to make up for it right? lol
Training Split:
• Push A
• Pull A
• Lower A
• Delts & Arms
• Push B
• Pull B & Posterior Chain
• Rest (more as needed)
Training notes:
• Arm day on Thursday was the best workout of the week, primarily because the knot was finally fading enough to not interfere with a movement directly.
• Taking today as an off day and let body recover from the week before a heavy push day tomorrow.
• Older brother’s birthday this week so going back home for that and to have a big group of us playing golf over the weekend.
Current Cycle:
• Test Cypionate: 350mg/week (100mg every other day)
• HCG: 250IU EOD
• Reta: 2mg/week (dropped from 3mg due to cal increase)
• HGH: 2IU before bed (6x/week)
• Glow: 2mg/400mcg/400mcg
• L-Carnitine: 600mg (training days)
• Mots-C: 1mg ED
Cycle notes:
• No major side effects to report
• Nothing new, waiting on EQ and Var
Health Supplements:
• Vitamin K2 + D3
• DIM 300mg
• Multivitamin
• Fish Oil 6g
• Zinc Picolinate 30mg
• TUDCA 250mg
• NAC 600mg
• Calcium D-Glucarate 1000mg
• Magnesium Glycinate 400mg
• Citrus Bergamot 1200mg
• Psyllium Husk 3g
• Taurine 2g
• Creatine 15g
• Digestive Enzymes
Sleep:
• Averaging 7h/night
• Weight: 217lb = 98.43 kg
• Height: 6’3 = 190cm
• Changes from last week: Weight is up from increased cals, still getting leaner and pumps are back to feeling like the skin is going to pop
Calories & Macros:
• Training Day calorie target: 3300 kcal/day
• Macros: 450 carbs, 55g fat, 250g protein
Notes:
• Knot is all but gone. It didn’t affect my arm day yesterday but it ruined the start of my leg day the day before, because I wasn’t able to pinch my back together for heavy BB squats. Subbed in leg press and just made sure to make those 4 sets feel as intense/heavy as my heavy squats were going to.
• US Postal is the least reliant delivery service. Package of gear, including EQ and anavar that I was going to start this week, sat in the delivery warehouse for 4 days, was supposed to get here Thursday night (last night) worst case scenario. Well today is a federal holiday so that means not shit til Monday. That means double scoop the preworkout to make up for it right? lol
Training Split:
• Push A
• Pull A
• Lower A
• Delts & Arms
• Push B
• Pull B & Posterior Chain
• Rest (more as needed)
Training notes:
• Arm day on Thursday was the best workout of the week, primarily because the knot was finally fading enough to not interfere with a movement directly.
• Taking today as an off day and let body recover from the week before a heavy push day tomorrow.
• Older brother’s birthday this week so going back home for that and to have a big group of us playing golf over the weekend.
Current Cycle:
• Test Cypionate: 350mg/week (100mg every other day)
• HCG: 250IU EOD
• Reta: 2mg/week (dropped from 3mg due to cal increase)
• HGH: 2IU before bed (6x/week)
• Glow: 2mg/400mcg/400mcg
• L-Carnitine: 600mg (training days)
• Mots-C: 1mg ED
Cycle notes:
• No major side effects to report
• Nothing new, waiting on EQ and Var
Health Supplements:
• Vitamin K2 + D3
• DIM 300mg
• Multivitamin
• Fish Oil 6g
• Zinc Picolinate 30mg
• TUDCA 250mg
• NAC 600mg
• Calcium D-Glucarate 1000mg
• Magnesium Glycinate 400mg
• Citrus Bergamot 1200mg
• Psyllium Husk 3g
• Taurine 2g
• Creatine 15g
• Digestive Enzymes
Sleep:
• Averaging 7h/night
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you have those nice quad sweeps coming in!Update
• Weight: 217lb = 98.43 kg
• Height: 6’3 = 190cm
• Changes from last week: Weight is up from increased cals, still getting leaner and pumps are back to feeling like the skin is going to pop
Calories & Macros:
• Training Day calorie target: 3300 kcal/day
• Macros: 450 carbs, 55g fat, 250g protein
Notes:
• Knot is all but gone. It didn’t affect my arm day yesterday but it ruined the start of my leg day the day before, because I wasn’t able to pinch my back together for heavy BB squats. Subbed in leg press and just made sure to make those 4 sets feel as intense/heavy as my heavy squats were going to.View attachment 172057
• US Postal is the least reliant delivery service. Package of gear, including EQ and anavar that I was going to start this week, sat in the delivery warehouse for 4 days, was supposed to get here Thursday night (last night) worst case scenario. Well today is a federal holiday so that means not shit til Monday. That means double scoop the preworkout to make up for it right? lol
Training Split:
• Push A
• Pull A
• Lower A
• Delts & Arms
• Push B
• Pull B & Posterior Chain
• Rest (more as needed)
Training notes:
• Arm day on Thursday was the best workout of the week, primarily because the knot was finally fading enough to not interfere with a movement directly.
• Taking today as an off day and let body recover from the week before a heavy push day tomorrow.
• Older brother’s birthday this week so going back home for that and to have a big group of us playing golf over the weekend.
Current Cycle:
• Test Cypionate: 350mg/week (100mg every other day)
• HCG: 250IU EOD
• Reta: 2mg/week (dropped from 3mg due to cal increase)
• HGH: 2IU before bed (6x/week)
• Glow: 2mg/400mcg/400mcg
• L-Carnitine: 600mg (training days)
• Mots-C: 1mg ED
Cycle notes:
• No major side effects to report
• Nothing new, waiting on EQ and Var
Health Supplements:
• Vitamin K2 + D3
• DIM 300mg
• Multivitamin
• Fish Oil 6g
• Zinc Picolinate 30mg
• TUDCA 250mg
• NAC 600mg
• Calcium D-Glucarate 1000mg
• Magnesium Glycinate 400mg
• Citrus Bergamot 1200mg
• Psyllium Husk 3g
• Taurine 2g
• Creatine 15g
• Digestive Enzymes
Sleep:
• Averaging 7h/night
Bros, hell yeah, recovery is crucial.
We don't expect anything less.
Update
Body Stats
• Weight: 218lb = 98.9 kg
• Height: 6’3 = 190cm
• Changes from last week: Took the last 2/3 weeks off from diet and took a break from online to reset, but the training was never lacking
Calories & Macros:
• Training Day calorie target: 2900 kcal/day
• Macros: 350 carbs, 55g fat, 250g protein
Notes:
• Definitely binge ate for a week, which not ideal for health or the cut, but ever since being on cycle I have been in a cut and just wanted to feel the strength and pumps for a bit
• Locked back in the diet this week, hard push for another 6 weeks
Training Split:
• Push A
• Pull A
• Lower A
• Delts & Arms
• Push B
• Pull B & Posterior Chain
• Rest (more as needed)
Training notes:
• Have been throwing around 275lb = 124.738 kg on incline bench for reps for first time ever so the binge refers was worth it for that alone
• A little watery still from the excess food, but physique is still progressing despite the diet crash
Current Cycle:
• Test Cypionate: 420mg/week (60mg ED)
• EQ: 180mg/week (60mg 3x/week)
• Anavar: 25mg preworkout
• HCG: 250IU EOD
• Reta: 5mg/week
• HGH: 2IU before bed (6x/week)
• Glow: 2mg/400mcg/400mcg
Cycle notes:
• No major side effects to report
• Got bloods done this morning to see EQ’s effect in E2. Been running EQ @150mg/wk for 4 weeks. Have been running Anavar for about 3 weeks. Today, bumped EQ and Test from 150->180, and 350->420, no change to Anavar. Depending on bloods will keep this cycle and hold Anavar for a full 8 weeks before dropping and check full panel bloods then and decide to continue push or not from there.
Health Supplements:
• Vitamin K2 + D3
• DIM 300mg
• Multivitamin
• Fish Oil 4g
• Zinc Picolinate 30mg
• TUDCA 250mg
• NAC 600mg
• Calcium D-Glucarate 1000mg
• Magnesium Glycinate 400mg
• Citrus Bergamot 1200mg
• Psyllium Husk 3g
• Taurine 2g
• Creatine 15g
• Digestive Enzymes
Sleep:
• Averaging 7h/night
Body Stats
• Weight: 218lb = 98.9 kg
• Height: 6’3 = 190cm
• Changes from last week: Took the last 2/3 weeks off from diet and took a break from online to reset, but the training was never lacking
Calories & Macros:
• Training Day calorie target: 2900 kcal/day
• Macros: 350 carbs, 55g fat, 250g protein
Notes:
• Definitely binge ate for a week, which not ideal for health or the cut, but ever since being on cycle I have been in a cut and just wanted to feel the strength and pumps for a bit
• Locked back in the diet this week, hard push for another 6 weeks
Training Split:
• Push A
• Pull A
• Lower A
• Delts & Arms
• Push B
• Pull B & Posterior Chain
• Rest (more as needed)
Training notes:
• Have been throwing around 275lb = 124.738 kg on incline bench for reps for first time ever so the binge refers was worth it for that alone
• A little watery still from the excess food, but physique is still progressing despite the diet crash
Current Cycle:
• Test Cypionate: 420mg/week (60mg ED)
• EQ: 180mg/week (60mg 3x/week)
• Anavar: 25mg preworkout
• HCG: 250IU EOD
• Reta: 5mg/week
• HGH: 2IU before bed (6x/week)
• Glow: 2mg/400mcg/400mcg
Cycle notes:
• No major side effects to report
• Got bloods done this morning to see EQ’s effect in E2. Been running EQ @150mg/wk for 4 weeks. Have been running Anavar for about 3 weeks. Today, bumped EQ and Test from 150->180, and 350->420, no change to Anavar. Depending on bloods will keep this cycle and hold Anavar for a full 8 weeks before dropping and check full panel bloods then and decide to continue push or not from there.
Health Supplements:
• Vitamin K2 + D3
• DIM 300mg
• Multivitamin
• Fish Oil 4g
• Zinc Picolinate 30mg
• TUDCA 250mg
• NAC 600mg
• Calcium D-Glucarate 1000mg
• Magnesium Glycinate 400mg
• Citrus Bergamot 1200mg
• Psyllium Husk 3g
• Taurine 2g
• Creatine 15g
• Digestive Enzymes
Sleep:
• Averaging 7h/night
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Still looking lean & dialed in!Update
Body Stats
• Weight: 218lb = 98.9 kg
• Height: 6’3 = 190cm
• Changes from last week: Took the last 2/3 weeks off from diet and took a break from online to reset, but the training was never lacking
Calories & Macros:
• Training Day calorie target: 2900 kcal/day
• Macros: 350 carbs, 55g fat, 250g protein
Notes:
• Definitely binge ate for a week, which not ideal for health or the cut, but ever since being on cycle I have been in a cut and just wanted to feel the strength and pumps for a bit
• Locked back in the diet this week, hard push for another 6 weeks
Training Split:
• Push A
• Pull A
• Lower A
• Delts & Arms
• Push B
• Pull B & Posterior Chain
• Rest (more as needed)
Training notes:
• Have been throwing around 275lb = 124.738 kg on incline bench for reps for first time ever so the binge refers was worth it for that alone
• A little watery still from the excess food, but physique is still progressing despite the diet crash
Current Cycle:
• Test Cypionate: 420mg/week (60mg ED)
• EQ: 180mg/week (60mg 3x/week)
• Anavar: 25mg preworkout
• HCG: 250IU EOD
• Reta: 5mg/week
• HGH: 2IU before bed (6x/week)
• Glow: 2mg/400mcg/400mcg
Cycle notes:
• No major side effects to report
• Got bloods done this morning to see EQ’s effect in E2. Been running EQ @150mg/wk for 4 weeks. Have been running Anavar for about 3 weeks. Today, bumped EQ and Test from 150->180, and 350->420, no change to Anavar. Depending on bloods will keep this cycle and hold Anavar for a full 8 weeks before dropping and check full panel bloods then and decide to continue push or not from there.
Health Supplements:
• Vitamin K2 + D3
• DIM 300mg
• Multivitamin
• Fish Oil 4g
• Zinc Picolinate 30mg
• TUDCA 250mg
• NAC 600mg
• Calcium D-Glucarate 1000mg
• Magnesium Glycinate 400mg
• Citrus Bergamot 1200mg
• Psyllium Husk 3g
• Taurine 2g
• Creatine 15g
• Digestive Enzymes
Sleep:
• Averaging 7h/night
That's some serious weight that you are throwing around on the Incline bench!
Just got bloods back, I expect a little inflation from the poor diet leading up to the bloods, but mostly from the cycle.
Since last bloods (about 4-5 weeks ago), I added in Anavar 25mg/day and EQ 150mg/wk, along with the 350mg Test. I went from EOD Test to ED injections since my E2 was a little high last time, I also was taking 500mcg of Calcium D-Glucarate and increased that to 1000mcg. Dropping back to 500mcg Calcium D-Glucarate to help raise E2 a couple points.
Increased test from 350->420. Plan was 200 EQ but after low E2 on these bloods I will only bump to 175. EQ will be 3x/wk still and will swap Test to 5 injections a week instead of ED, see how it affects bloods and to just reduce the pinning frequency since I travel quite a bit and makes it a pain in the ass
Since last bloods (about 4-5 weeks ago), I added in Anavar 25mg/day and EQ 150mg/wk, along with the 350mg Test. I went from EOD Test to ED injections since my E2 was a little high last time, I also was taking 500mcg of Calcium D-Glucarate and increased that to 1000mcg. Dropping back to 500mcg Calcium D-Glucarate to help raise E2 a couple points.
Increased test from 350->420. Plan was 200 EQ but after low E2 on these bloods I will only bump to 175. EQ will be 3x/wk still and will swap Test to 5 injections a week instead of ED, see how it affects bloods and to just reduce the pinning frequency since I travel quite a bit and makes it a pain in the ass
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Glad to be back in the communityStill looking lean & dialed in!
That's some serious weight that you are throwing around on the Incline bench!
When my bloods showed E2 in the 70s, I was injecting 3x/week on 350 test, no other AAS or ai, just 500mcg calcium d glucarate and 300mg DIM everyday.
After seeing the high E2, the following 4 weeks I added in EQ at 150mg/wk injecting MWF. Swapped from injecting Test 3x/week to every day, no change in total weekly dosage. Also added in anavar at 25mg/day for the 4 weeks. I also increased the calcium d glucarate to 1000mg/day. But I think most of the E2 drop is from the 4 weeks of EQ and swapping to everyday injections, with an added nudge from calcium d glucarate. Also a hair leaner on than I was a month ago
The eq would be the main influence here no doubt at all bruz
70s e2 on calcium d glucarate only and DIM? interesting bro
but why did you add eq?
E2 in the 70s is too high for my preference (in America so it’s pg/mL), and I planned on bumping Test up further so I knew my E2 was only going to keep climbing. My plan was to add the EQ, but I am also working with a local coach and always getting great guidance from @koba which solidified my plan to add EQ both from an anabolic and AI standpoint. But 15pg/ml is too low so hoping to get it more around 30pg/ml
how high you want estrogen?
I want to at least get to 30pg/ml, ideal world I get it to sit in the 30s or 40s. I notice more sides on low e2 than I do on high e2 @the_alcatraz
Been a while so quick recap on the cycle and its duration since the start:
• 03/29 350mg Test/week
• 05/05 Anavar 25mg/day, 350 Test, 150 EQ
• 05/29 450 Test, 150 EQ (dropped Anavar)
•07/15 550 Test, 300 Primo, 50 EQ
The thought with the current dosage is I wanted to swap EQ for Primo and maintain the estrogen blocking side effect/benefit. 350 T, 150 EQ my E2 was 14 pg/ml. 450T, 150 EQ it is “>30” (most recent panel doesn’t measure below 30). I want the cycle to be test heavy since it is still the first cycle I’m running. Always welcome to thoughts on it. I attached my most recent bloods, part of the reason I’m dropping EQ for Primo is even with Reta I feel my hunger has increased and that is sometimes reported with EQ so will save it for the winter. Was eating like a pig leading up to bloods, partial blame on EQ partially on traveling almost every weekend so lots of off plan treats and some drinks, but traveling is over for a while.
Health Supplements:
• Vitamin K2 + D3
• DIM 300mg
• Multivitamin
• Fish Oil 5g
• Zinc Picolinate 30mg
• TUDCA 250mg
• NAC 1200mg
• Calcium D-Glucarate 500mg
• Magnesium Glycinate 280mg
• Citrus Bergamot 1200mg
• Psyllium Husk 2g
• Taurine 3g
• Ubiquinol 200mg
• Creatine 15g
• Digestive Enzymes
• 03/29 350mg Test/week
• 05/05 Anavar 25mg/day, 350 Test, 150 EQ
• 05/29 450 Test, 150 EQ (dropped Anavar)
•07/15 550 Test, 300 Primo, 50 EQ
The thought with the current dosage is I wanted to swap EQ for Primo and maintain the estrogen blocking side effect/benefit. 350 T, 150 EQ my E2 was 14 pg/ml. 450T, 150 EQ it is “>30” (most recent panel doesn’t measure below 30). I want the cycle to be test heavy since it is still the first cycle I’m running. Always welcome to thoughts on it. I attached my most recent bloods, part of the reason I’m dropping EQ for Primo is even with Reta I feel my hunger has increased and that is sometimes reported with EQ so will save it for the winter. Was eating like a pig leading up to bloods, partial blame on EQ partially on traveling almost every weekend so lots of off plan treats and some drinks, but traveling is over for a while.
Health Supplements:
• Vitamin K2 + D3
• DIM 300mg
• Multivitamin
• Fish Oil 5g
• Zinc Picolinate 30mg
• TUDCA 250mg
• NAC 1200mg
• Calcium D-Glucarate 500mg
• Magnesium Glycinate 280mg
• Citrus Bergamot 1200mg
• Psyllium Husk 2g
• Taurine 3g
• Ubiquinol 200mg
• Creatine 15g
• Digestive Enzymes
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@Tomandjerry the supplement list is good stuff! i like the fish oil and the taurine is really solid
bros looks good if you ask me. the EQ and test is on point. keep it going @Tomandjerry
Bros, this is a heck of a list. I like the peds that you're doing. @Tomandjerry anavar and testosterone is one of my favorites along with the EQ.
I didn’t realize until after that for someone reason the estradiol panel on that one limits out low estradiol and only tests levels above 39pg/ml. Getting another draw done in about 2 weeks that tests E2 on full range (panel I usually run), plus gives me an idea of direction bloods are 3 weeks into the new stack I am running
I’m naturally vascular as is, but the EQ really made my veins pop almost too much haha. I normally have a bicep vein when walking around even when I was natural before this cycle, but now my bicep vein is way more obvious and my quads and calves have veins running down them unpumped. I love the look of veins but I don’t want to be in the grocery store and scream I’m on steroids with my veins sticking out (at least not yet into this journey)
Seeing how primo does the body in a cut but really looking forward to EQ during a growth phase later in the year
Might toss the anavar back in the final 3/4 weeks of cutting
@stevesmi has done threads on what tests to get
@Tomandjerry test, primo, eq is a good one. but i agree swap in one or the other. Works more efficiently.
I would not be so concerned with the whole estrogen thing. I would be more concerned with simplifying the cycle and having it under control. @Tomandjerry
Main concern is just overall health and slowly titrating the cycle up and keeping it simple like you said so blood markers stay in range. Goal is a long a healthy push, not a short blast. The estrogen I keep an eye on to see how my body responds to the ratio of EQ and now primo to see how much AI effects it gives
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