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Been a minute since I’ve been on the forums. Some of the guys here might remember. Worked with Dylan on this a bit but going to be running GW501516 and S23 for 12 weeks. Before people jump on me I know S23 is suppressive, but I’ve had my kids and closer to 40 than not I’m not concerned about shutdown, and planning on PCT after the run. My question is really revolves around how long would be recommended to take off between cycles of S23 (assuming I like it and results). I know with most SARMS it’s not as long as AAS due to most are not suppressive, however with S23 being as suppressive as it is, what’s the recommendation on time off with it. Thanks.


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dylangemelli said:
6-8 weeks since s23 is involved otherwise it would generally be 4 with any other sarm
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Thanks bro! Have high hopes on the stack!


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stevesmi said:
why would people jump on you for asking a question? ask whatever you want that is what the forum is for
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Most would say do for 8 weeks or do more reading or some bs, but not too many people running s23 (guessing due to it causing shutdown). How you been bro!? Been a while


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LetsGrow said:
Been a minute since I’ve been on the forums. Some of the guys here might remember. Worked with Dylan on this a bit but going to be running GW501516 and S23 for 12 weeks. Before people jump on me I know S23 is suppressive, but I’ve had my kids and closer to 40 than not I’m not concerned about shutdown, and planning on PCT after the run. My question is really revolves around how long would be recommended to take off between cycles of S23 (assuming I like it and results). I know with most SARMS it’s not as long as AAS due to most are not suppressive, however with S23 being as suppressive as it is, what’s the recommendation on time off with it. Thanks.


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welcome back to the forums hommie, I remember you

if you didnt take s23 or buy it yet I would recommend something better for you, suppressive or not I mean better results

Cardarine gw501516 20mgs
testolone rad140 25mgs
ostarine mk2866 50mgs

you'll get better results than gw+s23 to be honest and LESS sides a lot less
 
the_alcatraz said:
welcome back to the forums hommie, I remember you

if you didnt take s23 or buy it yet I would recommend something better for you, suppressive or not I mean better results

Cardarine gw501516 20mgs
testolone rad140 25mgs
ostarine mk2866 50mgs

you'll get better results than gw+s23 to be honest and LESS sides a lot less
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Thanks man. Remember you too. I ordered already but will keep that in mind for next round lol. I got a ways to go to where I want to get.

How you been?


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LetsGrow said:
Most would say do for 8 weeks or do more reading or some bs, but not too many people running s23 (guessing due to it causing shutdown). How you been bro!? Been a while


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awesome man, good to see some vets back. check out evolutionary.org too, we got a nice forum going there as well.
 
stevesmi said:
awesome man, good to see some vets back. check out evolutionary.org too, we got a nice forum going there as well.
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Thanks. Think I got the link in my Tapatalk [emoji106]

Been a while, I’m sure I’m out of loop in terms of what’s relevant these days hahaha


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BodyMonster34 said:
bro yo should try it yoself and see what happens. s23 not gonna shut you down as bad as people think
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Def going to run it and see how I do. Going to pct because not worth the risk.


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LetsGrow said:
Been a minute since I’ve been on the forums. Some of the guys here might remember. Worked with Dylan on this a bit but going to be running GW501516 and S23 for 12 weeks. Before people jump on me I know S23 is suppressive, but I’ve had my kids and closer to 40 than not I’m not concerned about shutdown, and planning on PCT after the run. My question is really revolves around how long would be recommended to take off between cycles of S23 (assuming I like it and results). I know with most SARMS it’s not as long as AAS due to most are not suppressive, however with S23 being as suppressive as it is, what’s the recommendation on time off with it. Thanks.


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Check out our podcast all about SARMS:



SARMS Wrap up show
https://www.evolutionary.org/evolutionary-org-podcast-360-sarms-wrap-up-show/
 
I know this is a super general statement but I have ran S-23 and to me it was similar to running var. Based on that I like Dylan's recommendation of time off. Make sure you let us know how you like it.
 
So question…with sarms, is there a point if you take consistently that dose and results begin to diminish and have to up dose (or something like that)?


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LetsGrow said:
So question…with sarms, is there a point if you take consistently that dose and results begin to diminish and have to up dose (or something like that)?


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It generally takes 12 weeks for sarms to saturate your receptors so keep that in mind
and high dosing sarms doesnt work its not like steroids
 
LetsGrow said:
Been a minute since I’ve been on the forums. Some of the guys here might remember. Worked with Dylan on this a bit but going to be running GW501516 and S23 for 12 weeks. Before people jump on me I know S23 is suppressive, but I’ve had my kids and closer to 40 than not I’m not concerned about shutdown, and planning on PCT after the run. My question is really revolves around how long would be recommended to take off between cycles of S23 (assuming I like it and results). I know with most SARMS it’s not as long as AAS due to most are not suppressive, however with S23 being as suppressive as it is, what’s the recommendation on time off with it. Thanks.


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The same as if it was an AAS cycle
 
Ok let me ask differently…I’m not saying I’m going to just increase but with aas people notice that the gains they were getting at certain doses fade and need to up the dosage to get the same kind of results. My question is purely for knowledge at this state…is there a drop off of effectiveness (regardless of which SARM you are talking about) with long term cycling (ie 12 weeks on, 8 weeks off, then starting again)? At any point will the SARM dose need to change?


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LetsGrow said:
Ok let me ask differently…I’m not saying I’m going to just increase but with aas people notice that the gains they were getting at certain doses fade and need to up the dosage to get the same kind of results. My question is purely for knowledge at this state…is there a drop off of effectiveness (regardless of which SARM you are talking about) with long term cycling (ie 12 weeks on, 8 weeks off, then starting again)? At any point will the SARM dose need to change?
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Yes at some points sarms will saturate your receptors at about 12 weeks and higher dose will not help that

time off from sarms cycling will help it

so yes receptor saturation is true for sarms, steroids, hgh etc ALL drugs even alcohol tobacco etc all has saturation issues
 
Gains will always diminish in time. Just run it exactly like AAS. Pick a dose and stick with it. When you start changing it, you open yourself up to side effects based on fluctuation hormones.
 
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Ok let me ask differently…I’m not saying I’m going to just increase but with aas people notice that the gains they were getting at certain doses fade and need to up the dosage to get the same kind of results. My question is purely for knowledge at this state…is there a drop off of effectiveness (regardless of which SARM you are talking about) with long term cycling (ie 12 weeks on, 8 weeks off, then starting again)? At any point will the SARM dose need to change?


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Nope. Accept the early gains as best and then be ok with still growing, if slower.
 
Receptor saturation is the issue with all products, sarms incl., so allow some time off, increasing dose will not make it better, rest will
 
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I ran s23 last year a couple of time.
Did blood work regularly. It was always in a stack.
I’m on 55 and on TRT. Once even ran it with YK11.
Always 12 weeks.
No sides and not bad shut down.
Can’t say I felt much at all. Used good local source.
You should be fine. Enjoy the cycle, keep use updated and hit it hard.
 
Took first dose today. Nothing too much to report but definitely feel warmer lol. I’m a bit tired but been traveling for work recently and feeling a bit worn down. Excited to get going.


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Also, is there anything like sr9009 but doesn’t require dosing every 2-3 hours (besides the gw501516)?


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LetsGrow said:
Also, is there anything like sr9009 but doesn’t require dosing every 2-3 hours (besides the gw501516)?


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No there isnt bro… u can go 10 mg three times a day… the very best way is every 2-3 hours but u can dose that way as well


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LetsGrow said:
Also, is there anything like sr9009 but doesn’t require dosing every 2-3 hours (besides the gw501516)?


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The only thing that compares to sr9009 stenabolic is cardarine gw501516 thats it

but you can easily dose sr9009 its not hard just time it right
 
the_alcatraz said:
The only thing that compares to sr9009 stenabolic is cardarine gw501516 thats it

but you can easily dose sr9009 its not hard just time it right
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Every 2-3 hours would be difficult with my schedule. Maybe one day if work ever calms down lol


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Vadim Fedorov said:
Add GW to S23 and that should give you some good gains, and very little or no sides
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That’s what I am doing now [emoji6][emoji106]


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Thanks guys!


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So not sure if something like a placebo effect but I swear my endurance was higher during workout; just kept going and not gassing out or anything. Fucking crazy if really working that fast lol [emoji23]


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SteveMobsterG said:
Your avatar - I actually lost it once and said I was gonna do that lol
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dylangemelli said:
No there isnt bro… u can go 10 mg three times a day… the very best way is every 2-3 hours but u can dose that way as well


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Thanks bro!


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LetsGrow said:
So not sure if something like a placebo effect but I swear my endurance was higher during workout; just kept going and not gassing out or anything. Fucking crazy if really working that fast lol [emoji23]


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Either way, take it!
 
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So question…I’ve noticed my weight has been going up over past 2 weeks. Is this normal given my stack or should I be seeing my weight going down?


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LetsGrow said:
So question…I’ve noticed my weight has been going up over past 2 weeks. Is this normal given my stack or should I be seeing my weight going down?


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more importantly do you look better in the mirror?

i hate paying attention to a scale
 
LetsGrow said:
So question…I’ve noticed my weight has been going up over past 2 weeks. Is this normal given my stack or should I be seeing my weight going down?


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You can have weight go up if you're gaining mass
you can gain mass and lose fat at the same time

hows your diet? if you're low carb high protein you're good
 
Few lbs over past two weeks. While I’m not normally one to watch the scale, given the profiles of seams I would have thought I would go down a bit in weight even if gaining some muscle. Diet is moderate carbs (probably less than 200g) which isn’t too bad for me considering I’m 6’6” and 276lbs. Protein around 225g, rest are healthy fats. Not going to say diet is perfect but I would say it’s like 85-90% good. Just wondering if I’m off somewhere, trying to keep my calories around 2,500/day. Thoughts?


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LetsGrow said:
Few lbs over past two weeks. While I’m not normally one to watch the scale, given the profiles of seams I would have thought I would go down a bit in weight even if gaining some muscle. Diet is moderate carbs (probably less than 200g) which isn’t too bad for me considering I’m 6’6” and 276lbs. Protein around 225g, rest are healthy fats. Not going to say diet is perfect but I would say it’s like 85-90% good. Just wondering if I’m off somewhere, trying to keep my calories around 2,500/day. Thoughts?


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Post up starting and where you are now pics.
 
I’m not expecting anything significant or whatever just based on what I’m taking if expectation should be to see weight go down, stay sane, or go up throughout cycle (or what I should expect throughout, ie…at first weight will go up, then will start going down regularly after a certain amount of time)…


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It is definitely possible man. Hormones are fluctuating, and on top of that tons of things influence weight on the scale. Hence why we don't typically use it as a barometer. I would go with the mirror like others have said. Unless you see the trend continue at the same rate. Then I would make some adjustments.
 
Thanks. Yeah unusually go by look but working on recomp so thinking across all spectrums


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Tazz said:
any update?
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Strength is improving for sure. Haven’t been impressed with gw honestly. Haven’t noticed much benefit there at all - doesn’t feel like stamina is really any better. Taking the recommended dose but wondering if that just doesn’t work for me or not.


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I have seen non responders with gw before although it is more so on the rare so, it can happen with any compound used... often times people that dont care for gw switch to sr9009 or 9011 and have tremendous results and there is also the option of going with gw-0742, which many believe is a stronger version itself...
 
dylangemelli said:
I have seen non responders with gw before although it is more so on the rare so, it can happen with any compound used... often times people that dont care for gw switch to sr9009 or 9011 and have tremendous results and there is also the option of going with gw-0742, which many believe is a stronger version itself...
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Thanks. Yeah I was looking at 9009 next time round. Will likely use with tren stack I’m thinking of putting together ;)


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dylangemelli said:
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Question…how long after last dose should I start pct?


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LetsGrow said:
Question…how long after last dose should I start pct?


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I literally cannot make that layout any easier to follow dude. Everything is written out to hold someones hand through the entire cycle. The weeks are clearly marked


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dylangemelli said:
I literally cannot make that layout any easier to follow dude. Everything is written out to hold someones hand through the entire cycle. The weeks are clearly marked


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You laid out great for aas cycle…this question was for my current sarms only stack…not sure if timing of pct is the same or different due to half life of sarms vs aas.


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LetsGrow said:
You laid out great for aas cycle…this question was for my current sarms only stack…not sure if timing of pct is the same or different due to half life of sarms vs aas.


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Sorrymisread the thread. Pct starts the day after your last dose


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dylangemelli said:
Sorrymisread the thread. Pct starts the day after your last dose


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Thanks mate!


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