Cutting Cycle - Real Gains

[KARDASHIAN]

Hi there guys!

Well, first of all,
I'm 34 years old, about 12% BF, training for ~10 years and never used roids before.

However, read about that for a long time and, at this point, I'm pretty sure and mature to get into.

My goals are:
- build lean muscle
- maintain it
- one digit of BF

I'm out of orals for toxacity and etc.
I'm out of T in decent doses for bloating and to avoid a bigger and long crash AFTER the cycle.

Here's my mind:

10 weeks cycle
300 mg of MAST or PRIMO
100 mg of TREN E
HCG (to stimulate T production)

Please, want to know your thoughts, specially about the dose of HCG during the cycle.

Feel free to critic me.
It's a pleasure share yours experiences.

 

[KARDASHIAN]

In addition, I usually eat over the past years in high protein medium fat and low carb.

 

[muskate]

Your cycle needs a lot of work.
1. You need to add in a testosterone base. Running tren without at least a TRT dosage of testosterone is asking for libido issues.
2. There are no support supplements on your cycle. You need to add in an AI, anti-prolactin drug and cardarine.
3. HCG is a pretty controversial topic but in my personal opinion, it does more harm then good. Read this: http://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed/

This is a pre-contest cutting cycle I commonly recommend to a lot of my competitors. I have seen guys go from 10% body fat to 6% while GAINING muscle in 10 weeks on this cycle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3lNZLtaYVw

Weeks 1 - 10
Testosterone 200mg/week
Trenbolone 200mg/week
Masteron 200mg/week
Winstrol 50mg/day
N2guard 7 capsules/day
Aromasin 10mg every other day
Cabergoline 0.25mg every other day
[FONT=Roboto, arial, sans-serif]Cardarine 20mg/day[/FONT]

[FONT=Roboto, arial, sans-serif]Followed by the perfect PCT protocol -> [/FONT]http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[stevesmi]

A tren + Primo cycle is one of the best cycles out there. I'm not sure why people keep saying to use test with tren, its actually counter productive to do that. the reason primo/tren is a good stack is you are combining an androgenic compound with an anabolic. and the primo offsets any immune issues with tren. this means less side effects then using test with tren.

I wouldn't bother adding masteron to this at all.

this is the way I would run it though.

tren E 250mg per week
primo 500mg per week

the caveat here is that primo is heavily faked so make sure you have a good source.. you can go here and find real primo>> http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/source-talk/my-favorite-sources-part-ii-37624.html

and you don't need hcg on cycle. run hcgenerate instead and run n2guard.

 

[KARDASHIAN]

Your cycle needs a lot of work.
1. You need to add in a testosterone base. Running tren without at least a TRT dosage of testosterone is asking for libido issues.
2. There are no support supplements on your cycle. You need to add in an AI, anti-prolactin drug and cardarine.
3. HCG is a pretty controversial topic but in my personal opinion, it does more harm then good. Read this

Weeks 1 - 10
Testosterone 200mg/week
Trenbolone 200mg/week
Masteron 200mg/week
Winstrol 50mg/day
N2guard 7 capsules/day
Aromasin 10mg every other day
Cabergoline 0.25mg every other day
[FONT=Roboto, arial, sans-serif]Cardarine 20mg/day/

Thank you very much for share your points and knowledge, Trevor.

Like I said, I have zero personal experience with roids.

But what I learned with research over the years - and seems pretty obvious to me - is that the best your libido during a steroid cycle, the worst you are going to be after the cycle....

Greater will be the hormonal crash, and the body will need too much time to equalize hormones by yourself; since I don't have the intention to be in cruise.
That's my starting point.

I just want one digit BF, build some lean muscle and reach hardness look.

And have the possibility to maintain these gains without drogs.

I have the opportunity to get some real primo from Turkey.

So, keeping the cycle most simple as possible, please your thoughts:

10 weeks
PRIMO 300 mg per week
TREN 100 mg per week
TEST E 100 mg per week

1 - this low dose of T is suficient for the only propouse of TRT?

2 - is still necessary add an AI on these low doses of T and TREN?

 

[KARDASHIAN]

A tren + Primo cycle is one of the best cycles out there. I'm not sure why people keep saying to use test with tren, its actually counter productive to do that. the reason primo/tren is a good stack is you are combining an androgenic compound with an anabolic. and the primo offsets any immune issues with tren. this means less side effects then using test with tren.

I wouldn't bother adding masteron to this at all.

this is the way I would run it though.

tren E 250mg per week
primo 500mg per week

the caveat here is that primo is heavily faked so make sure you have a good source.. you can go here and find real primo>> http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/source-talk/my-favorite-sources-part-ii-37624.html

and you don't need hcg on cycle. run hcgenerate instead and run n2guard.

Thanx for your time man.

Two points over your points, please:

1 - is the function of HCGenerate to keep the T level in this cycle?

2 - i'm securThanx for your time man.

Two points over your points, please:

1 - is the function of HCGenerate to keep the T level in this cycle?

2 - i'm secure to use low/medium doses to give my body a faster adaptation to the hormonal changes.

So,
100 mg TREN week
300 mg PRIMO week
Should be enough for my purposes?

 

[KARDASHIAN]

Hi SteveSML.

Two points over yours, please:

1 - is the function of HCGenerate to keep the T level in this cycle?

2 - i'm secure to use low/medium doses to give my body a faster adaptation to the hormonal changes.

So,
100 mg TREN week
300 mg PRIMO week
Should be enough for my porposes?

 

[KARDASHIAN]

Well mates.

i'm grateful for your thoughts up here.

I believe that in life less is (almost) always more.

So, I decided to run only bayer PRIMO and HCG instead a lot of different drugs, with single sides and etc.

Week 1
* 600 mg of PRIMO *

Week 2
* 700 mg of PRIMO *

Weeks 3 - 10
* 800 mg of PRIMO *
*** 250iu HCG every 4 days ***

Weeks 11 - 12
*600 mg of PRIMO*

About HCG, I read good reviews and some clinical tests indicating it significantly prevent testicular degeneration when administered during a cycle and create a seamless transition to off cycle, helping in the post cycle crash.

I found a doctor to follow me with regular blood tests on this period.