cycle advice tren first time?

[oxezo]

do u think this is a good cycle :
1-4 dianabol 30mg/day
1-12 test c 200m/week
2-10 tren a 100mg eod
This will be my 2nd cycle , 1st was test e 500/week

i have for pct:
week 13-14 HCG ( how much should i use to kickstart pct?)
week 15-18 clomid 50/50/25/25
week 17-20 nolva 20/20/20/20

During cycle i have
arimidex ( i'll do .25 eod or .5)
do i need caber?
do i need liver protector for that low dose dbol?

 

[zmyj88]

Glad you edited more on there haha I was gonna tear this up when I got back from work.

Looks good for a run to feel out the tren, you can always up the doses as needed.
Yes, I'd have caber on hand, love it, even if just for the sexual sides. Tren+caber I swear you need more than one woman to handle that.
I'm one personally that holds off on ais until needed, they crash me too easily for some reason. And technically, you have barely more than a trt dose of test there, and tren doesn't aromatize, so I *myself, wouldn't even start with the adex. Some would tho, its up to your body.
I don't use liver protector ever, doctors okay with it, enzymes are fine, a little elevated, but no worse than a night of partying. Only thing i really think that kills your liver is the metribolone, you can feel that shit killing you i swear to god you can. Can't hurt to have some tho I figure, liv52 is cheap.
As far as pct, I'd look up the Dr. Scally pct. Used to love it when pct was still a thing for me. Tho I dropped the hcg dose to like 1000 iu EOD, then clomid nolva. 2500 is a little excessive I think as far as desensitization.
Just be ready, its still gonna suck. For me coming off tren is like jumping off a building, the pct just makes it feel like landing on a pillow rather than right on the concrete.. But at the end of the day, my dumbass still did just jump off a building

 

[oxezo]

1)"Yes, I'd have caber on hand, love it, even if just for the sexual sides. Tren+caber I swear you need more than one woman to handle that."
What do u mean with that ? lol
2) do u think 350mg/week of tren is too low dose?
" Looks good for a run to feel out the tren, you can always up the doses as needed. "
3)i'll use ai to try to handle the water retention on dbol

 

[dabuffguy]

First cycle?

Or first cycle using tren?

 

[dabuffguy]

Btw, 50mg tren a ED is more than plenty for a first time. Not over the top, but if you have legit stuff, it will give you a solid taste of what tren is capable of.

 

[zmyj88]

1. Sorry, lemme Clarify somewhat. The caber keeps you hard all the time, because high prolactin from tren can give you soft wood. Some will argue "control estro and you control prolactin" yadda yadda, I don't care, I like the caber. The cabers hard ons plus the teens, I dunno, drive? Attitude? Oomph, for lack of a better word, has always been a relationship killer for me, one isn't enough, no woman can have sex morning noon and night everyday day in, day out. Plus with the tren "attitude"? I don't put up with any bullshit, I just shoe them the door. That shredded hard, veiny, full, tren look helps too, because another one isn't hard to find.
2. No I do not, its better to start low Especially with this stuff. You Will feel it, adjust as needed.
3. Yes I can see that, I even agree with it, I just personally dont do it.

 

[zmyj88]

Predator! That's the word. Tren makes you like some kinda alpha-male predator. Not in the "to catch a predator" kind of way, obviously, but in like a "king of the jungle" way

 

[oxezo]

dabuff it's my 2nd cycle ( first time tren ).
zmy i cant wait to feel it!

 

[zmyj88]

Others will notice before you do, its gradual. I'll tell you what tho, when that dude cits you off on the highway and your first thought is to pull him out the window and beat him to death... Pause... Its the tren, think with your brain bro, not with the tren haha

 

[dabuffguy]

dabuff it's my 2nd cycle ( first time tren ).
zmy i cant wait to feel it!

What was your first cycle bro?

 

[oxezo]

I wrote it in the first post , 500/week test-e

 

[oxezo]

Should i run caber from the start or if needed ?

 

[zmyj88]

If needed, its not cheap and it works fast

 

[dabuffguy]

I wrote it in the first post , 500/week test-e

Oh, missed that, my bad.

Well, if you really want to use tren on your second cycle, nobody is stopping you.


But, there are other options like trying dbol with test or something else not quite so hardcore yet.

Tren just makes everything else seem like weaksauce in comparison, so once you try it, you'll always have to use it to get that same beast level sensation.

Dbol or anadrol are both way stronger than testosterone and will give you very remarkable results above your last cycle, so perhaps you wait til a 3rd cycle to try tren.

If you do it this time, you'll for sure be amazed, but nothing else will compare again.

Just food for thought.

Who knows, you might hate tren. Some can't use it because of sides, while others turn into hercules and feel great. Hopefully it plays well for you.

 

[oxezo]

i'm sure i'll like it

 

[big_boy_1]

2nd cycle is too early to use tren.
At this rate you'll be doing nonstop cycles just to keep (get?) 17 inch arms.

Just do 500 mg test + dianabol for now.

 

[zmyj88]

2nd cycle is too early to use tren.
At this rate you'll be doing nonstop cycles just to keep (get?) 17 inch arms.

Just do 500 mg test + dianabol for now.

Haha What do you really think the chances of him doin that are? I mean, if you were Vegas, what would the odds be?

I agree with you too, 100%, but when that tren idea gets in your head, you start reading all that good stuff online....its all over but the pinnin

 

[travism]

It has been a LONG time since I have been on this forum, but there used to be an expert on transdermal tren with Phlojel Ultra here called "centeroiler". Has anyone heard anything from him lately?

 

[oxezo]

If needed, its not cheap and it works fast

Yeah , that shit is not cheap and i dont have all that money i'll run it at 0.25mg e3d during all the 8 weeks of tren. I hope it's enough.

 

[thecompound]

run supporting supplements, they are just as important as PCT. tren comes with a host of issues that, armed with the proper vitamins can seriously quell.

 

[charger69mx]

It is hard to give any advice without any stats. When you start talking tren, there can be some very hard sides and expect on becoming irritable.
Hcg should be taken during the cycle and i would only use arimidex.

 

[oxezo]

i dont care if my ball shrink i'll use hcg only as a kickstarter for pct and yes i use multivitamins everyday