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Robin Williams ... your thoughts

and if I were gonna oft myself it woodn't be from swinging from a romp and subsequent asphyxiation



just sayin'
 
Rip
 
why was he so depressed?


He was rich/famous and had been to rehab a couple times?



Fuck off get some real problems
 
Not sure i'll ever understand depression

Too much of a realist, I guess

If something in your life makes you unhappy, stop being involved with wtf ever it is. Problem solved.
 
MM telling us all about clinical depression and how bad life sux in 3..2..
That's kind of a fucking cold and shitty thing to say, good job.
 
I think it goes to show you that no matter what your social class or how much money you have, a real clinical depression is no joke and something some people have a life long struggle with.

I feel sad for his family too.
 
I kinda wonder if he wasn't more bipolar ...that seems to fit.
 
Not sure i'll ever understand depression

Too much of a realist, I guess

If something in your life makes you unhappy, stop being involved with wtf ever it is. Problem solved.
Since you threw the challenge at me, I'll try to explain why it's just not that simple, as briefly as possible.

The majority of clinical depression -- as opposed to situational depression -- stems from either chemical imbalance (not just neurochemical imbalance, but also hormonal imbalance, including low thyroid, low testosterone, etc.), or as a result of trauma (it often goes hand in hand with PTSD).

IOW, you can't walk away from whatever is grieving you, because the grief is part of you. You take your prison where ever you go. You can kid yourself, hide in drugs or alcohol, pretend everything is okay by losing yourself, but it lurks, like a mental herpes, waiting to break out again.

It's not "unhappiness", it's more like "what's the fucking point to anything?" combined with utter exhaustion, a total lack of enthusiasm, hope, joy, passion and even physical aches and pains. It's like having the flu, 24/7, for months or years at a time. At least that's how crummy I've felt and I don't have it severely.

/soapbox
 
I could go on for hours about depression, all I can say is that it exists and I've battled with it..divorce really took away part of my life. Sure, I met a better person but it was more about my kids than anything. Some people just deal with it better or hide it quite well..anyways, rip Robin, you will be missed..very sad that you could make people feel so good, but then couldn't help yourself..
 
that's situational depression knot clinical depression dipshit





take a hydro


Either way, it's still depression you slimy fucking sack of lion shit. Who the fuck are you calling me a dipshit? I'll ban your ass faster than I could shove a hydro up your pisshole
 
Being rich and famous doesn't even matter, none of those things will make anyone happy. If anything being in financial difficulties and away from the famous is helpful.

Money and being surrounded by shitty people isn't going to be able to buy anyone the ability to see value in life and the right to merely exist.
 
I could go on for hours about depression, all I can say is that it exists and I've battled with it..divorce really took away part of my life. Sure, I met a better person but it was more about my kids than anything. Some people just deal with it better or hide it quite well..anyways, rip Robin, you will be missed..very sad that you could make people feel so good, but then couldn't help yourself..

Woot, what is it that divorce took away from you? Can you tell me what you are missing now that you had before?
 
why was he so depressed?


He was rich/famous and had been to rehab a couple times?



Fuck off get some real problems

"Money can't buy happiness"

For those that have experienced a true depressive state will understand. Those that haven't, will not.


I had a friend kill himself. He battled terrible depression and headaches for years. He tried to get help. He even told his parents that he couldn't go on any longer and was going to end his own misery but wished he could have been helped instead. He wanted to get better, he cried out for help and in the end he felt there was no hope left and killed himself.

Truly sad case. He was a great guy.
 
Here are some facts about depression:

  • Although major depression can strike people of any age, the median age at onset is 32.5, according to Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis.
  • Depression is more common in women than in men, according to Washington University.
  • Men with depression are more likely than depressed women to abuse alcohol and other substances, according to Jill Goldstein, director of research at the Connors Center for Women's Health and Gender Biology at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston. Depressed men may also try to mask their sadness by turning to other outlets, such as watching TV, playing sports and working excessively, or engaging in risky behaviors, Goldstein told Live Science in an interview earlier this year.
  • Men's symptoms of depression may be harder for other people to recognize, and the illness is missed more frequently in men, Goldstein said.
  • Men with depression are more likely than women with the condition to commit suicide, Goldstein said. Men with depression may go longer without being diagnosed or treated, and so men may develop a more devastating mental health problem.
  • Symptoms of depression extend far beyond feeling sad, and may include: loss of interest and pleasure in normal activities, irritability, agitation or restlessness, lower sex drive, decreased concentration, insomnia or excessive sleeping and chronic fatigue and lethargy, according to Mayo Clinic.

Robin Williams death: The difference between depression and normal sadness | Fox News
 
Just as I said a couple of months back when a lifelong buddy of mine killed himself, I think it's a selfish act.

I understand having problems, hell everyone has problems, but when you have family and people who love you dearly, it should be a duty to never stop seeking help.

We understand more about mental illness now than ever before, so why wouldn't you do whatever it takes to get yourself some help?

Now his whole family and all of his loved ones have to be put through this while he doesn't.
 
I understand having problems, hell everyone has problems, but when you have family and people who love you dearly, it should be a duty to never stop seeking help.

We understand more about mental illness now than ever before, so why wouldn't you do whatever it takes to get yourself some help?

Now his whole family and all of his loved ones have to be put through this while he doesn't.
On a level I agree with you. In fact, total truth, what kept me from doing it once was the thought "I'll break my mother's heart". More recently it was "I can't hurt my husband like that".

My former SIL committed suicide 12 years ago. Her mother found her body. Her husband pretty much gets drunk nightly and rehashes that day, the grief is still there and he keeps asking "why". IMHO if you're going to off yourself intentionally at least have the courtesy to leave some sort of note.

I don't think selfish is the right word, though. You just get so lost you can't see how important you are to those who love you, or you convince yourself they'll really be better off without your bullshit.

And as for not seeking help, you men are great ones for that, especially for something as sissified as admitting you need help with your feelings and emotions :whatever:
 
there's many scenarios that could lead me to off myself and I don't give a rat's ass who approves.

I'm knot about "fighting the brave fight" once you've reached a point of no return


fuck that





please respond
 
Robin Williams made me laugh as hard as any comedian. He could do that and then play some really great serious roles. The amazing thing was he would take all parts, small or big, and be equally as amazing at all of them. From the Genie on Aladdin, to Patch Adams, to the creepy dude on One Hour Photo - he nailed all the parts.

His Robin Williams on Broadway was the funniest stand up comedy I have ever seen. He was just brilliant - he jumped from different race, religion, to nationalities and offended everyone in the process. If you want to see comic genius, watch that performance.

Hate to see he couldn't get past his demons. Just can't ever understand suicide but I will not judge.
 
"Money can't buy happiness"

For those that have experienced a true depressive state will understand. Those that haven't, will not.


I had a friend kill himself. He battled terrible depression and headaches for years. He tried to get help. He even told his parents that he couldn't go on any longer and was going to end his own misery but wished he could have been helped instead. He wanted to get better, he cried out for help and in the end he felt there was no hope left and killed himself.

Truly sad case. He was a great guy.


if you think money and happiness are exclusive, you simply aren't spending it right.
 
Woot, what is it that divorce took away from you? Can you tell me what you are missing now that you had before?


I just blamed myself for it, I was cheated on but why? Obviously I felt I failed and that killed me and took a huge part of my life away.
 
there's many scenarios that could lead me to off myself and I don't give a rat's ass who approves.

I'm knot about "fighting the brave fight" once you've reached a point of no return


fuck that





please respond
From my perspective (spiritually/philosophically) this life is about personal responsibility. We own our shit and accept the consequences of our actions or inaction, etc. So from my personal perspective the only entity you truly owe an "explanation" to (for lack of a better word) is your own divine self (as opposed to some external being, i.e., God). IOW, checking yourself out can be a perfectly acceptable solution to a hopeless (terminal/chronic/debilitating) situation. I'm all for medically assisted suicide. NOBODY has the right to tell you that you should continue to live when there's no hope of things improving. We deserve at least as good as we give our pets.

Things get messy when mental illness or substances and their possible abuse enter into the picture, unfortunately.

This out of the blue suicide shit, though? Seriously, the survivors beat the hell out of themselves saying "what could I have done differently?" "what did/didn't I say?" Just leave a note for crying out loud. Doesn't have to be fancy. Something like what George Sanders left (after taking five bottles of barbiturates in Barcelona):

“Dear World, I am leaving because I am bored. I feel I have lived long enough. I am leaving you with your worries in this sweet cesspool. Good luck.”

Sad, but you have to admire his style, and at least nobody is left wondering if there is something they ought to have done.
 
if you think money and happiness are exclusive, you simply aren't spending it right.

Lol I hope you're trolling bro.

Having tons of fancy cars, a huge house, boats, bling, etc doesn't mean you'll be happy.

Having money does mean you don't need to stress over financial problems. Eliminating that can definitely make life less stressful but possessions will never make a person truly happy.
 
Lol I hope you're trolling bro.

Having tons of fancy cars, a huge house, boats, bling, etc doesn't mean you'll be happy.

Having money does mean you don't need to stress over financial problems. Eliminating that can definitely make life less stressful but possessions will never make a person truly happy.

Did I say anything about buying fancy cars, houses, bling etc?


Re-read my post you illiterate piece of hippo shit.
 
I could go on for hours about depression, all I can say is that it exists and I've battled with it..divorce really took away part of my life. Sure, I met a better person but it was more about my kids than anything. Some people just deal with it better or hide it quite well..anyways, rip Robin, you will be missed..very sad that you could make people feel so good, but then couldn't help yourself..

Well said woot. Sucks he had so many demons that drove him to this ending guy hasn't been in many movies and his sitcom with Sarah Michelle Geller just got canceled so he might have been feeling down even in his professional life. Sad.
 
Lol I hope you're trolling bro.

Having tons of fancy cars, a huge house, boats, bling, etc doesn't mean you'll be happy.

Having money does mean you don't need to stress over financial problems. Eliminating that can definitely make life less stressful but possessions will never make a person truly happy.

Happiness is knowing you have teh whole Amish community behind you!
 
It's difficult to convey empathy in this situation (at least for me). Somewhere along the way my brain...my empathy turns to sympathy and sometimes judgement. I can't feel it with them and I cannot understand. My empathy doesn't reach far enough. I can try but it stops short. I'm not equipped to deal with it. I don't have the skills. It's impossible to get close to someone knowing...you know. It just makes it worse all around on everyone. I'm sure that person would feel more alone and misunderstood with someone like me trying to help.
 
It's difficult to convey empathy in this situation (at least for me). Somewhere along the way my brain...my empathy turns to sympathy and sometimes judgement. I can't feel it with them and I cannot understand. My empathy doesn't reach far enough. I can try but it stops short. I'm not equipped to deal with it. I don't have the skills. It's impossible to get close to someone knowing...you know. It just makes it worse all around on everyone. I'm sure that person would feel more alone and misunderstood with someone like me trying to help.

Holy fucking tl;dr
 
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