The Rat is ready

[FitnessSeattle]

A recomp begins, feedback is appreciated
54 y.o
5'11'
185 lbs LBM
20% BF

Recomp stack
GW
LGD
S4
T2
L-Leucine
Creatine
Frag 176-191
CJC 1295 With DAC
Pramipex

post cycle:
DAA
Letrizole
Original Novedex XT

Goal:
%10 BF
200 LBM

Work:
Full body HST eod
Morning fasted 30 min cardio walk ed

Thoughts and feedback welcome

 

[stevesmi]

I like what you are doing for your cycle but your pct needs work. you are gonna piss away gains very fast using letro in pct.

 

[FitnessSeattle]

My bad, its Toremifene, not letro, and perhaps I could add MK to the PCT, note that I can only handle 25mg of s4, I almost went blind on 50

 

[dylangemelli]

definitely add mk to your pct... SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators... their s4 is potent so you need to follow my dosing protocol on it... How to properly dose S4... The Dylan Gemelli Method

take advantage of the buy 2 get 1 free at sarms1

 

[FitnessSeattle]

Thanks Dylan, Steve
S4 ; I followed 50MG per day for three weeks, and got severe sides (a pitch black spot in the center of my vision the size of a cantaloupe at arms length) that took 8 days to clear up. I'll work my way up slower this time as S4 feels so great.

 

[Elvia1023]

At your stats I think it is beyond overkill. You would be best starting with CJC-DAC and 1 SARM. Then after time introduce the other elements as you progress and hit plateaus. Just throwing in everything at once is completely unneeded.

How do you plan to dose the Frag? Most people waste frag as they don't use it correctly. Why are you taking prami?

A recomp begins, feedback is appreciated
54 y.o
5'11'
185 lbs LBM
20% BF

Recomp stack
GW
LGD
S4
T2
L-Leucine
Creatine
Frag 176-191
CJC 1295 With DAC
Pramipex

post cycle:
DAA
Letrizole
Original Novedex XT

Goal:
%10 BF
200 LBM

Work:
Full body HST eod
Morning fasted 30 min cardio walk ed

Thoughts and feedback welcome

 

[Shrine1]

Thanks Dylan, Steve
S4 ; I followed 50MG per day for three weeks, and got severe sides (a pitch black spot in the center of my vision the size of a cantaloupe at arms length) that took 8 days to clear up. I'll work my way up slower this time as S4 feels so great.

Yeah.. just be sure and go slow with the dosing. If you need to just go 5 on 2 off if it starts to get really bad. Sarms1 S4 is potent for sure. I didn't start seeing sides personally until i got up to 80mg ED

 

[FitnessSeattle]

Great question, and you could be right, thanks for the feedback
Prami is for restless leg syndrome, and a nice GH spike at night,
frag is for fasted morning cardio, wont eat until noon.
LDG is for maintaining or gaining mass whilst cutting, as S4 would probably work on its own but I have to keep the dosage low.
the dietary amino etc. are just what I always take.
I'm in a hurry to drop 20 lbs of fat asap. (I have my reasons, social event) without stimulants
If I could simply not eat anything at all for a month I would do it if I didn't get sick, but I'm 54...

 

[jb2012ny]

That goal does not look realistic with that stack..good luck tho

 

[FitnessSeattle]

Perhaps not, but its a goal, aim for the stars to hit the moon right?

Frankly, if I were to maintain current LBM and drop 20 lbs it would still look great.

Maybe several cycles in one year would get me there, but cutting is obviously top priority at this point.

I think Lyle Mac's rapid fat loss diet is the key here, I'll attempt to lose a LB a day of fat for a few weeks...

One pound of fat could contain anywhere around 2,843 and 3,752 calories, human fat tissue can be 87% to 72% lipid
My BMR resting is around 2033.4 KCals so I could lose about 5 lbs a week fat if I only ate Protein and just a bit fish-oil , not counting water loss.

 

[Elvia1023]

Great question, and you could be right, thanks for the feedback
Prami is for restless leg syndrome, and a nice GH spike at night,
frag is for fasted morning cardio, wont eat until noon.
LDG is for maintaining or gaining mas whilst cutting, as S4 would probably work but I have to keep the dosage low.
the dietary amino etc. are just what I always take.
I'm in a hurry to drop 20 lbs of fat asap. (I have my reasons) without stimulants
If I could simply not eat anything at all for a month I would do it if I didn't get sick, but I'm 54...

I asked about the prami as I seen no reason for taking it. But if you suffer from RLS then better than most reasons you see on the forums for using it (btw I love prami). The gh boost will be great too

That's good that you won't eat before noon on the frag (longer would even be better). I would try and get abit more fat burning going than just a 30min walk for cardio... try some interval training too.

I can't fault you for taking aminos... they are great. It was just all the peps and sarms together. I would honestly save some for future use. Your goal of 15 pounds of muscle is over the top but you know that (you don't want a goal easy to achieve). I would look at just getting your bodyfat to 10% and maintaining muscle and hoping adding a few pounds but not 15!

Rush or not the cjc-dac, frag and LGD would be enough imo if your diet and training is 100%. You obviously aren't eating right if you are at 20% now and it's not just the amount of food that is important. Although if you want to lose weight fast you would have to lower your daily cals a lot.... it's not ideal but with the right guidance you could do great. Keep us posted on your results

 

[FitnessSeattle]

Thanks Elvia1023
I wish I could upload a current pic but it keeps failing.

Intervals; they are hard to do in a near starvation state, perhaps I'll do 60 min walks instead as Ill also be doing full body lifting EOD as well.

 

[Shrine1]

You need to get your macros in check if you really need to drop bf.. what kind of diet are you doing?

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[FitnessSeattle]

I agree
make them as close to this hypothetical as possible:

per day:
180g protein
50g carb (And fiber)
only fat is fishoil
magnesium and potassium supp.

Protein Sparing Modified Fast (PSMF), PSMF is nothing, and I mean nothing, except for adequate protein to stave off muscle loss, fibrous veggies, and essential fats. Period.

 

[Shrine1]

You shouldn't have to much muscle loss if any running the sarms. Matter of fact, I would definitely be in caloric deficit, and lower your carbs and you should see some great results with that.

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[FitnessSeattle]

A few notes.
CJC DAC makes me super hungry
Frag also makes me super hungry
I can see how bulking would be easy with this

I had to take a break because both are making my belly skin inflamed with lumps underneath, could I be using too much BAC, stretching my skin too much or what?

frag comes in a 5mg, cjc 2mg how much bac should I be using with this?
how long does frag and cjc last refrigerated once reconstituted in bac?

cheers