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New to the site as well as steroids here. I have worked with some prohormones but not Test E. I recieved a prescription for Test E for the typical reasons from my doctor, ie: no sex drive, mood swings, feeling sluggish etc. I am a regular weight lifter done solely for appearance and have a pretty good physique now. I just figured beings I was getting put on Test E for the other reasons I would use it to my advantage to put on more muscle. I'm 42 yrs old, 5'8" 155 lbs. and although I can stand to put on some weight I don't want to get too big with water retention. I keep seeing that Arimidex is maybe what I should take as well to keep away bloat and help with any estrogen issues. I see the doctor today for explination on self administering so I'm not sure how many mg's they're going to recommend. What is a good amount to stay and assist in being shredded versus bulking? Any advice on this first time use at all would be greatly appreciated.
 
New to the site as well as steroids here. I have worked with some prohormones but not Test E. I recieved a prescription for Test E for the typical reasons from my doctor, ie: no sex drive, mood swings, feeling sluggish etc. I am a regular weight lifter done solely for appearance and have a pretty good physique now. I just figured beings I was getting put on Test E for the other reasons I would use it to my advantage to put on more muscle. I'm 42 yrs old, 5'8" 155 lbs. and although I can stand to put on some weight I don't want to get too big with water retention. I keep seeing that Arimidex is maybe what I should take as well to keep away bloat and help with any estrogen issues. I see the doctor today for explination on self administering so I'm not sure how many mg's they're going to recommend. What is a good amount to stay and assist in being shredded versus bulking? Any advice on this first time use at all would be greatly appreciated.

If your on test for TRT reasons there is no reason to add a bunch of stuff, especially at your size. You can easily add plenty of mass slowly and steadily while on TRT and then you dont have to worry about all the possible sides by increasing the dose.
 
Thank you for the reply. Do you think I should invest in an estrogen blocker? Arimidex? Also how many mg's a week do you think would suffice for what I'm after? Would 250-300 mg do anything? My script comes in 1000mg and I'm thinking the doctor is thuinking that should l;ast me a month. I keep seeing 500 mgs? your advice?

What exactly is it you have and what did the doc prescribe? What I was recommending was to just run the TRT dose your doc gave you, this is usually 100-150mg/wk which should put your test levels in the 700-900 range which is plenty for someone to add mass, especially someone your size.

Adex is usually required on TRT and definatly at higher test doses BUT lab work will tell you what you need to know.



FYI, I pulled this out of other thread, not polite to hijack other folks threads.
 
I'd get aromasin from ag guys will keep water retention down and Estrogen in check. . Run 12.5mg eod or e3d depending on dose from dr.. Be nice to get 250 - 350mg weekly
 
Well my test level when blood was tested was 170. Which is somewhat low. The doc prescribed testosterone enanthate 1000mg/5mL (200mg/ml). The script says inject 200mg once monthly. Can that be right? That wouldn't even do anything would it? For my low test or for muscle growth. I had 11 refills but the pharmacy said they can only give 5 per prescription beings it's a controlled substance. Anyway, I work it regularly but would like to put on some lean muscle. I have a pretty strict diet and to add to what I already have and stay shredded is what I'm after. Just curious on mg I should take and any estrogen blockers etc. Thanks again for replying.
 
Well my test level when blood was tested was 170. Which is somewhat low. The doc prescribed testosterone enanthate 1000mg/5mL (200mg/ml). The script says inject 200mg once monthly. Can that be right? That wouldn't even do anything would it? For my low test or for muscle growth. I had 11 refills but the pharmacy said they can only give 5 per prescription beings it's a controlled substance. Anyway, I work it regularly but would like to put on some lean muscle. I have a pretty strict diet and to add to what I already have and stay shredded is what I'm after. Just curious on mg I should take and any estrogen blockers etc. Thanks again for replying.

Yea, thats a messed up dose. Your gonna need 100mg/wk (1 weekly injection of a half CC).

Where you need to be careful is you cant just go using up all the test in a month on a cycle when the doc expects it to last you months. You burn through what he gave you fast and he wont write a script for more.

What you really need to do is sit down with the doc and get on the same page.
 
Thanks again for the reply. My script is good for 5 refills and must b used by November. But at 100mg a week does that mean I have 10 uses per vial? With my 5 refills by November I will b good for 250mg a week if I'm thinking right? One vial 1000mg per vial. I'll update this after I go into my appt here in a minute. I certainly want to pin enough to make it worth it. Also can I do it bi weekly with double dose to save on pin dimples?
 
Yeah so the doctor is trying to say I should pin 200mg a month. I have a consultation with him next week so I can tell him that all that week do is make my levels rise and fall isn't that correct? Won't really do me any good will it?
 
Thanks again for the reply. My script is good for 5 refills and must b used by November. But at 100mg a week does that mean I have 10 uses per vial? With my 5 refills by November I will b good for 250mg a week if I'm thinking right? One vial 1000mg per vial. I'll update this after I go into my appt here in a minute. I certainly want to pin enough to make it worth it. Also can I do it bi weekly with double dose to save on pin dimples?

I assume your vials are 10ml, 100mg per/ml. Honestly I would not jump to 250mg a week. If this is all new to you and you plan on being on TRT for the rest of your life you need to get on the same page as your doc and figure this all out. If you just go off on your own and start upping the dose you may have unexpected sides, like high estrogen. Im guessing he didnt give you an aromatase inhibitor because the test dose he prescribed is so low.


Yeah so the doctor is trying to say I should pin 200mg a month. I have a consultation with him next week so I can tell him that all that week do is make my levels rise and fall isn't that correct? Won't really do me any good will it?

Yes, your test levels will peter off and crash after 10 days or so, assuming you have cyp or enth you just need a single weekly injection of 100mg. Get labs done after a few weeks to see where test and estrogen levels are. The best health benefits come when test levels on TRT are over 550 and E levels are in the 20-30 range. On 100mg week test you may need .5 mg anastrozole (adex) 2x a week to keep estrogen where ya want it.

We are starting to see a bunch of ambulance chasing lawyers going after docs for prescribing TRT because people on TRT are having all sorts of problems and some studies even support the nonsense BUT the studies, just like docs like yours dont know what they are doing. The biggest mistakes docs make when prescribing test is....

Not using enough test to put men at high normal range

Not using an AI and allowing E to get to high.

Using too much AI and killing E too much.

Its critical for men to have E between 20-30 pg/ml. Men with elevated E increase the risk of death exponentially.
 
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