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What else do you take with dbol?

Take test with everything. some say they run other compounds without test, to me it is stupid. dbol will shut you down
 
Take test with everything. some say they run other compounds without test, to me it is stupid. dbol will shut you down

First: How exactly is it stupid, being that Test can actually be counterproductive, especially when running a high dose of an androgen like Tren?
Second: "dbol will shut you down", but you're saying "Take test with everything". Are you implying exogenous testosterone ISN'T going to shut you down?

There is no need to take Test with everything, and there are plenty of veteran logs here that easily prove that.
 
First: How exactly is it stupid, being that Test can actually be counterproductive, especially when running a high dose of an androgen like Tren?
Second: "dbol will shut you down", but you're saying "Take test with everything". Are you implying exogenous testosterone ISN'T going to shut you down?

There is no need to take Test with everything, and there are plenty of veteran logs here that easily prove that.


I'm no professional, but all the vets on every board i've ever been on have said always run test with any stack, even if it's a low trt dose. This is the first board I have ever been on where people advise cycles without test. I do know a guy who runs shit without test, he actually hates running test, well up until about 6 months ago when i gave him some and he was still able to fk while on deca. I don't know shit about tren, never ran it, have no desire to at this time, but I just know what I have been told for the past 2 years. There was a few articles on a few other boards about this topic actually. I know everyone reacts differently, but personally I'm not running anything without test. Not saying you are wrong by any means. I'd love to hear more about this and how people react to cycles without test.
 
I'm no professional, but all the vets on every board i've ever been on have said always run test with any stack, even if it's a low trt dose. This is the first board I have ever been on where people advise cycles without test. I do know a guy who runs shit without test, he actually hates running test, well up until about 6 months ago when i gave him some and he was still able to fk while on deca. I don't know shit about tren, never ran it, have no desire to at this time, but I just know what I have been told for the past 2 years. There was a few articles on a few other boards about this topic actually. I know everyone reacts differently, but personally I'm not running anything without test. Not saying you are wrong by any means. I'd love to hear more about this and how people react to cycles without test.

Speaking personally, I've only ever run orals without test, never an injectable. I've run Tbol, Winny, Anadrol, Beastdrol, Helladrol, Katanadrol, Epi-Strong, and a host of others (some solo, others combined). I've run low dose Dbol once, and I am not a fan of wet compounds. Will probably never run another wet compound again.

I made excellent gains on all of the above listed; usually 4-10lbs of lean muscle and reduction in body fat (depending on the cycle), keeping 90% or better of all my gains. PCT and recovery were a breeze, using only Unleashed, Post Cycle, and HCGenerate. I do not believe in PCTing a drug with more drugs, and always run blood work, so I know that particular PCT works for me.

Beastdrol however, was the worst! The lethargy was horrible, and I salute and bow down to anyone that can make it through a 4 week run with no test base! My subsequent run I used RS-Transaderm as a test base, and it was literally a night and day difference.

Maybe it's not for everyone, but early on when I was reluctant to pin, orals only were a staple for me. I wasn't looking for crazy gains, and was happy with what I got out of it. Obviously Test would have amplified these gains immensely, but I'm proof that test isn't required in a cycle.
 
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