My 3rd cycle what do you think?

[castroaj]

1-16 test e @ 300mg
1-14 eq @ 600mg
((2-15 Proviron 50mg day)))((((I M NOT SURE IF I SHOULD USE IT OR NOT )))
12-19 var @ 80 mg ed
17-19 test p 100mg eod
3-19 AI e3d armidex 0.05
pct 3 days after last test p shot.

PCT
clomid-50-50-50-50
Forma Stanzol 4 weeks ed
Natural testerone 2 serving 4 weeks ed
Osta for 6 weeks ed


I am 27 this will be my 3rd cycle , i ham 250 LB .6.2 and goal cutting and gaining lean weight

 

[joeblow12345]

I'd go.

1-16 test 300 mg week
1-16 eq 600 mg week
12-20 var 80 mg day
12-20 proviron 50 mg day
12-24 n2guard
8-12 hcgenerate
16-20 hcg
1-20 adex as needed

Pct 20-26
Clomid
Post cycle/ unleashed
Forma
Osta

26-30 bridge and dspark

There's no need for prop at all, just run the orals up to the end. If your set on using it then kick off with it at 50 mg 3 xs a week and 150 mg test e then at week 5-6 just run straight test e from then on.

 

[castroaj]

thanks man

i always tried to avoid hcg because it gives me big confusion.

but if there is no anyway and using it is important , please let me know what dosage i have to take ..

about proviron and using anvar some other forum was saying u should avoid them both at same cycle because its DHT , is this true

I'd go.

1-16 test 300 mg week
1-16 eq 600 mg week
12-20 var 80 mg day
12-20 proviron 50 mg day
12-24 n2guard
8-12 hcgenerate
16-20 hcg
1-20 adex as needed

Pct 20-26
Clomid
Post cycle/ unleashed
Forma
Osta

26-30 bridge and dspark

There's no need for prop at all, just run the orals up to the end. If your set on using it then kick off with it at 50 mg 3 xs a week and 150 mg test e then at week 5-6 just run straight test e from then on.

 

[Jbranken]

Proviron and anavar are an awesome combo

 

[NegroPops]

I'd go like this:

Cycle:

1-16 Test E 300 mg/week
1-16 EQ 600 mg/week
9-18 Anavar 80 mg/day

1-18 Adex .25 mg eod
1-18 Proviron 50 mg ed

4-16 HCGenerate
9-18 N2Guard

PCT:

15-16 HCG 250 iu twice per week
17-18 HCG 500 iu twice per week

19-22 Clomid 25/25/25/25
19-22 Forma Stanzol
19-22 Unleashed/Post Cycle
19-22 D-AA
19-22 Osta 25 mg/day

There is no reason to run prop at the end. 300 mg a Test E will should not bloat you, and the anavar at the end will keep your hormones elevated the last couple weeks going into pct.

Yes, anavar and proviron are both DHT. That does not mean you should not use them together. A lot of people stack winny and mast, or primo and mast, or primo and var.. ect. Proviron is very light and will help make the other steroids, especially test and EQ more effective.. since those are both test bases. It will also help a little with estorgen. I run it with all cycles unless I am running Mast. And since it is very mild on the liver, it is fine to stack with another oral.. especially anavar.

There are different ways to use HCG. I think the base way is to use it starting a few weeks before PCT. This will give your testes a little kick start and may make transitioning into recovery a little more easy. I usually go 250 iu twice per week starting 4 weeks from PCT.. then bump those dose to 500 iu twice per week for the last 2. Running something like HCGenerate (a natty test booster that is designed specifically for steroid induced testicular atrophy) on cycle will also help.

 

[joeblow12345]

thanks man

i always tried to avoid hcg because it gives me big confusion.

but if there is no anyway and using it is important , please let me know what dosage i have to take ..

about proviron and using anvar some other forum was saying u should avoid them both at same cycle because its DHT , is this true

For the hcg I'd go 500 ius eod. Some go higher or lower but I feel that's an optimal dose. And var and proviron are great together. A lot of people say a lot of shit and most don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. They regurgitate bs info they have heard somewhere. I actually have real world experience with these drugs and I give advice based on my experience with them. Experience is the only true way to know what works and what doesn't.

 

[castroaj]

For the hcg I'd go 500 ius eod. Some go higher or lower but I feel that's an optimal dose. And var and proviron are great together. A lot of people say a lot of shit and most don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. They regurgitate bs info they have heard somewhere. I actually have real world experience with these drugs and I give advice based on my experience with them. Experience is the only true way to know what works and what doesn't.

Thanks bruh for advice , i wish i knew about this forum earlier instead asking and begging ppl for info on other forums .

Is there anything else you may think that can be good combo to add on this cycle ...( My Goal is competing for Arnold Classic before age 30 i m 27 now , and im very serious about it )
thanks

 

[NegroPops]

you want to compete in the arnold classic in 3 years?

I would throw in some Tren, HGH, and insulin.. and other peptides like IGF and GHRP. Throw out your PCT because you will no longer be coming off. Just blasting and cruising.

 

[NegroPops]

That is all sarcasm by the way.. don't actually do that

 

[joeblow12345]

That is all sarcasm by the way.. don't actually do that

It may be sarcastic but its the truth. Even with all that at drastically high doses of everything the chances of competing in the Arnold classic are slim for most. And op if you are serious and have the genetic potential then don't bother coming off ever. You don't stand a chance if you do. Those guys are running several grams a week of gear year round with pharm grade hgh and ridiculous amounts of slin, peptides, synthol, and anything else you can think of.

 

[castroaj]

It may be sarcastic but its the truth. Even with all that at drastically high doses of everything the chances of competing in the Arnold classic are slim for most. And op if you are serious and have the genetic potential then don't bother coming off ever. You don't stand a chance if you do. Those guys are running several grams a week of gear year round with pharm grade hgh and ridiculous amounts of slin, peptides, synthol, and anything else you can think of.

Yeah i understand how strong competition is but i have strong mindset which i really believe i can handle it , i am 260 6.2 at this time ...
I have very little info about juices that's why i m trying to educated myself on this matter ,
Bruh i really wanna do it and that's what i wanna do as profession in my life so please tell me according to my goal if my next cycle is fine or i should add some other combo on it

thanks

 

[bonacris]

While 260 at 6ft 2 is massive these guys are 260 at 5ft 9.. this is pro level

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[CrazyBeautifulMechelle]

Height is a major factor...

 

[NegroPops]

Your cycle layout is excellent, especially for a second cycle. It is hard to layout a more advanced cycle because I don't know if you are ready for it. I remember you wanting to use tren a few weeks ago. So I would add that in. Also you want to look into HGH and Insulin.. but don't even think about using them until you fully understand them. Also you will have to think about the idea of never coming off and being on TRT.

Here is a nice little cycle layout with the addition of Tren and Masteron.

1-16 Test E 300 mg/week
1-16 EQ 600 mg/week
8-17 Tren Ace 100 mg/eod
8-17 Mast Prop 150 mg/eod

 

[Jbranken]

Yeah i understand how strong competition is but i have strong mindset which i really believe i can handle it , i am 260 6.2 at this time ...
I have very little info about juices that's why i m trying to educated myself on this matter ,
Bruh i really wanna do it and that's what i wanna do as profession in my life so please tell me according to my goal if my next cycle is fine or i should add some other combo on it

thanks

I think your stats are incredible having only run two cycles.Try to add in a little more each cycle but, just a little. This will take you a long way in cycling or even blasting and cruising. You'll achieve much more in terms of gains in the long run rather than trying to add tons of compounds at high doses so early in your cycling career and saturating your receptors to the point where only higher doses each time will satisfy. You may not reach your goal in 3 years time but eventually you may

 

[castroaj]

I think your stats are incredible having only run two cycles.Try to add in a little more each cycle but, just a little. This will take you a long way in cycling or even blasting and cruising. You'll achieve much more in terms of gains in the long run rather than trying to add tons of compounds at high doses so early in your cycling career and saturating your receptors to the point where only higher doses each time will satisfy. You may not reach your goal in 3 years time but eventually you may

thanks for comment man i m kind of thinking winy too but i m not sure if i can add it on this cycle or not ...

 

[castroaj]

I'd go.

1-16 test 300 mg week
1-16 eq 600 mg week
12-20 var 80 mg day
12-20 proviron 50 mg day
12-24 n2guard
8-12 hcgenerate
16-20 hcg
1-20 adex as needed

Pct 20-26
Clomid
Post cycle/ unleashed
Forma
Osta

26-30 bridge and dspark

There's no need for prop at all, just run the orals up to the end. If your set on using it then kick off with it at 50 mg 3 xs a week and 150 mg test e then at week 5-6 just run straight test e from then on.

Bruh is there anywhere on this cycle that i can add or replace winny on it ...

thanks

 

[Jbranken]

You could start with var and finish with winny if that's the route you want to take. Something like: var 1-8 80mg, winny 16-20 50mg.

 

[joeblow12345]

You could start with var and finish with winny if that's the route you want to take. Something like: var 1-8 80mg, winny 16-20 50mg.

Ya this will work. You also have to understand that this is a normal lifters cycle and not close to what a pro would take. I think its a good start but if your serious about competing at a pro level there is no more pct or coming off. That is time you can't afford to waste. You should also be seeking out a nutritionist and trainer to help guide you with diet, training, and pro level drug use. I do suggest you gradually increase the drugs over time but your gonna need someone to guide you every step of the way who can monitor you on a regular basis and keep you somewhat safe.

 

[castroaj]

Ya this will work. You also have to understand that this is a normal lifters cycle and not close to what a pro would take. I think its a good start but if your serious about competing at a pro level there is no more pct or coming off. That is time you can't afford to waste. You should also be seeking out a nutritionist and trainer to help guide you with diet, training, and pro level drug use. I do suggest you gradually increase the drugs over time but your gonna need someone to guide you every step of the way who can monitor you on a regular basis and keep you somewhat safe.

Thanks man

I m right now researching more about Blast and Cruise and find out how and what should i take !
Could you tell me please if i wanna do Blast and Cruise for very similar cycle , what should i consider and with what dosage i should take ...

thanks

 

[castroaj]

You could start with var and finish with winny if that's the route you want to take. Something like: var 1-8 80mg, winny 16-20 50mg.

Yeah man i will consider that, but now im strongly thinking about doing Blast and cruise .
I am sorry guys for confusion but it seems this is what i need to do to achieve my goal .