2nd cycle..competing..cycle change

[quadsbrah]

22 5years training. 175 been dieting for 4 weeka now, first cycle was test only at 400mg for 10weeks.

Competing in physique, i have a diet coach so things are good

heres my proposed 2nd cycle

test e 1-8 500mg
Test p 9-12 100 eod
Mast p 7-12 ..125 eod

I kinda wanna change things to the cycle below.... Keep in mind im 13 weeks out ...

test e 1-8 250mg
Mast p 3-8 125 eod
Tren a 3-7 50mg EOD

Reason being i wanna run low dose test just so ill have some test, tren at 200mg seem too low ? ...basically I dont want to run aromatizing.compounds for too long...does cycle 2 make sense ?

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[quadsbrah]

This is me last week, i def. Lost some mass cutting down natty lol
My first and last cycle finished in feb..pct finiahed in march...
I just wanna get stupid shredded with the leeeeeast amount of drugs..and dw my diet is hardcore strict/legit
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[rustilldown]

This is me last week, i def. Lost some mass cutting down natty lol
My first and last cycle finished in feb..pct finiahed in march...
I just wanna get stupid shredded with the leeeeeast amount of drugs..and dw my diet is hardcore strict/legit
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Nothing wrong with cycle 2, your doses are more than sensible and you seem to have a solid approach. 175 Mgs of tren will work with minimal sides. I'd personally even add anavar but that's just me. Anavar 40mgs/day all the way through

 

[RickRock13]

I like number two as well. Should work great for prep, and I would agree that adding in some var wouldn't be a bad idea either.

 

[warrior08]

Would the gains still be good off 50mg eod of tren? I never used but have 4 bottle laying around. And I prepping for a comp too!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Well, I'd never do tren so I'll leave that advice to the others. But I think you need to get your bf lower otherwise you'll be wasting the mast.

 

[quadsbrah]

My quest. Being IS there a point in doing 250mg test..i say point as in why get surpressed for just 250mg right?

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[quadsbrah]

Yea bro sounds good, i kinda wanted to throw in some winny but scared about my hair lol so ill throw in some var then

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[RickRock13]

My quest. Being IS there a point in doing 250mg test..i say point as in why get surpressed for just 250mg right?

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You are going to be suppressed from the other compounds anyways, so that shouldn't be the issue with running the test. It may not be absolutely necessary, but a lot of people will run at least a typical TRT dose of test (100-200mg per week) to keep libido and energy up.

 

[rustilldown]

You are going to be suppressed from the other compounds anyways, so that shouldn't be the issue with running the test. It may not be absolutely necessary, but a lot of people will run at least a typical TRT dose of test (100-200mg per week) to keep libido and energy up.

Thjs^ and if you want even less water weight hell just take 125 Mgs of test. It's enough to replace what you make naturally, plus the masteron will be helping with your " free test" levels so if anything you may feel an even better sex drive. Hell one the my best feeling runs was 125 Mgs test e, with 350 Mgs masteron e and helladrol. Energetic horny happy and aggressive when needed.

 

[quadsbrah]

Thjs^ and if you want even less water weight hell just take 125 Mgs of test. It's enough to replace what you make naturally, plus the masteron will be helping with your " free test" levels so if anything you may feel an even better sex drive. Hell one the my best feeling runs was 125 Mgs test e, with 350 Mgs masteron e and helladrol. Energetic horny happy and aggressive when needed.

Thanks brah..i thought like youre risking your health and shutting down natty test for 250mg...read online that its not worth it and if youre gonna shut your natty test might as well do something like 500+

but 250 seems plenty..what are your thoughts on 200mg tren a for a forst timer?

cycle now
test E 250mg 1-8
tren A 50mg 3-7
mast p 125mg eod ...will start when bf is ready
Var 1-8 40 and build up to 80mg last week
aromasin 12.5 eod
caber for tren


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[rustilldown]

Thanks brah..i thought like youre risking your health and shutting down natty test for 250mg...read online that its not worth it and if youre gonna shut your natty test might as well do something like 500+

but 250 seems plenty..what are your thoughts on 200mg tren a for a forst timer?

cycle now
test E 250mg 1-8
tren A 50mg 3-7
mast p 125mg eod ...will start when bf is ready
Var 1-8 40 and build up to 80mg last week
aromasin 12.5 eod
caber for tren


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200 Mgs tren a is fine, but it's actually 175 Mgs if your doing 50 eod. Also. Run your mast from the beginning, it's mild at that dose, and it has more benefits that are still notable even if bf is still a little higher. Everyone says masteron is a waste if bf isn't single digits, well yes, you may not notice the hardness and vascularity as much, but it still binds to shbg, therefore making your testosterone more effective, and helps reduce water weight, increase sex drive and aggression

 

[rustilldown]

200 Mgs tren a is fine, but it's actually 175 Mgs if your doing 50 eod. Also. Run your mast from the beginning, it's mild at that dose, and it has more benefits that are still notable even if bf is still a little higher. Everyone says masteron is a waste if bf isn't single digits, well yes, you may not notice the hardness and vascularity as much, but it still binds to shbg, therefore making your testosterone more effective, and helps reduce water weight, increase sex drive and aggression

And I wouldn't be worried about the test shutting you down, tren and anavar already have that covered, all 500 Mgs of test is going to do is add more water weight

 

[MattJS]

I like cycle 2 better, 250mgs of test is definitely enough for good gains or 125mgs is fine if you're happy to rely on tren for gains, 50mg is definitely enough if your tren is dosed correctly....

 

[quadsbrah]

Alright guys thanks... Just a question about hairloss (im prone) doing test tren and mast would KILL my hair right ? im thinking of dropping one

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[MattJS]

Only one way to find out mate! I've had a receding hairline since late teens and no AAS tren and mast included has ever made it noticeably worse but that doesn't mean the same thing will happen for you... All you can do is find out the hard way, if you want to err on the side of caution NTBM has a shampoo which could help...

 

[quadsbrah]

Only one way to find out mate! I've had a receding hairline since late teens and no AAS tren and mast included has ever made it noticeably worse but that doesn't mean the same thing will happen for you... All you can do is find out the hard way, if you want to err on the side of caution NTBM has a shampoo which could help...

True everyone responds differently..i def shed a ton of hair on test only, started using nizrol shampoo that made it slightly better...guess well have to find out. man theres so many sacrifices to make...

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[RickRock13]

Alright guys thanks... Just a question about hairloss (im prone) doing test tren and mast would KILL my hair right ? im thinking of dropping one

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DHT derivative compounds are the worst on the hairline, so Masteron is going to be the worst in that department with what you are running.

 

[quadsbrah]

How in the fuck are all these MPD athletes walking around with full head of hair...im sure theyre def on winny or mast -.-

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[dylangemelli]

How in the fuck are all these MPD athletes walking around with full head of hair...im sure theyre def on winny or mast -.-

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We all respond different

 

[RickRock13]

How in the fuck are all these MPD athletes walking around with full head of hair...im sure theyre def on winny or mast -.-

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Some are not prone to hair issues (like me). I respond very well to DHT based compounds, and they are actually my favorites.

 

[quadsbrah]

Well cause im prone would this be an effective appraoch ..
test e 1-10 400mg
var 1-4 40mg
Mast 500mg 4-10
var 60-80 mg 6-10



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