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Its that time again... NEXT CYCLE... Looking for opinions...

dylangemelli

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Its that time for me again... The 2 week period before my next cycle... I am looking at a few things here and am looking for a few opinions...

Before I go any further, it is important to know and understand the goal here... I am preparing for something very important that is going to require me to "look good naked" literally for high pay... so it is imperative that i not put on too much more size but harden up even more that i am... of course i am going to want to add strength and a bit of size but i am not looking for 10-15 lbs... im looking more along the lines of 5-7 and keeping my body fat in the range it is which is currently 5.7%... That being said, I will NOT be using test on this cycle... its not conducent to my goals and it is not needed on every cyle... here's what i am thinking right now...

1-6 tbol 60-80 mg day
1-6 proviron 75 mg day
1-8 mast prop 150 mg eod

i really want to run winstrol and mast but i definitely can't have any hair issues going on here... i have never had hair problems before but it could be a little risky running the two together... i still have not decided... so its possible to substitute tbol with winstrol... i was also thinking even more simple and just running winstrol and katanadrol together but i really want to add masteron for the extra hardening and polishing... all thoughts welcome...
 
I like your plan, and based on your goals I think it would work very well. I would almost consider Anavar over Tbol too for a better polished and hard look. I absolutely loved Masteron, and I'm sure you will too so definitely keep that in there.

Good luck and keep us updated!
 
1- Please add test. Please. lol. A cycle without test is like a one-legged man in the regular olympics
2- I would switch up the tbol with anavar. It's a much better oral, plus I'm not a fan of tbol.
3- stay away from winstrol, too harsh on the joints.
4- run the proviron till the end of the cycle.
5- run the test 2 weeks more than the masteron. plus 8 weeks is not enough IMO
 
For a lean hard, "polished" cycle, I think it looks pretty good. Through winstrol will provide a dryer look than tbol.

No need or Test if the mast gives you libido. With some people it does, with some, it doesn't. Give it a few weeks and see. If you do need more test, go with Prop -- I'm not usually a fan of it, but it doesn't cause as much water retention as enth or cyp.
 
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thanks guys... all of your opinions are ones that i value highly...

rick... what did you dose mast at??

traz.... mast for only 8 weeks because its prop... i like the shorter cycles for quicker recovery... i ran anavar last cycle so i wanted to switch it up although i do love it...

nelson... i much prefer winstrol and mast but do you think i'll be cool on the hair with it? that's the only thing im concerned with...
 
Whats up buddy! Looks good, I would probably opt for Var as well and also just run Proviron throughout as well...you know what works for you bro, interested in what job you have lined up here...you can always just text me for anyother questions you have bro...always here for ya.

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thanks guys... all of your opinions are ones that i value highly...

rick... what did you dose mast at??

traz.... mast for only 8 weeks because its prop... i like the shorter cycles for quicker recovery... i ran anavar last cycle so i wanted to switch it up although i do love it...

nelson... i much prefer winstrol and mast but do you think i'll be cool on the hair with it? that's the only thing im concerned with...

Looks good to me. As long as mast is at min 400 wk ur good. Id also prob switch tbol for var but... Idk u ran that last cycle.

As far as winny why risk it play with it later I feel nows not the time you know ull look good anyway. Or buy some n2shampoo and take alot of b5

Primo
Mast
And provirion

Or tren? Oh, but this is your first inject? Youve ran best

Tren a
Mast p
Provrion

?????
 
Looks good to me. As long as mast is at min 400 wk ur good. Id also prob switch tbol for var but... Idk u ran that last cycle.

As far as winny why risk it play with it later I feel nows not the time you know ull look good anyway. Or buy some n2shampoo and take alot of b5

Primo
Mast
And provirion

Or tren? Oh, but this is your first inject? Youve ran best

Tren a
Mast p
Provrion

?????

Nice seeing you back bro!

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thanks guys... all of your opinions are ones that i value highly...

rick... what did you dose mast at??

traz.... mast for only 8 weeks because its prop... i like the shorter cycles for quicker recovery... i ran anavar last cycle so i wanted to switch it up although i do love it...

nelson... i much prefer winstrol and mast but do you think i'll be cool on the hair with it? that's the only thing im concerned with...

I ran Masteron at 500mg per week. I ran enanthate since my test was also enanthate. Hardness and vascularity were both the best I had ever seen it by far
 
thanks guys... all of your opinions are ones that i value highly...

rick... what did you dose mast at??

traz.... mast for only 8 weeks because its prop... i like the shorter cycles for quicker recovery... i ran anavar last cycle so i wanted to switch it up although i do love it...

nelson... i much prefer winstrol and mast but do you think i'll be cool on the hair with it? that's the only thing im concerned with...


They're both DHT derivitives. I find Mast harder on the hair. If you have a proclivity to it, u can get some shedding, but if the cycle isn't that long you should be alright.
 
Lmao its not a porno bro! Its a vegas thing... About 2 months


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Ooohhh, goin to da 9th Island to do dat porno, hey brah?
 
1-3 test e 400mg 2x/week
1-3 test p 100mg EOD
4-6 test p 75mg ED
1-5 tren a 50mg ED
1-5 mast p 50mg ED
5-7 tren a 75mg ED
8 tren a 100mg ED
5-8 mast p 75mg ED
6-7 winny 50mg ED

Take some dbol or adrol to Vegas with you, for however long you'll be there.

Start taking 100mg drol or 50mg dbol during the week you'll be there and take enough with you to continue it.

That's assuming you'll only be in Vegas a few days like most people, not a few weeks. I wouldn't run the drol or dbol for more than a week or two at most. It's just to put on some extra size while you're that lean. You'll look great.
 
Looks good bro, but I also would go with var. It's so much better for the look you go for. Winny could be hard on the hairline, but I think if you keep the mast at 400/wk or below you should be fine. The prop will allow you to stop immediately if you see any signs of shedding.

Katana could be a decent addition, but I don't see it needed with so many 'cutting' compounds already in use.
 
you don't need to look that good to do porn bro.

How much time do you have until the shoot?

11 posts before someone said something about porn, we must be getting old....

~EZ
 
I've run winny and mast together fo short periods with no hair issues <knock wood>

Agree with Traz in adding test tho...

~EZ
 
I like the cycle you have and the only thing I would consider is adding tren. Nothing Ive ever used can touch tren. If its possible for you to get any leaner, then tren and mast will do it.

NTBM REP
 
I just can't wait to see Dylan after this!!!!

I'm working on mine but just can't seem to get my dam test up! 😔 It's been 7 months and still not were I'm happy with it. That be what's you gets for joosen. 😈
 
the hardest I ever got was on proviron.. it acts fast too. did not bother my hair.

winny did mess up my hair worse than anything ever. but I did not run n2shampoo cause I assumed I would not have a problem, but i was wrong. and the hairloss came on fast where I could not notice it before it was too late. so bare that in mind since you need your hair for your shoot.

i think what you put together will be more than ample for your goals here. masteron and proviron are the same thing to me... but good quality masteron is just more expensive so I use proviron to harden up. (my massage therapist said she has never felt someone with as hard a muscles as me while I was on proviron)

running those DHT's could hurt your libido by tanking estrogen but really who cares in this case since you need to have a strong shoot. not sure about the tren, I don't get the same hardening on tren as I do on proviron/masteron .. and since that is your main goal i don't think the sides are worth it in this case.. good luck man, hope it works out for you whatever you decide to do .
 
I would stack a cycle like this.

Week 1-6 Winstrol 60mg ed
Week 1-6 Mast prop 100mg eod
Week 1-8 Test prop 100mg eod
Week 1-6 Var 40 mg ed
Week 1-6 Primo 400mg
 
I like the setup, and a lot of guys are saying var over tbol, but IMO tbol is awesome and exactly what you make of it and the other compounds will keep you looking hard.
 
D i like your original set up but absolutely swap the tbol for var. I personally wouldnt chance the winny mast combo. Good luck brother.

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I just want to thank all of you that gave your input on this for me... this is really important for me and its not just a show or a one time deal... its a career move for me and its a big deal so i need this to be precise at my auditioning...

CEO, my man, you never disappoint with make me laugh my fucking ass off... seriously, i just look forward to your responses bro!

I am not scared one bit of tren itself but there are two reasons why its not an option... One... I CANNOT have something that is going to have the chance of causing me a lot of anger as I am already a bit short tempered... (watch my youtube video of the office space beatdown lol) and I CANNOT have anything effecting my cardio... so its out...

one of the problems with having so many people with such great knowledge reply to this is that there are so many fucking good ideas thrown at me and im such a deep thinker that i am considering quite a few different options...

Here's the final few I am deciding between...

Option 1
Anavar 80 mg day
Proviron 75 mg day
Mast prop 175 mg eod

Option 2
Test Prop 100 mg eod
Winstrol 50 mg day
Mast prop 175 mg eod

Option 3
Tbol 80 mg day
Proviron 75 mg day
mast prop 175 mg eod

Option 4
Test prop 100 me eod
Mast prop 175 mg eod
anavar 80 mg day
proviron 75 mg day
 
I guess if you want to keep it simple like that, then either 2 or 4. Seriously though...tren is IT bro!

So you gonna be a Chippendale dancer or something? Stripper or porn. Which one is it? Thunder Downunder?

Wait...were you laughing at my cycle?
 
I guess if you want to keep it simple like that, then either 2 or 4. Seriously though...tren is IT bro!

So you gonna be a Chippendale dancer or something? Stripper or porn. Which one is it? Thunder Downunder?

Wait...were you laughing at my cycle?
 
I guess if you want to keep it simple like that, then either 2 or 4. Seriously though...tren is IT bro!

So you gonna be a Chippendale dancer or something? Stripper or porn. Which one is it? Thunder Downunder?

Wait...were you laughing at my cycle?


LOLL no I actually love your cycle... i just can't do it! =)

I'll fill you in tomorrow! =)
 
Go with option 2!!!!!!

You will not be dissapointed with winstrol and Mast!!!!!!!

The pumps on winny alone will make you feel like you are already doing porn.
 
After running hundreds of cycles of all sorts

I like your Option 4 Pick, the only difference i did was a low dose of Tren, Either with it or without, that was my most favorite cycle to date, and believe me you will look amazing.
 
option 4, except with tren and no test. i originally thought option 1 but i dont think you are going to gain 5-7lb in your condition and the quality youre after without a stronger anabolic. test prop would help, but tren is better!
 
LMAO... bro, we all know that is never going to happen! =)

YEah yeah....(sigh)



Option 2 or 4 bro. How bout as Radar mentioned, some low dose tren? Like 50mg eod?

Obviously you can run most anything and adjust your calorie deficit to limit size. Hey, it will just shred you more....errr....if thats even possible? But you know that already.
 
I just want to thank all of you that gave your input on this for me... this is really important for me and its not just a show or a one time deal... its a career move for me and its a big deal so i need this to be precise at my auditioning...

CEO, my man, you never disappoint with make me laugh my fucking ass off... seriously, i just look forward to your responses bro!

I am not scared one bit of tren itself but there are two reasons why its not an option... One... I CANNOT have something that is going to have the chance of causing me a lot of anger as I am already a bit short tempered... (watch my youtube video of the office space beatdown lol) and I CANNOT have anything effecting my cardio... so its out...

one of the problems with having so many people with such great knowledge reply to this is that there are so many fucking good ideas thrown at me and im such a deep thinker that i am considering quite a few different options...

Here's the final few I am deciding between...

Option 1
Anavar 80 mg day
Proviron 75 mg day
Mast prop 175 mg eod

Option 2
Test Prop 100 mg eod
Winstrol 50 mg day
Mast prop 175 mg eod

Option 3
Tbol 80 mg day
Proviron 75 mg day
mast prop 175 mg eod

Option 4
Test prop 100 me eod
Mast prop 175 mg eod
anavar 80 mg day
proviron 75 mg day

2 or 4 here. I would just think that ud def want proviron bc u said u wanna get more hard.

Winny will make you look dyier but how much drier can you get?

Your 5.7! Something to ponder
 
thanks guys... i really appreciate it more than you know... i really would love to run tren, i just absolutely cannot have something negatively effect my cardio... its just not an option... that's the only thing holding me back with it... i think option 4 is looking the best as of right now... there have been some excellent points brought up from some guys that i really respect and i really appreciate it...
 
I would go with 4 out of those, because 2 has winny and that stuff's too harsh on the joints without some deca.

If you wanted you could toss in like 2 weeks of winny at the end of #4, or MHN.

I still think some tren to help you keep mass would be good. A lot of people have ran it and it didn't affect their cardio. Cardio sucks anyway. lol. Serioulsy, with Tren A, you can always drop it if it starts to affect cardio too much. Couple days, and you're back to normal.

The Thunder Downunder stripper dancing won't be negatively impacted, I swear!

Vegas meatup?
 
I would go with 4 out of those, because 2 has winny and that stuff's too harsh on the joints without some deca.

If you wanted you could toss in like 2 weeks of winny at the end of #4, or MHN.

I still think some tren to help you keep mass would be good. A lot of people have ran it and it didn't affect their cardio. Cardio sucks anyway. lol. Serioulsy, with Tren A, you can always drop it if it starts to affect cardio too much. Couple days, and you're back to normal.

The Thunder Downunder stripper dancing won't be negatively impacted, I swear!

Vegas meatup?
 
I would go with 4 out of those, because 2 has winny and that stuff's too harsh on the joints without some deca.

If you wanted you could toss in like 2 weeks of winny at the end of #4, or MHN.

I still think some tren to help you keep mass would be good. A lot of people have ran it and it didn't affect their cardio. Cardio sucks anyway. lol. Serioulsy, with Tren A, you can always drop it if it starts to affect cardio too much. Couple days, and you're back to normal.

The Thunder Downunder stripper dancing won't be negatively impacted, I swear!

Vegas meatup?

I fucking love you man...no homo... I about fell off my chair at your last comment... LOLLLLL you are very right though... im considering maybe 50 mg eod of tren ace and if i see it fuck with my cardio i will just stop it... I am definitely considering it... (still laughing as i type)
 
Dylan , seriously consider winstrol. It is the bomb my friend. Cardio increase, sex drive increase, muscle fullness/ hardness and a really good strength increase.

I would run winstrol 75mgs/day
Provirin 75mgs/day
S-4 75mgs/day
Need2slin
Simple and incredibly effective
The only downside for winstrol for me is I can become quite aggressive but I know how to control that. You know all the ancillaries to run but damn man, talk about insane hardness. Just get the shampoo. You won't be disappointed. Tren can cause water retention in some still through the progestin/ prolactin related sides... And it makes you think your gf is cheating on you


Ride it like you stole it!!
 
And it makes you think your gf is cheating on you

ROFLMAO....... Then you cant sleep cause of the tren and shes sleeping next to you and you look at her and say to yourself....look at that bitch....i bet shes dreaming of some other guy....i oughta waker up and kick front teeth out.....whore!
 
I'd also like to see Dylan do a hard core bulk.... but since that ain't gonna happen, I vote Tren! Any reason you're worried about the cardio? If its just to keep you ripped/drop bodyfat I don't think you'll have a problem...
 
Hey bro sorry to be so late on this man. Been out of town and out of communication for the last 4 days.
But anyway this from CEO,

1-3 test e 400mg 2x/week
1-3 test p 100mg EOD
4-6 test p 75mg ED
1-5 tren a 50mg ED
1-5 mast p 50mg ED
5-7 tren a 75mg ED
8 tren a 100mg ED
5-8 mast p 75mg ED
6-7 winny 50mg ED

Take some dbol or adrol to Vegas with you, for however long you'll be there.

Start taking 100mg drol or 50mg dbol during the week you'll be there and take enough with you to continue it.

That's assuming you'll only be in Vegas a few days like most people, not a few weeks. I wouldn't run the drol or dbol for more than a week or two at most. It's just to put on some extra size while you're that lean. You'll look great.

I dont think you could beat that except by maybe adding in proviron. I love the Drol or Dbol finnish.
 
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Here's the final few I am deciding between...

Option 1
Anavar 80 mg day
Proviron 75 mg day
Mast prop 175 mg eod

Option 2
Test Prop 100 mg eod
Winstrol 50 mg day
Mast prop 175 mg eod

Option 3
Tbol 80 mg day
Proviron 75 mg day
mast prop 175 mg eod

Option 4
Test prop 100 me eod
Mast prop 175 mg eod
anavar 80 mg day
proviron 75 mg day[/QUOTE]

Yum, yum...

I've run #2 & loved it

~EZ
 
Here's the final few I am deciding between...

Option 1
Anavar 80 mg day
Proviron 75 mg day
Mast prop 175 mg eod

Option 2
Test Prop 100 mg eod
Winstrol 50 mg day
Mast prop 175 mg eod

Option 3
Tbol 80 mg day
Proviron 75 mg day
mast prop 175 mg eod

Option 4
Test prop 100 me eod
Mast prop 175 mg eod
anavar 80 mg day
proviron 75 mg day

Yum, yum...

I've run #2 & loved it

~EZ[/QUOTE]

I like this number 2 also but have ZERO issues with sides (shedding in this case) so I would bump up the winny a little and go to mast at 100mg ED. I like.....
 
Something was brought to my attention by my big homey gymjunkie that i was completely forgetting about and i think i may roll with what we said...

test prop
methyl dht

any thoughts on this?
 
Something was brought to my attention by my big homey gymjunkie that i was completely forgetting about and i think i may roll with what we said...

test prop
methyl dht

any thoughts on this?

You have shedding issues?

If that was appealing, then run prop with proviron. They compliment each other.
 
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