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so I'm in the hog house...

Well if her goal is to have an uninterrupted, enjoyable night at the bar with zero fall-out the next day, that 25-second text would have either:

1) Completely neutralized the situation.

or:

2) Given her the ultimate hammer to use if he bitched the next day, which would have made today's argument(s) much shorter.

and if he kept bitching...

3) It gives her the smoking gun proof she needs to justify giving him an ultimatum to shape up or GTFO.

I'm willing to bet that 25-second text would have saved hours of arguments and soul-searching about what to do next with her husband.

I'm just being pragmatic.

i like that word and i don't use it often enough...that's gonna change...tomorrow :lmao:
 
he's justified in being pissed about the driving...irregardless of how much water you drank you still woulda blown numbers i bet.
 
he's justified in being pissed about the driving...irregardless of how much water you drank you still woulda blown numbers i bet.


another friend brought to my attn I probably would have blown a dui with a little basic math oz/hrs ....and ya..thats not cool cuz i know the math myself.
I felt fine, I walked talked and drove fine...it was a mile drive home from where my car was to home..which honestly I could have walked and didn't because I didn't want to leave the bimmer in what was in all honestly a perfectly safe parking place
so I'm a complete ass for this
 
another friend brought to my attn I probably would have blown a dui with a little basic math oz/hrs ....and ya..thats not cool cuz i know the math myself.
I felt fine, I walked talked and drove fine...it was a mile drive home from where my car was to home..which honestly I could have walked and didn't because I didn't want to leave the bimmer in what was in all honestly a perfectly safe parking place
so I'm a complete ass for this

i won't critize you, not my place to in this matter...but i could see why he would be pissed about the driving shit, the other issues is weak insecurity on his part, let a girl have fun.
about two miles from my house i dui'ed thru a guardrail and was charged with felony dui and some other shit for destroying the rail.
so shit can happen close to him jus sayin
 
You're talking one scene, I'm talking whole movie.

The text probably wouldv'e helped last night. I'm almost sure of it. Her problem isn't that she didn't want to reassure him this time, it's that she's sick of it happening all the time. Every time she goes out after this, she'll have to reassure him as well...and that's bullshit when your partner has no reason to suspect anything.

I'd be equally annoyed if I had to tiptoe around issues with my partner and hold his hand through nothing, just so he wouldn't have to deal with the real problem of his insecurity.

I shouldn't have to have to devise an offensive plan to combat my husband's issues every time I step out.


This nails it totally...I actually get incredibly sick of the constant check ups that I don't talk about on here because frankly I don't wanna hear about it and don't need peeps up in my dirt.
Its a huge glaring flaw that I can't do much about except walk which I'm not willing to do.

I flirt with him a lot. I constantly stroke his ego in every way imaginable. I tell him what a great husband and dad he is every chance I get. I make his job out to be a big deal.
Im the appropriate arm drapery for company functions...I stroke his bosses ego.
I pretty much never say no to sex..I have not cheated on him though if were all going to tell the truth constantly having someone be suspicious of me has almost driven me to it
I'd be lying if I said there has never been a male marital threat but thats never gonna happen either because I AM married with kids and am not willing to be a home wrecker. but honestly the only reason why theres even been one guy thats made me reconsider things is because I don't like living under a thumb.

I was an intensely independent person before meeting my husband and didn't know the meaning of the word compromise..for him I have compromised pretty much every hobby, most friendships and the way I dress act or hell if I wear perfume..because I worry about making him more insecure/jealous
For the record he still dresses the way he did when I met him (with changing trends obv) wears cologne...fusses about his hair

I kinda gave up for a while aside from work and I don't like what its done to me
I used to be a party girl and stopped all of it because it was time to grow up..but it doesn't mean I'm dead and want to stay home 24/7

SD brought up a point about going out and having my fantasy ruined...which frankly pissed me off but I didn't respond to it ..idk, correctly.
I do like being my OWN person once in a while...and that means, not Gregs wife, not Morgan's, Hannah's, Makayla's or Fiona's mom..I just wanna be Shirlene..that doesn't mean I forget about them or have some fantasy that theyre not there or that I'm breaking any sort of marital or mommy moral conduct..it just means I'm enjoying not answering to anyone for a few hrs and I don't ask for that very often at all

If I don't get to do it once in a while I get resentful because the rest of the time I seriously can't remember the last time I took a shower or even went to the bathroom uninterrupted by someone in my family
 
i won't critize you, not my place to in this matter...but i could see why he would be pissed about the driving shit, the other issues is weak insecurity on his part, let a girl have fun.
about two miles from my house i dui'ed thru a guardrail and was charged with felony dui and some other shit for destroying the rail.
so shit can happen close to him jus sayin


irony of ironies...its about the only thing he wasn't pissed about..probably because I didnt come home wobbly or slurred
but yeah, youre totally right..I know better and shouldnt have
I've scraped people off the road close to their homes too
 
Shirlene this is his problem, not yours. This isn't going to stop even after you've lost yourself completely because this isn't about you. I don't think the guys here understand how easily a woman can just get lost in this stuff, changing everything about herself...while he makes all the demands and does nothing.
 
yeah...I recently relinquished something else and his own brother said "thats really generous of you..whats he going to compromise"
with out getting in to details....it was pretty poignant at the time
 
You're talking one scene, I'm talking whole movie.

The text probably wouldv'e helped last night. I'm almost sure of it. Her problem isn't that she didn't want to reassure him this time, it's that she's sick of it happening all the time. Every time she goes out after this, she'll have to reassure him as well...and that's bullshit when your partner has no reason to suspect anything.

I'd be equally annoyed if I had to tiptoe around issues with my partner and hold his hand through nothing, just so he wouldn't have to deal with the real problem of his insecurity.

I shouldn't have to have to devise an offensive plan to combat my husband's issues every time I step out.

Actually I am talking the whole movie. But you have to use scenes in a way that connect them into a coherent story.

Look at how things evolved last night. Today, there's probably been at least 1-2 fights and the scene is set for a long series of more fights.

Now let's rewind to her missed call. Let's have her text what I recommended. What are the potential next steps?

Case 1) It completely eliminates his concern on this incident (best case)

So if this happens, you know his fears can be rationally addressed. From there, all she needs to do is meter-down the level of assurance he needs. Does that mean she'll need to do another 25-second text within the next few times she goes out? Probably.

Case 2) He makes a scene later that evening or the next day, she points-out the reassuring text and he comes to his senses (middle case)

This is just a worse version of (1), but it still means he can be rationally dealt with which is a sign of progress.

Case 3) He makes a scene, she points-out the reassuring text and he stays flipped out.

Now you've got the facts to sit down with him and tell him to get his shit together. Shirl would know 100% that it's not her, it's him.

As-is, the situation is murky at best. It may be annoying to have to lay a little groundwork, but I'd much rather posture myself a little further into the right and turn the entire episode into an object lesson.
 
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Ive done the ground work plunk...I have always responded to a txt or a phone call in the past...I did almost cave and respond when he initially called but maybe made a mistake in sticking to my guns
I can promise this that if history repeats itself..even if I had answered or called him back..it would have resulted in the spanish inquisition and I would have gotten called every 5 minutes almost to the minute until i gave in and came home in tears

I will admit to drawing a line in the sand when I went out this last time..because I have laid the groundwork

he has rationally calmed down and has admitted he didn't have a reason to worry..whether he believes that really or its the PC thing to say is another story all together
but its a bed i've made for myself so I lie in it.
 
Problem is insecurity isn't a drug addiction. You don't just taper off doses and feel fine.

Even in the best case scenarios 1 or 2, if he's calmed by the reassuring texts, most likely since the problem is within him and not actually based on her, when he notices the reassuring texts have tapered off, he'll go back to being suspicious and insecure and needing texts or calls. I'm sure she's tried before. It's the easiest logical "fix"...yet here we are, last night, not answering a call and he's all pissy.

Reassurance won't fix the problem, just mute the symptoms. It's pick's thread about giving LSD to cancer patients at the end of your life -- Feel better now. Still die tomorrow.
 
we don't know if the problem is his, her, or a combination of both of theirs. we know in shrizl's eyes, it's his problem, he has no reason to be insecure, etc she's never cheated. but that doesn't mean that in the context of their relationship, interactions and dynamic, he doesn't have a reason to feel insecure. how do we know? shrizl might not even realize it. that's all I'm saying. and just because she has never actually cheated, doesn't mean she doesn't hang out with these guys because she likes and enjoys the attention she gets. maybe that's why the husband is uncomfortable.
 
Problem is insecurity isn't a drug addiction. You don't just taper off doses and feel fine.

Even in the best case scenarios 1 or 2, if he's calmed by the reassuring texts, most likely since the problem is within him and not actually based on her, when he notices the reassuring texts have tapered off, he'll go back to being suspicious and insecure and needing texts or calls. I'm sure she's tried before. It's the easiest logical "fix"...yet here we are, last night, not answering a call and he's all pissy.

Reassurance won't fix the problem, just mute the symptoms. It's pick's thread about giving LSD to cancer patients at the end of your life -- Feel better now. Still die tomorrow.

Well if she's absolutely certain that it's 100% him and there is nothing she can do to manage the problem short of acquiescing, then she's got another really easy decision in front of her:

1) Change her behavior in an attempt to satisfy his irrational fears (which sounds like a really bad idea to me).

2) Divorce and leave him.

As for me, I sure wouldn't make the divorce decision which affects a couple and three children unless I had some really concrete evidence that I wasn't playing even a 5% role in the situation.
 
we don't know if the problem is his, her, or a combination of both of theirs. we know in shrizl's eyes, it's his problem, he has no reason to be insecure, etc she's never cheated. but that doesn't mean that in the context of their relationship, interactions and dynamic, he doesn't have a reason to feel insecure. how do we know? shrizl might not even realize it. that's all I'm saying. and just because she has never actually cheated, doesn't mean she doesn't hang out with these guys because she likes and enjoys the attention she gets. maybe that's why the husband is uncomfortable.

Absolutely correct.

That's why if I were in Shirlz position (which I admit is a tough spot and I wish her the best), I'd test the waters some. If it does lead to a hard decision, she should be in a place where she knows she did everything she could.
 
I'm not saying she should divorce him, just saying I doubt a couple texts will fix the situation.

I'm leaning toward believing Shirlz though if the hubby's own bro is making comments on her sacrifices.
 
Absolutely correct.

That's why if I were in Shirlz position (which I admit is a tough spot and I wish her the best), I'd test the waters some. If it does lead to a hard decision, she should be in a place where she knows she did everything she could.

I'll agree with that part :)
 
I'm not saying she should divorce him, just saying I doubt a couple texts will fix the situation.

I'm leaning toward believing Shirlz though if the hubby's own bro is making comments on her sacrifices.

I doubt a couple texts will fix it either. And it doesn't have to be texts.

I don't like ambiguity or gray areas. I'd find the 2-3 things I could do to put me firmly in the right, then have a pretty serious (potentially life-altering) conversation with my S.O. if I know for 100% sure it's all my spouse.
 
I don't like ambiguity or gray areas. I'd find the 2-3 things I could do to put me firmly in the right, then have a pretty serious (potentially life-altering) conversation with my S.O. if I know for 100% sure it's all my spouse.
Next time, look into a Stepford wife.
 
we don't know if the problem is his, her, or a combination of both of theirs. we know in shrizl's eyes, it's his problem, he has no reason to be insecure, etc she's never cheated. but that doesn't mean that in the context of their relationship, interactions and dynamic, he doesn't have a reason to feel insecure. how do we know? shrizl might not even realize it. that's all I'm saying. and just because she has never actually cheated, doesn't mean she doesn't hang out with these guys because she likes and enjoys the attention she gets. maybe that's why the husband is uncomfortable.

Awesome point... His side her side and some where in between is the truth of the matter.

Shirl have you guys ever been to couple therapy?
 
he's going to tit bars which i don't think is ok. shirl are you really ok with that. sounds to me like he wants to run around and do what he wants and wants to control her too
 
went out last night solo
wound up running into co-worker guy that husband doesn't like and got blasted with him and did a lil bar hoppin with him

refused to answer the phone when hubby called while I was out...was home before the bar closed
was NOT up to no good..behaved fine..just had drinks with a friend and hung out with some new peeps
everyone was pretty fun..and I literally go out by myself for a cpl of hrs like twice a yr...so it doesn't take much to entertain me

came home...things were mostly smoothed over before I fell asleep cuz hubby was awake waiting for me (doh)
got woken up at 6 am by husband flipping out on me cuz he went through my phone and saw a txt message I didn't know was on there that said "be safe" cuz I drove my car home after shutting myself off at midnight and drinking like 9 pints of water.


am I in the wrong here bros?
discuss

p.s. "standing bow" in the middle of a crowded bar as a self sobriety test turns out rather interestingly
you arnt in the dog house. you are in the "i did nothing wrong and im going to make him apologize for being mad at me" house.

lol women
 
Whoever's fault it is doesn't matter,the only concern for me would be my kids picking up the vibe on this and thinking this is how its suppose to be.They sometimes follow our actions.
 
went out last night solo
wound up running into co-worker guy that husband doesn't like and got blasted with him and did a lil bar hoppin with him

refused to answer the phone when hubby called while I was out...was home before the bar closed
was NOT up to no good..behaved fine..just had drinks with a friend and hung out with some new peeps
everyone was pretty fun..and I literally go out by myself for a cpl of hrs like twice a yr...so it doesn't take much to entertain me

came home...things were mostly smoothed over before I fell asleep cuz hubby was awake waiting for me (doh)
got woken up at 6 am by husband flipping out on me cuz he went through my phone and saw a txt message I didn't know was on there that said "be safe" cuz I drove my car home after shutting myself off at midnight and drinking like 9 pints of water.


am I in the wrong here bros?
discuss

p.s. "standing bow" in the middle of a crowded bar as a self sobriety test turns out rather interestingly


to be perfectly honest I agree with girls night out's but when a married woman goes out alone and then hangs with a coworker, someone who they see on a daily basis. When that happens there are sometimes feelings or expectations that arise but I applaud you for being good.

Now, as your husband I would have been pretty pissed only because you hung out with a potential bad risky situation. Things could have gone bad real fast and sometimes when alcohol is flowing we tend to do things we would not do sober. Its a situation that could have had bad endings.
 
If this were 7 yrs ago, I would have said "yeah, it's his issue, you did nothing wrong"

I'll try to be delicate with what I will say next, but with my ex, I behaved like this when I was with him. He would get mad and I would call him insecure. In my mind, I was not cheating or hurting or doing anything wrong, but what I failed to understand was that he was not comfortable with it, and I didn't respect his worry.
Now, fast forward to today, I would never go out with any guy to have drinks without either inviting my bf or making sure he is totally ok with it.
And for sure, I would answer my phone.

Major jealousy does breed contempt and anyone who is really insecure, will cheat. As what happened in my case. Though I was not truly sensitive to my ex's concerns.
One of the mistakes I made with my ex. Live and learn.
 
If this were 7 yrs ago, I would have said "yeah, it's his issue, you did nothing wrong"

I'll try to be delicate with what I will say next, but with my ex, I behaved like this when I was with him. He would get mad and I would call him insecure. In my mind, I was not cheating or hurting or doing anything wrong, but what I failed to understand was that he was not comfortable with it, and I didn't respect his worry.
Now, fast forward to today, I would never go out with any guy to have drinks without either inviting my bf or making sure he is totally ok with it.
And for sure, I would answer my phone.

Major jealousy does breed contempt and anyone who is really insecure, will cheat. As what happened in my case. Though I was not truly sensitive to my ex's concerns.
One of the mistakes I made with my ex. Live and learn.


Very well said
 
we don't know if the problem is his, her, or a combination of both of theirs. we know in shrizl's eyes, it's his problem, he has no reason to be insecure, etc she's never cheated. but that doesn't mean that in the context of their relationship, interactions and dynamic, he doesn't have a reason to feel insecure. how do we know? shrizl might not even realize it. that's all I'm saying. and just because she has never actually cheated, doesn't mean she doesn't hang out with these guys because she likes and enjoys the attention she gets. maybe that's why the husband is uncomfortable.

This was my thinking years ago.....are you a medium?! How did you know this :-)

Exactly though. I feel pretty ashamed of this and feel bad I hurt my ex at the time
 
a lot of people can not so respectfully...fuck off in this thread :)

some grains of truth from some peeps and some point of views I honestly hadn't considered and some REAL wild stabs in the dark that are pretty off base

I dont whore myself out, thank you very much
I dont whore out attention from dudes
I dont actually see this guy at work every day ..we used to be in the same department where he was actually my superior..now we don't
and I sure as hell don't make a point of making my spouse uncomfortable
 
oh...and not many chicks wanna hang with me and talk about guns, dogs, emergency medicine, cars, hot rods, motorcycles or art

I cant even begin to fathom the fascination with shopping , purses, makeup or shoes
and I dont actually know a single woman in person that weight lifts
 
a lot of people can not so respectfully...fuck off in this thread :)

some grains of truth from some peeps and some point of views I honestly hadn't considered and some REAL wild stabs in the dark that are pretty off base

I dont whore myself out, thank you very much
I dont whore out attention from dudes
I dont actually see this guy at work every day ..we used to be in the same department where he was actually my superior..now we don't
and I sure as hell don't make a point of making my spouse uncomfortable


Im sorry I should have stated my statement was in general of how I would have felt if it were my girl who went out. I dont know you and I shouldnt pass judgement. I believe you are a good person and it never even came across my mind of you being what you listed above. Your a good person.
 
oh...and not many chicks wanna hang with me and talk about guns, dogs, emergency medicine, cars, hot rods, motorcycles or art

I cant even begin to fathom the fascination with shopping , purses, makeup or shoes
and I dont actually know a single woman in person that weight lifts

We're a great match shirl ! All my gfs are more like "guys" too . I can't relate much to girly girls . No offense to anyone who is . Give me some weights and a Harley and I'm happy .
 
oh...and not many chicks wanna hang with me and talk about guns, dogs, emergency medicine, cars, hot rods, motorcycles or art

I cant even begin to fathom the fascination with shopping , purses, makeup or shoes
and I dont actually know a single woman in person that weight lifts

I'm a lady in the streets and a freak in the bed!

I talk about cars, art, animals, and I lift weights. But I also have my chick side where I love to shop (not talk about it) and I do have a love of the shoes.
But I am too old for you, so we would also have to talk about Geritol, polident and Led Zeppelin ;-)
 
^^^Especially with kids...very few things are when there is family at stake

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I think you should've answered the phone, especially since it's late at night and you're out clubbing. If I called my girl when she was partying at night and she didn't answer, my mind would run a million different scenarios too. then again, i have security issues because of fucked up relationships and past girl friends ripping my heart apart, so im not sure if my advice is biased. also getting drunk and bar hopping with random dudes is not exactly acceptable by all guys...friends is one thing random dudes is not cool...not thatyou are not trustworhty, but most random dudes arent...hubby probably pissed because what you did might be dangerous, especially driving home half drunk or not answering your phone...what if you're in trouble etc? you probably got him worried.....all in all, not that bad as long as you didnt cheat and nothing a mind blowing evening of sex cant solve
 
all bull shit aside just picking up the phone would have gone a long way.. Its not much to ask for at all. That is the only part I could not have dealt with if it was me.. For what its worth..
 
like I said...a few angles I hadn't considered

makeup sex was had

and no its not divorce worthy...the pattern sucks...a lot
but with kids and the whole kaboodle

I'll deal with shit
 
As if this thread does not have enough legs, I am going to chime in.

You fucked up - you know it. Stop blaming it on your husbands insecurities. The reason he is insecure is because you do this kind of shit.

There - Plunkey was trying to say this in a much better way but I am going to be more direct.

Now the real issue is, in your heart of hearts, were you pushing for this outcome. I believe you probably were - or willing to risk that it would end up like this just to push the issue. I get it - probably have done it a few times myself.
 
right..because leaving my house and asking to not to be bothered for four hrs is some cardinal sin
 
right..because leaving my house and asking to not to be bothered for four hrs is some cardinal sin

yes, when in a married relationship, going out and drinking with other men is a fuck-up. Especially one that is on the do not fucking look at list.

You know that.

If it was me, I would not have been texting my wife while she was out BUT, I would have been expecting her to be out with just the girls. I also don't go through her phone but if I did and saw that message, I would have reacted just the same.
 
Sorry, shrizl but you asked for people's opinions and i think everyone is just being honest in how they personally feel in the matter.

Personally, i cant imagine leaving my home (be it day or night) for 4 hrs and telling my husband "don't fucking call me". But i'm not you, and Chris isn't Greg. To me, it says something about the current status of your relationship. Just my opinion.
 
Sorry, shrizl but you asked for people's opinions and i think everyone is just being honest in how they personally feel in the matter.

Personally, i cant imagine leaving my home (be it day or night) for 4 hrs and telling my husband "don't fucking call me". But i'm not you, and Chris isn't Greg. To me, it says something about the current status of your relationship. Just my opinion.

ding ding ding
 
Sorry, shrizl but you asked for people's opinions and i think everyone is just being honest in how they personally feel in the matter.

Personally, i cant imagine leaving my home (be it day or night) for 4 hrs and telling my husband "don't fucking call me". But i'm not you, and Chris isn't Greg. To me, it says something about the current status of your relationship. Just my opinion.

agreed

i was going to say, i doubt Chris would call you non stop and drive you nutz too while you were out
 
It's interesting how the women are all "yeah! it's his fucking problem! You go girl!"

And the men are either siding with Greg or trying to see it from both sides.

Of course this should go without saying, but for those who are n00ber than others, smurf is obviously lumped in with the men as usual (not just because of her penis either).
 
omg...i hate the telephone...i call once, i leave no message and maybe i follow up with one text...that's it...regardless of who i am trying to get in contact with or why.

I do it the other way around. I text and if they don't follow up, I will call if it is really important but in general, I don't use the phone for calls. Just txt and email.

I would have sent a txt saying sup ngro. She would have wrote back and said, I am drunk and have a dudes dick in my mouth. I would have wrote back, brush your teeth before coming to bed.

Actually, shoe on the other foot, I would never take her calls when out of country. just reply to her txt.
 
oh wow...you think the current status of the relationship is a little stressed?
I'll go over non relationship stress for a moment

neck injury/pain, employment downgrade, 4 kids..two of which are teenagers, money stress, home refi, Im being sued, and my 26 yr old brother in law lives with us...with his siamese mix cat and a dilemma about whether or not to go back to college
and yeah...I did ask for peoples opinions..some Ive seriously considered and gave me insight in both directions


I have always said there's three sides to every story and recognize that my version of it is going to have a skewed perception...Im not unrealistic believe it or not

but some people have some serious reading comprehension problems judging by some of the rhetoric
and to be fair...no one knows how much I have or havent told both in backround and the event at hand

its interesting to me that people want to keep beating down how wrong I was when I had already said things were smoothed over...in as much as..my husband doesnt want to talk about it and has decided its a non issue

I was also called out by someone I do trust that I knew what his response would be, right or wrong and I did it anyway so Im responsible in my part of it

I get it peeps...no need to take a shot at my character or beat a dead horse

got it..trashy behavior, trashy person and a shitty spouse
 
thank you YPMO bringin the real shit once again..i mean really i see it as blatant disrespect for your marriage/husband/family/kids, u actually got in the car with this guy(alone).. that ur husband doesn't like, and not only were u with a guy that ur husband doesn't like under the influence of alcohol, but you ignored his call while you were bein a fuck up, and then to top that off you blamed him for you ignoring the call... so basically you're all like "fuk i need 'shirl' time fuk my bitch ass kids wantin to grow up in a stable home those lil shit fucks walk in on me poopin and showerin"

i can guarantee this.. the EF peeps that have good marriages wouldn't be in this dumfuk situation.. YPMO's wife wouldn't have done that shit, Mitch's wife wouldn't, ceo's wife, Plunk's wife, Er's wife, smurf already chimed in...

If you didn't ride with the guy to the bar by yourself it doesn't matter you're still a complete fuck up im not goin back to read through the thread for the details
 
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oh wow...you think the current status of the relationship is a little stressed?
I'll go over non relationship stress for a moment

neck injury/pain, employment downgrade, 4 kids..two of which are teenagers, money stress, home refi, Im being sued, and my 26 yr old brother in law lives with us...with his siamese mix cat and a dilemma about whether or not to go back to college
and yeah...I did ask for peoples opinions..some Ive seriously considered and gave me insight in both directions


I have always said there's three sides to every story and recognize that my version of it is going to have a skewed perception...Im not unrealistic believe it or not

but some people have some serious reading comprehension problems judging by some of the rhetoric
and to be fair...no one knows how much I have or havent told both in backround and the event at hand

its interesting to me that people want to keep beating down how wrong I was when I had already said things were smoothed over...in as much as..my husband doesnt want to talk about it and has decided its a non issue

I was also called out by someone I do trust that I knew what his response would be, right or wrong and I did it anyway so Im responsible in my part of it

I get it peeps...no need to take a shot at my character or beat a dead horse

got it..trashy behavior, trashy person and a shitty spouse

Man.. my recent blow up, really short separation with the bride, happened in a very similar situation. I had a bad back, my brother is living with us (but in a guest house),and she sent a txt to me by accident that was meant for a friend which made some comment about money.

I text back in my shitty mood and boom - she was gone for a week. Was a pretty nice break really. We had some decent sex since (quality - not quantity and not until my back felt better).
 
which is the real reason I didn't call back...I am stressed to the absolute max right now..and would have been a needless bitch
and to tell the truth was gonna be grounded when I got home even if I had gone shopping or some shit because I was gone for four hrs..it didnt matter what I did or didn't do...I wasn't six inches from him when he wasn't busy...
I wish I was being melodramatic, but Im not
 
which is the real reason I didn't call back...I am stressed to the absolute max right now..and would have been a needless bitch
and to tell the truth was gonna be grounded when I got home even if I had gone shopping or some shit because I was gone for four hrs..it didnt matter what I did or didn't do...I wasn't six inches from him when he wasn't busy...
I wish I was being melodramatic, but Im not

^wow..^wow... and now you sound like fukin java "i didn't 'really' choke and beat the bish cause obviously i wouldve ripped her throat out with my 600lb grip strength and the bish also stole money from me anyways and you guys just don't understand those mugshots were actually glamour shots but the photographer didn't watch the youtube i showed her about photography!"
 
right...you must have missed the part where I apologized to my husband and admitted it was shitty

not that too many people got any of the reasoning behind what happened because I dont tend to share relationship details on EF
 
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I'm sure your half-hearted apology went just about as far to repair the damage as your half-hearted stroking of his ego does for his insecurities...
 
lolol@ relationship advice from someone whos been married a million times and fucks anything that moves
 
It's interesting how the women are all "yeah! it's his fucking problem! You go girl!"

And the men are either siding with Greg or trying to see it from both sides.

Of course this should go without saying, but for those who are n00ber than others, smurf is obviously lumped in with the men as usual (not just because of her penis either).

I'm saying it's his problem because those are the details I have right now. If Grg signs up for EF and told us something different, my opinion may change. It has nothing to do with blaming the man. If this exact thread was made by a man telling me he told his girl he was going out for a few hours, but she called anyways all insecure about where he might be, I'd be saying she was the problem.

It's not on a certain genitalia's side. Im on the you're fucking annoying if you can't trust me for 3 hours side.
 
It's kind of how I'm supposed to believe from all the men on here that the problem with their relationships are always crazy women, nothing they did. Ever. :rolleyes:
 
I'm saying it's his problem because those are the details I have right now. If Grg signs up for EF and told us something different, my opinion may change. It has nothing to do with blaming the man. If this exact thread was made by a man telling me he told his girl he was going out for a few hours, but she called anyways all insecure about where he might be, I'd be saying she was the problem.

It's not on a certain genitalia's side. Im on the you're fucking annoying if you can't trust me for 3 hours side.
I sided with SD when some chick dropped by unannounced at his place cuz he didnt answer calls, I'm usually against jealous people, I really really hate people who try to control others or objectify them as "mine" because they are a couple.

collar smelling, pocket picking, email reading, constant calling needy people I will never side with, regardless if they are male or female.
 
99% of men would have problems with their wife drinking with a bunch of dudes, as would 99% of women if their husband was drinking with a bunch of women. Not trying to beat a dead horse here Shirlene, just trying to prove a point.
 
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Back in CR hubby went out a cpl times with like 5 chicks from high scchol, including his hs ex gf, he even invited me to go but I didnt and I didnt mind, same when I went out with dudes from work, it's called trust

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It's interesting how the women are all "yeah! it's his fucking problem! You go girl!"

And the men are either siding with Greg or trying to see it from both sides.

Of course this should go without saying, but for those who are n00ber than others, smurf is obviously lumped in with the men as usual (not just because of her penis either).

wtf, did u miss my post mon frere?
 
Back in CR hubby went out a cpl times with like 5 chicks from high scchol, including his hs ex gf, he even invited me to go but I didnt and I didnt mind, same when I went out with dudes from work, it's called trust

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That is because you should be more worried when your hubby is out drinking with dudes.
 
Back in CR hubby went out a cpl times with like 5 chicks from high scchol, including his hs ex gf, he even invited me to go but I didnt and I didnt mind, same when I went out with dudes from work, it's called trust

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You should have a problem with that, are you kidding?
 
You should have a problem with that, are you kidding?
why? I knew where he was going and I trust him to behave, I have no need to have him on a leash, if he wants to go out for drinks he cant, I dont care if it's male or female, even though we have the sex thing I am not insecure or jealous, we live and breath the same god damn air, I cant blame him for wanting some me time, cant even imagine having kids and more stuff like Shirlene has.

All of you who say it's ok if it's girls night, you are very mistaken, girls can sometimes be mean conniving bitches when together, filling their own heads with poison s to how men suck and how they feel repressed then one will say they should break free and shit hits the fan, also men like to hit on groups of women so they're not safe that way either, I see it this way: if they want to cheat they will, who they go out with doesnt determine who they come back home with.

And I'm not just saying this, it works both ways, I've been out with dudes until 4a.m. and he's been out with mixed co-workers until 6a.m. the ONLY time I've been upset was that 6a.m. time and it wasnt because of the time, it was because he had been out 4 weekends in a row, when he got home at 6a.m. I pretended to be asleep and when he laid in bed I pretended to wake up, greeted him and asked if he had a good time, he said he did and he said his coworkers partied too hard and he wasnt gonna go out with them anymore; and guess what he never went out with them again, had I waited up and started shit I'm sure he would have kept going out, instead I let him realize his own mistakes and he knocked it off on his own.
 
omg lmao

can we please put a lock on nans shit so she cant go past 100 words

fuck people stop with the books

Not my fault your reading comprehension skills are deteriorated, hard to make a point in monosyllabus

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it would be fine if your posts were interesting, but they are boring as fuck.

i can handle a sentence
 
well it is hard to understand jealous possessive men...

Indeed, and it's hard to understand jealous possessive females as well; I like my free space when I date...Mel was a perfect match because we could chat online during the week while she studied and I worked... then we would "meat" up for Friday night sci fi, go out for her her drinking on Saturday and be in church Sunday.
 
Friday night sci-fi?

Jesus... it only gets worse.

I guess if I had to choose between sci-fi night or scouring the Internet looking for boring-ass videos to post that no one will watch, perhaps I too would go with the latter.
 
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Indeed, and it's hard to understand jealous possessive females as well; I like my free space when I date...Mel was a perfect match because we could chat online during the week while she studied and I worked... then we would "meat" up for Friday night sci fi, go out for her her drinking on Saturday and be in church Sunday.

Obviously knot the perfect match or youd still be with her
 
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