Baffled, cypionate stopped working mid-cycle

[rustilldown]

Does anyone have any thoughts?

How is your diet? Sleep schedule? Any stress factors in your
Life such as work/ relationships .. There are so many things that can contribute to lethargy. If you have no gyno symptoms I would back off your arimidex to a lower dose as that can cause lethargy in its own way. Have you gained a fair amount of weight this first 6 weeks ? If I bulk too fast I feel like poo and am lazy, good HIIT cardio session usually helps me get energetic again.

 

[rustilldown]

Sometimes too much test can cause people to be lethargic too.

 

[question619]

Diet and sleep are good. I do have some stresses that came about the same time this started but man I felt soooo good the first part of the cycle now it's all gone. Can't gain a lb. no matter what I do. I gained 10 lbs and trimmed 2% off body fat down to about 14%. I am moody as f### have zero patience for anything, not feeling a pump at the gym anymore, and weights are slipping. Its seriously as if my body is eating the test before it gets into my system.

 

[question619]

If it was too much test would it inhibit my gains, give a lethargic feeling or both?

 

[stevesmi]

k now I understand, wish you would of said this to begin with.

rustilldown is hitting the nail on the head but I will go a step further and say that you have underlying problems, when you went on the test you felt great at first but once the blood levels reached peak levels your old problems came back.

the bottom line is you merely replaced your existing testosterone which was very very good. with replacement testosterone, so you are pretty much back to square 1 here.. in actuality at those dosages your test levels are gonna be sky high. this can actually create new problems for you. insomnia, high bp, aggression, etc. so now when the doc does new tests he is gonna try and cherry pick your results and this can be bad because of the dosages you are running.. in fact you will probably come in with some kidney strain and he will want to check your kidney's next, so really you should not have run those high dosages without informing him.

i would get off the test and run a PCT. and stay the hell away from this doctor.

and then i would find out why you are having your problems.. as rust said it can be due to stress, poor diet, lifestyle choices, drinking, not enough exercise, not feeling confident etc. pumping yourself full of testosterone won't make these underlying problems go away. your issues are definately not testosterone related with those numbers. i still can't believe this doc put you on HRT with those numbers, bet there are thousands of guys going on HRT for life when its totally not necessary.

and in conclusion once you find out your issues you should consider some natural supplements.. there are plenty out there that will help with feeling lethargic, also DIET DIET DIET.. a simple change of diet can fix many problems with the way you feel.

 

[question619]

To be totally honest I didn't really have any issues when I went in to see him. Those were my excuses for getting a script. I don't drink so alcohol isn't it.

 

[rustilldown]

Diet and sleep are good. I do have some stresses that came about the same time this started but man I felt soooo good the first part of the cycle now it's all gone. Can't gain a lb. no matter what I do. I gained 10 lbs and trimmed 2% off body fat down to about 14%. I am moody as f### have zero patience for anything, not feeling a pump at the gym anymore, and weights are slipping. Its seriously as if my body is eating the test before it gets into my system.

Yeah that sounds like a hormonal imbalance, I am no doctor either so I can't really offer any solid advice. I know that relationship stress really killed a good part of my last cycle, where I was feeling fantastic at first. Once the stress was gone everything was great again and I'm still gaining in pct. you ever consider lowering your dose ? Or even just stop if problems continue to persist.? Run a pct and re evaluate?

 

[rustilldown]

Steve is a smart man and knows his stuff I would take his advice over your dr anyday.

 

[question619]

Everyone is probably right, I need to stop and run pct. I was really hoping to find a fix for the problem and continue on with the cycle. Thank you all for your insight.

 

[question619]

Would you say it would be best to adjust the cyp and adex dose or stop, run pct and re-evaluate? If you would adjust doses what would you adjust to? Right now I am running 200mg of cyp on Sunday's and thurs. As of recently 1mg of adex every day.