Critique/guide me on my first cycle, test cyp + dbol!

[pojo18]

1-10 300 mg test cyp on monday/thursday
1-10 adex .25 mg EOD
1-4 dbol 30 mg ed
3-10 Hcgenerate at recommended dose

2 weeks after last pin

clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20


Edit : Info about me

I am 26 years old, 5'10'' 195 lbs roughly 11-13% bodyfat. I've been lifting seriously for 9 years. I have never pinned before but have ran two oral hdrol cycles in the past

my big 3 squat/bench/dead are 440/315/505

 

[RADAR]

1-10 300 mg test cyp on monday/thursday
1-10 adex .25 mg EOD
1-4 dbol 30 mg ed
3-10 Hcgenerate at recommended dose

2 weeks after last pin

clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20


Edit : Info about me

I am 26 years old, 5'10'' 195 lbs roughly 11-13% bodyfat. I've been lifting seriously for 9 years. I have never pinned before but have ran two oral hdrol cycles in the past

my big 3 squat/bench/dead are 440/315/505

Everything looks good EXCEPT!

Drop that Clomid and Nova

Get some Post Cycle and Unleashed from needtobuildmuscle.com

 

[pojo18]

your recommending an otc only pct....? I thought a serm was the starting point of any pct.

 

[EZ_E]

Good 1st cycle, reasonable test dose....

As far as PCT; things have changed....it's 2012 like everything else improvements have been made:

I recommend:

HCGenerate last few weeks and into PCT
Forma Stanzol after last pin = 7 weeks
Post Cycle/Unleashed 2 weeks later = 5 weeks

~EZ

 

[RADAR]

^^^^ Thats even better!

 

[gymjunkie09]

Good 1st cycle, reasonable test dose....

As far as PCT; things have changed....it's 2012 like everything else improvements have been made:

I recommend:

HCGenerate last few weeks and into PCT
Forma Stanzol after last pin = 7 weeks
Post Cycle/Unleashed 2 weeks later = 5 weeks

~EZ

works every time

 

[pojo18]

Good 1st cycle, reasonable test dose....

As far as PCT; things have changed....it's 2012 like everything else improvements have been made:

I recommend:

HCGenerate last few weeks and into PCT
Forma Stanzol after last pin = 7 weeks
Post Cycle/Unleashed 2 weeks later = 5 weeks

~EZ

so drop serm all together? these otc products will totally cover recovery?

 

[EZ_E]

so drop serm all together? these otc products will totally cover recovery?

That PCT works like a charm

~EZ

 

[pojo18]

That PCT works like a charm

~EZ

what about dropping the clomid, using the nolva and everything else recommended? quite honestly im scared to pct w. out a SERM. planning a cycle was easy but having been researching so long pct is always controversial and everyone has a differing opinion but no matter where i look clomid/nolva is almost always included. im scared to not incorporate either.

 

[gymjunkie09]

what about dropping the clomid, using the nolva and everything else recommended? quite honestly im scared to pct w. out a SERM. planning a cycle was easy but having been researching so long pct is always controversial and everyone has a differing opinion but no matter where i look clomid/nolva is almost always included. im scared to not incorporate either.

run clomid at 25mg ed with the suggested pct if you feel you need it, won't hurt but not necessary

 

[joeblow12345]

I would drop test to 500 mgs week. But its up to you.

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[pojo18]

run clomid at 25mg ed with the suggested pct if you feel you need it, won't hurt but not necessary

so clomid 25/25/25/25 ? got cha. The ai will prevent gyno so i wont need nolva on hand right?

 

[FLEX4USML]

Looks good.Id raise dbol to 40mg/50mg,but youve got the right idea.

 

[EZ_E]

what about dropping the clomid, using the nolva and everything else recommended? quite honestly im scared to pct w. out a SERM. planning a cycle was easy but having been researching so long pct is always controversial and everyone has a differing opinion but no matter where i look clomid/nolva is almost always included. im scared to not incorporate either.

People fear change it's only natural (no pun intended)

Times must, and always do, change my friend

~EZ

 

[pojo18]

People fear change it's only natural (no pun intended)

Times must, and always do, change my friend

~EZ

no offense but thats not a good enough reason for me not to include a serm haha.

 

[pojo18]

I would drop test to 500 mgs week. But its up to you.

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600 a little too much?

 

[joeblow12345]

600 a little too much?

I feel it is for a first cycle. 500 will do plenty for several cycles.

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[Judo Tom]

EZ_E nailed it.. thats a great pct and ive used it a few times and loved it..

post cycle / unleashed / forma

GREAT way to recover!!!!!

no one likes clomid they just take it because the guy before them took it..

 

[pojo18]

EZ_E nailed it.. thats a great pct and ive used it a few times and loved it..

post cycle / unleashed / forma

GREAT way to recover!!!!!

no one likes clomid they just take it because the guy before them took it..

whats the best place to purchase these products and are their any deals on them?

 

[Judo Tom]

orbitnutrtion.com
needtobuildmuscle.com

should have it all

discounts are all over the board just do some quick searching.. if not pm me and ill find it for you

good luck

 

[Premo1]

I would use the clomid as well as other products mentioned if for nothing else your piece of mind you seem too concerned to leave it out

 

[RADAR]

for Discount at NTBM use RADAR15 will get you 15% off.

 

[EZ_E]

no offense but thats not a good enough reason for me not to include a serm haha.

No worries, no 1 is holding a gun to your head...

~EZ

 

[pojo18]

I would use the clomid as well as other products mentioned if for nothing else your piece of mind you seem too concerned to leave it out

I am considering it, i like your idea. , thanks to everyone though who has contributed. this is a good board full of helpful people

 

[RADAR]

Except it also full of conflicting information too!

 

[pojo18]

Except it also full of conflicting information too!

yes i have noticed this lol!

 

[joeblow12345]

yes i have noticed this lol!

There are different methods that work for different people so youll have lots of ideas. Then you have people that have no clue what they are talking about who feel the need to chime in. You will learn whats best for you after you run a couple different drugs on different cycles. But the general guidelines still apply. First cycle 1-2 drugs max, with an ai, hcg, cycle support for the specific drug used, ie orals use liver support, and a solid pct. Which drug you use is up to you. Be careful though some drugs are not for beginners, like tren. I used test e first run and I loved it, but if you want a short run test p is good or an oral cycle. Choose one that meets your needs and go for it after you all your homework.

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