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Nelson Montana

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Me and needto have been working on an advanced protein formula that will be like NOTHING ELSE on the market.

Here's the premise. It works in FIVE ways.

One: It's a protein powder designed to be ultra slow releasing -- something that will maintain anabolism far longer than a standard protein supplement.

Two: It's a formula that's designed to be taken before bedtime to avoid overnight catabolism and to promote ultimate nitrogen retention. Remember...when you sleep is when most muscle growth takes place. Most proteins fall short of making the most of this vital time. This new formula will continue working for up to 8 hours!

Three: This will be the only protein supplement that has immunity enhancing and testosterone building properties along with peptides to promote faster gains.

Four: This formula will contain natural carbs for a genuine, delicious sweet taste, yet they will be COMPLEX carbs.

Five: This formula is a BULKING drink. If you're not interesting in gaining size, MOVE ON! This stuff will pack on the pounds! It will be high in EFA's and other essential "good" fats and have the highest calorie intake ounce for ounce.

This stuff has been a while in the making and now it looks like it's ready to go. Oh, and by the way. It will taste AMAZING.

One thing -- the ingredients are going to be far beyond the typical protein powder. This will be state of the art, ultra high quality -- similar to GEAR, but in a bulking formula so it will be a few dollars more. There was no other way around it. In order to make any profit we have to chage a bit more because the raw ingredients are TWICE that of an ordinary whey protein. But if you don't mind spending a little bit more for a LOT more muscle, this stuff is for you.

We're holding off on the name until everything is ready to go. But this time we're not going to tease you. Approximate arrival time is December. And off course, EF members will have first shot at it and at a special discount rate.

So there it is. We're really excited about this and we think you will be too. We guarantee , if you use this stuff on cycle, you can use half the dosages you normally do and get comparable gains. It is going to be un-fucking-believably awesome. And that's no exaggeration. You'll see for yourself very soon.
 
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sign me up!!!!
 
I'm in.
BB protein would be a Wonderful name BTW.

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Ha! We got a name and its very cool. We just don't want to say anything until everything is trademarked.

Seriously, you will gain a solid 10 pounds in less than a month on this stuff.
 
DAMN...and i thought Big Blast was an awesome step up from my old powder... i gained like crazy and had to cut back my dosage on that stuff already. If I cut back anymore after trying this new stuff I'm gonna have to take a test SUPPRESSOR so I don't get too damn big :) Looking forward to trying it... any idea when we can expect to see a general breakdown of it's nutritional info? And perhaps a list of delicious flavors?
 
DAMN...and i thought Big Blast was an awesome step up from my old powder... i gained like crazy and had to cut back my dosage on that stuff already. If I cut back anymore after trying this new stuff I'm gonna have to take a test SUPPRESSOR so I don't get too damn big :) Looking forward to trying it... any idea when we can expect to see a general breakdown of it's nutritional info? And perhaps a list of delicious flavors?

No doubt, BIG BLAST is the best around. That was one of the reasons we didn't want to even attempt another gainer because BIG BLAST had it covered. But BIG BLAST is a high glycemic drink, making it perfect for post workout so we wanted to have a slow release formula. You can use both for an even more intense effect. The new product will also have a few things BIG BLAST does not. But BIG BLAST contains creatine and this one won't. So you can mix and match to suit your needs.

We're going with fruit flavors -- strawberry and banana for sure. Maybe a couple of others. The test samples taste like melted ice cream.
 
Me and needto have been working on an advanced protein formula that will be like NOTHING ELSE on the market.

Here's the premise. It works in FIVE ways.

One: It's a protein powder designed to be ultra slow releasing -- something that will maintain anabolism far longer than a standard protein supplement.

Two: It's a formula that's designed to be taken before bedtime to avoid overnight catabolism and to promote ultimate nitrogen retention. Remember...when you sleep is when most muscle growth takes place. Most proteins fall short of making the most of this vital time. This new formula will continue working for up to 8 hours!

Three: This will be the only protein supplement that has immunity enhancing and testosterone building properties along with peptides to promote faster gains.

Four: This formula will contain natural carbs for a genuine, delicious sweet taste, yet they will be COMPLEX carbs.

Five: This formula is a BULKING drink. If you're not interesting in gaining size, MOVE ON! This stuff will pack on the pounds! It will be high in EFA's and other essential "good" fats and have the highest calorie intake ounce for ounce.

This stuff has been a while in the making and now it looks like it's ready to go. Oh, and by the way. It will taste AMAZING.

One thing -- the ingredients are going to be far beyond the typical protein powder. This will be state of the art, ultra high quality -- similar to GEAR, but in a bulking formula so it will be a few dollars more. There was no other way around it. In order to make any profit we have to chage a bit more because the raw ingredients are TWICE that of an ordinary whey protein. But if you don't mind spending a little bit more for a LOT more muscle, this stuff is for you.

We're holding off on the name until everything is ready to go. But this time we're not going to tease you. Approximate arrival time is December. And off course, EF members will have first shot at it and at a special discount rate.

So there it is. We're really excited about this and we think you will be too. We guarantee , if you use this stuff on cycle, you can use half the dosages you normally do and get comparable gains. It is going to be un-fucking-believably awesome. And that's no exaggeration. You'll see for yourself very soon.
Finally , people making stuff for us hard gainers. I can consume 4800 cals a day and workout as hard as I can and still have a hard time gaining. Im ready for this stuff! I'm still waiting on my big blast should be ere next week!
 
DAMN...and i thought Big Blast was an awesome step up from my old powder... i gained like crazy and had to cut back my dosage on that stuff already. If I cut back anymore after trying this new stuff I'm gonna have to take a test SUPPRESSOR so I don't get too damn big :) Looking forward to trying it... any idea when we can expect to see a general breakdown of it's nutritional info? And perhaps a list of delicious flavors?

Big blast is a great protein and lb for lb better then any normal protein out there. Big blast is the protein you replace your every day protein with if you want to replace your every day protein with nothing but the best every day protein. YOu can take big blast cutting, Maintaining or bulking. And I am not going to lie Big blast will prob be cheaper then the protein master peace I am about to unleash to the world.








First off this new protein nelson and I have coming out is 3 years in the making almost. We been tossing the ideas on this protein back and forth over phone cals for literally years now. It was not until Just recently the last peace to the puzzle was found and now the birth of this new protein can take place. I mean This is going to be that big of a deal its going to be like Me and nelson finely said " let there be light" and then the protein was hovering over the horizon!!

So why did it take so long? WHat were the problems we where faced with in trying to make the perfect all bulking protein?

I can not even count how many times I have been asked by my reps, it has been mentioned to me on the forums, some one has asked for it on the phone , email or in a pm. Needto dude when are you going to make a bulking protein???? Something for mass mass mass!!..

Hence Problem number 1 and of course the last problem to get solved. I have always stood 100% firm that all bulking shakes are a damn rip off. Nothing more then a 200.00 10lb jug fat blubber 2000.

I have always told people if you want a bulking shake just make your own. Because all the do is take a regular protein shake and then add 50 cups of worthless sugars, carbs, sucrose and crap to it. Pile it up with crappy fats ala muscle milk stile and Of course some 110lb kid is going to gain a little weight off of something like this..

Sustenance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are the elite , we are not some young kids trying to get a 20 spot of dad to go the local mom/pop shop and get some cheap crap.. We have been at this for years and every lb of muscle from here on out is earned twice as much as the last one was.

So a real true bulking shake with sustenance is a must. Not cheap fillers, not simple carbs, sugars, crappy fats and not a 50lb tab for 200.00 with only 10 servings in it..

What we needed to come up with first is a real source of carbs that would be a " complex carb" . My friends When I say a complex carb I am betting half of you right now are already thinking I put oatmeal , oats fiber barley or something along these lines.

I am not going to reveal my source of complex carbs just yet but I can promise you NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THIS BEFORE!!!!!!!!!! NO ONE!!!!!!!!!!

Now I need to run back to my house I will be back in a bit to finish up the story
 
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interesting .... and yet ... I for instance try to cut carbs after 8pm. if not I will pack on pounds .. but that will not be muscle.
how do you guys address that? Nelson and Needto??
 
interesting .... and yet ... I for instance try to cut carbs after 8pm. if not I will pack on pounds .. but that will not be muscle.
how do you guys address that? Nelson and Needto??

It's more simple carbs that need to be cut. You need a little carb to assimilate protein. A lot of those carb free protein drinks are inferior because the protein doesn't even get utilized.

We also believe the only way to get a drink to taste REALLY good, you need a little natural sugar. (I hate an all sucrolose drink. They taste like ass). That was a problem. How do we get a natural sugar that isn't high glycemic? Well, we found a carb source that is not only naturally sweet but releases super slowly. Then we added a few ingredients to slow it down even more so there's virtually no insulin spike. Instead, the carb (and insulin) is released slowly, providing just enough of a carb source to make the protein active and provide maximum anabolism.

Now after a workout, you may want an insulin spike to replace glycogen storage. That's where BIG BLAST rules. But at night, you want S-L-O-W released carbs and protein. And so far, there's been nothing that comes close to this new formula. It's like having an intravenous source of aminos ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT. THAT, is going to make a huge difference.
 
It's more simple carbs that need to be cut. You need a little carb to assimilate protein. A lot of those carb free protein drinks are inferior because the protein doesn't even get utilized.

We also believe the only way to get a drink to taste REALLY good, you need a little natural sugar. (I hate an all sucrolose drink. They taste like ass). That was a problem. How do we get a natural sugar that isn't high glycemic? Well, we found a carb source that is not only naturally sweet but releases super slowly. Then we added a few ingredients to slow it down even more so there's virtually no insulin spike. Instead, the carb (and insulin) is released slowly, providing just enough of a carb source to make the protein active and provide maximum anabolism.

Now after a workout, you may want an insulin spike to replace glycogen storage. That's where BIG BLAST rules. But at night, you want S-L-O-W released carbs and protein. And so far, there's been nothing that comes close to this new formula. It's like having an intravenous source of aminos ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT. THAT, is going to make a huge difference.

well - now that does make sense. thanks for the explanation.
i am interested.
 
Me and needto have been working on an advanced protein formula that will be like NOTHING ELSE on the market.

Here's the premise. It works in FIVE ways.

One: It's a protein powder designed to be ultra slow releasing -- something that will maintain anabolism far longer than a standard protein supplement.

Two: It's a formula that's designed to be taken before bedtime to avoid overnight catabolism and to promote ultimate nitrogen retention. Remember...when you sleep is when most muscle growth takes place. Most proteins fall short of making the most of this vital time. This new formula will continue working for up to 8 hours!

Three: This will be the only protein supplement that has immunity enhancing and testosterone building properties along with peptides to promote faster gains.

Four: This formula will contain natural carbs for a genuine, delicious sweet taste, yet they will be COMPLEX carbs.

Five: This formula is a BULKING drink. If you're not interesting in gaining size, MOVE ON! This stuff will pack on the pounds! It will be high in EFA's and other essential "good" fats and have the highest calorie intake ounce for ounce.

This stuff has been a while in the making and now it looks like it's ready to go. Oh, and by the way. It will taste AMAZING.

One thing -- the ingredients are going to be far beyond the typical protein powder. This will be state of the art, ultra high quality -- similar to GEAR, but in a bulking formula so it will be a few dollars more. There was no other way around it. In order to make any profit we have to chage a bit more because the raw ingredients are TWICE that of an ordinary whey protein. But if you don't mind spending a little bit more for a LOT more muscle, this stuff is for you.

We're holding off on the name until everything is ready to go. But this time we're not going to tease you. Approximate arrival time is December. And off course, EF members will have first shot at it and at a special discount rate.

So there it is. We're really excited about this and we think you will be too. We guarantee , if you use this stuff on cycle, you can use half the dosages you normally do and get comparable gains. It is going to be un-fucking-believably awesome. And that's no exaggeration. You'll see for yourself very soon.
Hey Nelson, I saw your video ad for big blast after you posted on my low calorie everything topic , I ordered some, and am waiting in a bag now. About how many calories can I expect in one serving ? I got it loaded with pretty much everything and sweetened with stevia. I was using the serious mass from ON but it gums up my stomach so bad due to all of the sticky and starchy carbs, also as 250g of carbs and 50 g of protein per 2 scoops which is why I only do one scoop because there's no way that your body can digest all of that in one setting. All in all I just think its too much crap, I've also heard that te average top notch athlete can only digest about 30 g tops of protein in one setting, is that accurate? And thank you! Can't wait to try big blast!!
 
Hell yeah, give me some of this shit NM. Can't wait till I get my hands on this. Going to buy a lot of it.:cool: best shit I heard all night, work is killing my ass tonight.
 
Hey Nelson, I saw your video ad for big blast after you posted on my low calorie everything topic , I ordered some, and am waiting in a bag now. About how many calories can I expect in one serving ? I got it loaded with pretty much everything and sweetened with stevia. I was using the serious mass from ON but it gums up my stomach so bad due to all of the sticky and starchy carbs, also as 250g of carbs and 50 g of protein per 2 scoops which is why I only do one scoop because there's no way that your body can digest all of that in one setting. All in all I just think its too much crap, I've also heard that te average top notch athlete can only digest about 30 g tops of protein in one setting, is that accurate? And thank you! Can't wait to try big blast!!


250 grams of CARBS?!?! Holy shit. That's a bucket of sugar bro. BIG BLAST has 46 grams of protein, (including super plasma, which is 100% digested) 32 grams of carbs and 3.5 grams of fat.

The new formula will be higher in (good) fat than BIG BLAST. It's really for the hardgainer. It will be the highest caloric drink ounce per ounce on the market. And the taste and mouthfeel in downright sinful!
 
I dont believe you guys on this Protein, I think you should send some to a Hard Gainer like myself for a test :).
 
interesting .... and yet ... I for instance try to cut carbs after 8pm. if not I will pack on pounds .. but that will not be muscle.
how do you guys address that? Nelson and Needto??

By forcing the carbs where they need to go through insulin and nutrition uptake manipulation. Not only will this protein have a slow digesting complex carb source. It will also have a force behinf it that drives these carbs to your muscles throughout the entire time they are being broken down slowly.

Not only is it the first ever of its kind when it comes to the complex carb source. Not only is it the only "true" complex carb source ever found in a protein. But the entire 8 hours they are being broken down they will then be driven into the muscles yes even when your sleeping.

The results you wake up ready to kill the world. Your muscles wake up filled with energy , rested, rejuvenated.

Anyone here like me. Wake up and would love to go to the gym but I feel weak all day long until I have had a few meals in me. If I go to the gym in the am forget it I lose about 25lb on my bench and more on other lifts.

My muscles are weak and run down in the morning. Fasting stores of ATP, glocogen and carbs have been sucked completely dry during sleep. Well guess what? Not any more!!!!

This Protein will not cause fat gain but it will cause weight gain . Instant weight gain at that. More strength, more endurance and all this coming right out the gate as soon as you wake up.
 
It's more simple carbs that need to be cut. You need a little carb to assimilate protein. A lot of those carb free protein drinks are inferior because the protein doesn't even get utilized.

We also believe the only way to get a drink to taste REALLY good, you need a little natural sugar. (I hate an all sucrolose drink. They taste like ass). That was a problem. How do we get a natural sugar that isn't high glycemic? Well, we found a carb source that is not only naturally sweet but releases super slowly. Then we added a few ingredients to slow it down even more so there's virtually no insulin spike. Instead, the carb (and insulin) is released slowly, providing just enough of a carb source to make the protein active and provide maximum anabolism.

Now after a workout, you may want an insulin spike to replace glycogen storage. That's where BIG BLAST rules. But at night, you want S-L-O-W released carbs and protein. And so far, there's been nothing that comes close to this new formula. It's like having an intravenous source of aminos ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT. THAT, is going to make a huge difference.

Exactly.. Like I was just saying... The carbs are slow released yet the formula we have added to it also cause enough spike to force these carbs and protein into the muscles over the entire 8 hour process.

WHat we did was took the night time muscle stack we created and slammed it all into one product then gave it a complexe carb source too. Last link to the puzzle.

You are right. With out the rise in insulin activity caused by the complex carbs and the insulin matrix not a lot would make it to the muscles. Now all of it is getting driven into the muscles and not out your ass or in your ass lmao.
 
Big blast is a great protein and lb for lb better then any normal protein out there. Big blast is the protein you replace your every day protein with if you want to replace your every day protein with nothing but the best every day protein. YOu can take big blast cutting, Maintaining or bulking. And I am not going to lie Big blast will prob be cheaper then the protein master peace I am about to unleash to the world.








First off this new protein nelson and I have coming out is 3 years in the making almost. We been tossing the ideas on this protein back and forth over phone cals for literally years now. It was not until Just recently the last peace to the puzzle was found and now the birth of this new protein can take place. I mean This is going to be that big of a deal its going to be like Me and nelson finely said " let there be light" and then the protein was hovering over the horizon!!

So why did it take so long? WHat were the problems we where faced with in trying to make the perfect all bulking protein?

I can not even count how many times I have been asked by my reps, it has been mentioned to me on the forums, some one has asked for it on the phone , email or in a pm. Needto dude when are you going to make a bulking protein???? Something for mass mass mass!!..

Hence Problem number 1 and of course the last problem to get solved. I have always stood 100% firm that all bulking shakes are a damn rip off. Nothing more then a 200.00 10lb jug fat blubber 2000.

I have always told people if you want a bulking shake just make your own. Because all the do is take a regular protein shake and then add 50 cups of worthless sugars, carbs, sucrose and crap to it. Pile it up with crappy fats ala muscle milk stile and Of course some 110lb kid is going to gain a little weight off of something like this..

Sustenance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are the elite , we are not some young kids trying to get a 20 spot of dad to go the local mom/pop shop and get some cheap crap.. We have been at this for years and every lb of muscle from here on out is earned twice as much as the last one was.

So a real true bulking shake with sustenance is a must. Not cheap fillers, not simple carbs, sugars, crappy fats and not a 50lb tab for 200.00 with only 10 servings in it..

What we needed to come up with first is a real source of carbs that would be a " complex carb" . My friends When I say a complex carb I am betting half of you right now are already thinking I put oatmeal , oats fiber barley or something along these lines.

I am not going to reveal my source of complex carbs just yet but I can promise you NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THIS BEFORE!!!!!!!!!! NO ONE!!!!!!!!!!

Now I need to run back to my house I will be back in a bit to finish up the story



Now the second problem Nelson and I were faced with was HIGH CALORIES. This is yet one more reason why I have always hated the bulk shakes on the market today. Because every other bulk shake has high calories but what good are they when these calories are ether worthless or wasted anyway.

When you use the every day bulk shake often its filled with high worthless fats and a huge amount of worthless simple sugars. So even though the shake is 1100 calories or more half of this is worthless and the other half ends up coming out your ass thus also worthless.

So what we needed to come up with is something that is high in calories but not worthless calories. Then force all of these calories where they need to go not out your ass.

That is exactly what nelson and I have done. The protein shake will be somewhere around 850+ calories per serving and all of these calories will get used by the body. None of them worthless calories and non of them wasted calories.


Not only is the carb source we are using 100% complex it is the most anabolic carb source known to date. HMMM Kind of a hit for you guys. And with my culinary skills I am able to not only use it but make it taste good too. :Popcorn::Popcorn:
 
Sounds great, can't wait to try it out.

Is it Casein based?

To be a little more exact on the protein source then Nelson was. It will be blend of blood serum plasma protein ( same kind I use in gear) , Whole egg protein, bovine colostrum protein, rounded out by a special kind of milk protein isolate.

In other words the best damn protein profile your ever going to get!!! :rose:
 
OK OK I can't stand it I have to let the cat out of the bag.. This will be the first protein shake on the market to ever use a 100% true complex carb. A complex carb I think almost all of us are ok with adding to our diet and many of us already due.

I was sitting around thinking about the product as I often do with product Ideas like this. Some one called me and We started a discussion about the protein bars and how I flavored the fruit flavored protein bars. I explained to them that I use what is called Freeze dried fruit. I use a all natural all organic freeze dried fruit powder. How they make this is the take organic natural fruits and then using a special process that zap it and instantly freeze the fruit and dry the fruit all within the same millisecond. Then poof the fruit turns into a powdered fruit dust. Everything that was in the fruit is still in tact its still all there only now its completely dried and in a dry powder form. Once you add even the slightest bit of liquid back into the fruit it almost instantly turns back into fresh fruit again.

As I was explaining this to that person it hit me like a ton of brinks and I stop dead mid conversation. "Excuse me bro but I have to go, I got an Idea and I can not let this one slip my mind. Ill call you back"
I hung up the phone and called Nelson...

Nelson bro I have it!!!! What that needto? Thacarb source bro! Well out with it!!

Freeze dread sweet potatoes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT?? how in the wtf is that shit never heard of it? Well no I don't think anyone has ever invented it or even thought of it yet lmao.. I mean who would use it and for what? But we are going to get it made and its going in our protein shake I can tell you that right now...

See as I was talking to the other guy two thoughts hit me. 1. I have made protein shakes using fresh sweat potatos before and they taste pretty damn good. The sweet potato is sweet and mixes easy into the shake.
And then other thought was of course OMG If you freeze dry a sweet potato then you can put it into a pre made protein shake and the dry ingredient will last as long as the rest. When you add any bit of water or milk boom in terns back into sweet potato . Trust me with my culinary skills I will make it taste good too. You will not even know its in there.

WHo in there right mind can tell me pure all natural all organic sweet potato is a complex carb source they would not add to their diet? Exactly it is the perfect source for complex carbs in the shake. with its low glacimic level of 54 its perfect for the formula we are looking for. Slow sustained release of carbs over time that are also driven into the muscles. The potato even ups the protein its self too ha ha its brilliant!

Among root vegetables, sweet potatoes offer the lowest glycemic index rating. That’s because the sweet potato digests slowly, causing a gradual rise in blood sugar over a prolonged period of time. In the formula this will drive the worlds best protein source into our muscles all night long or even all day long during the day.

Now we have combined the most anabolic protein source with the worlds greatest ever carb source. CSPI ranked the sweet potato number one in nutrition of all vegetables. With a score of 184, the sweet potato outscored the next highest vegetable by more than 100 points. Points were given for content of dietary fiber, naturally occurring sugars and complex carbohydrates, protein, vitamins A and C, iron and calcium. Points were deducted for fat content (especially saturated fat), sodium, cholesterol, added refined sugars and caffeine. The higher the score, the more nutritious the food.

What is the one carb every dietition says you can have late at night? fibrous carbs, slow digesting low glicemic carbs and that is exactly what the sweet potato is and it is the most anabolic carb source you can get. A large sweet potato yields nearly 40 grams (g) of slow-digesting carbs that help keep blood sugar stable, an important factor in encouraging an anabolic state.

Lets face it you can not top the sweet potato and now its in the damn shake!!!!!!!!!
 
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This protein shake is money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The more I think about it the more I think we need to pat our selves on the back for this one nelson.
 
I cannot wait. I stopped using shakes along time ago because it just turned to fat and went straight to my gut. Finally, a REAL protein shake that actually works instead of a bunch of fillers that turns to FAT. Thanks Nelson and Needto!!!
 
This protein shake is money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The more I think about it the more I think we need to pat our selves on the back for this one nelson.
Man your so Money you don't even know it. this thread keeps making me more exicted about this. Is the name of the product Money N2?
 
Man your so Money you don't even know it. this thread keeps making me more exicted about this. Is the name of the product Money N2?

Look at the rest of my product line up.. I mean the name is so simple , so easy and yes its money.. Me and nelson where like HMMM what should we call it.. Nelson said it and I was like Well duh of course we have to call it that lmao.

N2-Bulk
 
So this is gonna replace my Casein Protein before I go to sleep? :-) How many servings is this puppy? How many servings required before bed?

And while bulking, is this lean muscle being put on or will I lose some of my abs?
 
Look at the rest of my product line up.. I mean the name is so simple , so easy and yes its money.. Me and nelson where like HMMM what should we call it.. Nelson said it and I was like Well duh of course we have to call it that lmao.

N2-Bulk

Okay, now that cats out of the bag, we'll give you a little more of a tease.

Yep, the name says it all. Need2 BULK This is for when you want MAXIMUM GROWTH.

We can't give the exact amounts because that'll tip too many people off who like to steal out ideas. But here are some of the ingredients in N2 BULK


Sweet Potato Powder -- Superior complex carb course

Super Plamsa Protein --- The most advanced protein on the planet.

Colostrum -- Immunity enhancing, recuperation and IGF-1 growth factors

Whole egg -- Contains the exact amino acid ratio of human mothers milk, plus "good" cholesterol for hormonal health. This is not the case with just egg white. The yolk contains the corresponding aminos and the fats. It also slows the absorbtion rate.

Victoria Milk Protein. The slowest released protein available. Also the sweetest tasting.

Oat Powder -- slows absorption even more, making the protein available for over 8 hours.

EFA solids -- good fats for muscle repair, increased calories and a great texture.

Omega Muscle -- this contains DHA, lactoferrin and alpha linioloc acid. It contains carbs but are released at the rate of fats.

Leucine peptides -- BCAA's produce the most muscle of all aminos and Leucine is the most powerful of the three. Leucine turns to pure glutamine in the bloodstream. So why not use glutamine? Because not all oral glutamine is assimilated. This is a Leucine PEPTIDE and ALL of it becomes 100% glutamine.

Plus a few other surprises.

As you can probably tell, these ain't no cheap ass ingredients. Every one of them is more expensive than standard, protein, carbs and fats. The Leucine peptides alone are ultra expensive. The processing for the sweet potato costs a lot. Super plaama protein is 50 bucks a pound. So let's be real -- we're not fucking around with this formula. It is damn serious. But we're convinced it's worth it. We believe this will send growth to another level. Whether you're natural or enhanced, expect BIG gains when you decide you need some BULK.
 
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Thatll be a perfect formula to supplement my regiment now! I was just thinking about how I need more protein intake, but I dont want to take any more fast acting protein......:Chef:
 
Just in just time for the winter bulk.
Dam it bro I want it now! Lol you guys have me so excited ill be counting the days til december.

Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL
 
So this is gonna replace my Casein Protein before I go to sleep? :-) How many servings is this puppy? How many servings required before bed?

And while bulking, is this lean muscle being put on or will I lose some of my abs?

It will be leaps and bounds better than casein per bedtime.

It will come in a 2 pound bag. And honestly, if you're looking to cut or to get lean BULK may not be for you. It's strictly a size supplement -- not that it'll make you fat, but you have to have the ned for extra calories to grow and that's hard for some guys. But anyone can take a small serving as a before bed snack to prevent catabolism and insure nighttime growth.
 
It may come in 5lb bags though, And it may be tweaked a bit for different reasons before final. The base Idea and formula is done and Trust me and nelson will finalize formula by Wednesday of next week and Better believe Nothing is holding this thing back. This is not a announce now come out next year product. If this product does not come out by mid Jan at the very latest Ill give a pound of protein to everyone in this thread. But we have a release date in mind that is way way before this...

Nelson sent me what he feels should be the final formula but I am not done with it yet. NOw its my turn to add my goodies!!! Then we will have a final formula..
That is how we've always done this lmao...
 
It would be sweet if there was some fenugreek in there to up T as well. A 2-in-one natty bulker. Help guys on-cycle prevent shutdown, help guys off cycle with natty test support.
Just a thought.
 
Okay, now that cats out of the bag, we'll give you a little more of a tease.

Yep, the name says it all. Need2 BULK This is for when you want MAXIMUM GROWTH.

We can't give the exact amounts because that'll tip too many people off who like to steal out ideas. But here are some of the ingredients in N2 BULK


Sweet Potato Powder -- Superior complex carb course

Super Plamsa Protein --- The most advanced protein on the planet.

Colostrum -- Immunity enhancing, recuperation and IGF-1 growth factors

Whole egg -- Contains the exact amino acid ratio of human mothers milk, plus "good" cholesterol for hormonal health. This is not the case with just egg white. The yolk contains the corresponding aminos and the fats. It also slows the absorbtion rate.

Victoria Milk Protein. The slowest released protein available. Also the sweetest tasting.

Oat Powder -- slows absorption even more, making the protein available for over 8 hours.

EFA solids -- good fats for muscle repair, increased calories and a great texture.

Omega Muscle -- this contains DHA, lactoferrin and alpha linioloc acid. It contains carbs but are released at the rate of fats.

Leucine peptides -- BCAA's produce the most muscle of all aminos and Leucine is the most powerful of the three. Leucine turns to pure glutamine in the bloodstream. So why not use glutamine? Because not all oral glutamine is assimilated. This is a Leucine PEPTIDE and ALL of it becomes 100% glutamine.

Plus a few other surprises.

As you can probably tell, these ain't no cheap ass ingredients. Every one of them is more expensive than standard, protein, carbs and fats. The Leucine peptides alone are ultra expensive. The processing for the sweet potato costs a lot. Super plaama protein is 50 bucks a pound. So let's be real -- we're not fucking around with this formula. It is damn serious. But we're convinced it's worth it. We believe this will send growth to another level. Whether you're natural or enhanced, expect BIG gains when you decide you need some BULK.

Damn looks great. Can't wait for the finished product. N2 and NM are not playing around, once again stepping up the supplement game!:)
 
It may come in 5lb bags though, And it may be tweaked a bit for different reasons before final. The base Idea and formula is done and Trust me and nelson will finalize formula by Wednesday of next week and Better believe Nothing is holding this thing back. This is not a announce now come out next year product. If this product does not come out by mid Jan at the very latest Ill give a pound of protein to everyone in this thread. But we have a release date in mind that is way way before this...

Nelson sent me what he feels should be the final formula but I am not done with it yet. NOw its my turn to add my goodies!!! Then we will have a final formula..
That is how we've always done this lmao...


Yeah, we're so excited about this we're considering a few last minute tweaks. It depends on the taste. If the new additions don't effect the flavor, or perhaps improve it, they're a go. If they effect the flavor negatively, they won't go in. Right now the stuff tastes INCREDIBLE, but we also want it to be the premier protein of proteins! In the meantime, all the labeling and such in in production so there's no hold up for the release date.
 
It will be leaps and bounds better than casein per bedtime.

It will come in a 2 pound bag. And honestly, if you're looking to cut or to get lean BULK may not be for you. It's strictly a size supplement -- not that it'll make you fat, but you have to have the ned for extra calories to grow and that's hard for some guys. But anyone can take a small serving as a before bed snack to prevent catabolism and insure nighttime growth.

The part in bold is what i'm talking about. So if I take it in a smaller serving just to insure I get the amount of protein my body needs before bed... it'll still be better than my Gold Standard Casein?

Right now i'm using Isoflex and GS Casein as my drinks. I am about to purchase some Big Blast along with this when this comes out. Hopefully I can see a little difference. I don't mind gaining weight at all. But I don't want to put on any fat.
 
The part in bold is what i'm talking about. So if I take it in a smaller serving just to insure I get the amount of protein my body needs before bed... it'll still be better than my Gold Standard Casein?

Right now i'm using Isoflex and GS Casein as my drinks. I am about to purchase some Big Blast along with this when this comes out. Hopefully I can see a little difference. I don't mind gaining weight at all. But I don't want to put on any fat.

Yes, it'd be a perfect substitute and far more effective. We should mention, although BULK is designed to do what it says, it can be used by anyone as anti catabolic night time drink. In fact, it would be phenomenal for that. But taking a few servings a day will definitely add on pounds! So make sure that's what you want!
 
Supplement industry... for the lol's

Do I even need to workout to gain the 10lbs or is this gonna put 10lbs on regardless?
 
WHo in there right mind can tell me pure all natural all organic sweet potato is a complex carb source they would not add to their diet?

This is the key! They cant be some low bottom garbage potatos, its got to be the best carb source possible and be compatible with the protein.
Gotta be a step up from putting olive oil in a protein shake cuz that ain't worth a fuck! Most people don't even realize that most of there protein sources are useless in the body!
LOOKING FORWARD TO GIVING THIS A TRY.
skinny fat endomorphic hardgainer
 
Supplement industry... for the lol's

Do I even need to workout to gain the 10lbs or is this gonna put 10lbs on regardless?


You'd probably gain 10 pounds either way. How much of it is muscle depends on your training!
 
Tweaking the protein digestion matrix, the insulin matrix and playing hard ball with nelson on switching out the oatmeal for a much better carb source I have found. I personally do not want the instant outs in this product but will see how it goes.
 
Clever with the freeze drying carb source guys!
But my question is when you will have a N2-Grow... Coz everyone needs to grow haha

Ha! The name GROW has already been used by my old bosses at T-Mag, though I never really liked the stuff.
 
OK we have completed the formula and Nelson and I settled on the perfect forumla... Onyl one change from the one Nelson posted up before and that was switching out the instant outs for a different carb source I felt would be way way better for this products break down.. So now the final formula is final and here is is bro's...

1.all natural all organic Freeze dried Sweet potato powder
Sweet Potato Ranks Number One In nutrition and no one in there right mind can deny this fact. However just to be clear!!

nutritionists at the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI)ranked the sweet potato number one in nutrition of all vegetables. With a score of 184, the sweet potato outscored the next highest vegetable by more than 100 points. Points were given for content of dietary fiber, naturally occurring sugars and complex carbohydrates, protein vitamins A and C, iron and calcium. Points were deducted for fat content (especially saturated fat), sodium, cholesterol, added refined sugars and caffeine. The higher the score, the more nutritious the food

Sweet potato baked 184

Potato, baked 83
Spinach 76
Kale 55
Mixed Vegetables 52
Broccoli 52
Winter Squash, Baked 44
Brussels Sprouts 37
Cabbage, Raw 34
Green Peas 33
Carrot 30
Okra 30
Corn on the Cob 27
Tomato 27
Green Pepper 26
Cauliflower 25
Artichoke 24
Romaine Lettuce 24

Now I dare anyone to tell me they have a better protein shake?? PFFFFT Hands down N2BM new N2bulk cripples the competition this is the worlds Healthies bulking shake on the planet. But are we done with this> NOpe lets keep the fun facts going. The numbers for the nutritional sweet potato speak for themselves: almost twice the recommended daily allowance of vitamin A, 42 percent of the recommendation for vitamin C, four times the RDA for beta carotene, and, when eaten with the skin, sweet potatoes have more fiber than oatmeal. And guess what?? The Freeze dried sweet pots we use are the whole potato my friend with skin!!! OMG!!! We are killing that shit!!

Among root vegetables, sweet potatoes offer the lowest glycemic index rating. That’s because the sweet potato digests slowly, causing a gradual rise in blood sugar so you feel satisfied longer. Which is exactly what we were looking for in this slow time released bulk shake. But what about the second carb sourse we will be using? Yes we will get to this and I will explain why I felt it was of the up most importance to use my other new carb source over the instant oats..

but what else? It is high in antioxidants, iron, calcium and anti-inflammatory properties, and it offers a sweet taste to other bland carbohydrates

But what kind of test do we have to " prove" the awesomeness of sweet ptotatos?

"Diabetes is an insidious disease whose early symptoms include weakness, fatigue, weight loss and tingling in the hands and feet.6 Left untreated, the disease can have lethal effects on your health. In a study involving rats to determine sweet potato’s effects on several markers of diabetes, the vegetable showed significant abilities to potentially reel in some of the more harmful markers.1 Using white-fleshed sweet potatoes for the study, the rats showed impressive improvement in pancreatic cell function, lipid levels, and glucose management. They also showed reduced insulin resistance inside of just eight weeks. Improved insulin resistance was also discovered in a human study when sweet potatoes were added to the diet."



This next part is only a quote O have taken and I would never claim this...

March 10, 2004 -- An extract from white sweet potatoes may help prevent type 2 diabetes.
The product is Caiapo, sold in Japan and South Korea by the Japanese firm Fuji-Sangyo. It's made from the skin of white sweet potatoes grown in Japan's mountainous Kagawa Prefecture. Eaten raw, these sweet potatoes are a folk remedy for anemia, high blood pressure -- and diabetes.
Caiapo extract prevented diabetes in rat studies. Fuji-Sangyo funded human tests at the University of Vienna in Austria. The results of those studies, led by Bernhard Ludvik, MD, appear in the February issue of Diabetes Care.
Every morning, Ludvik gave two bulky Caiapo tablets -- or two equally bulky inert placebo pills -- to 61 people with type 2 diabetes who were treated with diet only. All study participants went on a weight-maintenance diet during the study. After three months, those who took Caiapo -- but not those taking placebo -- saw their HbA1C levels drop from 7.21 to 6.68. HbA1C indicates blood sugar levels during the past three months. People with diabetes are supposed to keep their HbA1C levels below 7.0.
"This is lowering HbA1C to a level which is almost normal," Ludvik tells WebMD. "This is comparable to any drug."
Ludvik says that five-month data show that those taking Caiapo continued to have lower HbA1C levels. What's happening, he says is that something in the extract is helping patients regain their sensitivity to insulin. Resistance to the action of insulin to lower blood glucose is one of the abnormalities seen in people with type 2 diabetes. It is also one of the early signs of type 2 diabetes.
"In my opinion, in this potato extract there seems to be some kind of insulin-sensitizing agent," Ludvik says.
In rat studies, Ludvik says, Caiapo has as strong an effect as glitazone drugs. Glitazones -- such as Avandia and Actos -- are potent insulin-sensitizing drugs.
Although he warns that long-term data are not available, Ludvik says he saw no side effects from Caiapo except for some very mild gastrointestinal upset in a few patients. None of them stopped treatment because of these side effects.
"I think it could be given to any patient with insulin resistance," Ludvik says. "We have not shown this in our clinical trials, but I think it would be very good in diabetes prevention."

I just think it is awesome that some one else said it and not me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


1. Grotto, D. 101 Foods That Could Save Your Life. New York: Bantam Bell; 2008.

2. Lila MA. Anthocyanins and Human Health: An In Vitro Investigative Approach. J Biomed Biotechnol. 2004;(5): 306–13.

3. Available at: Ten Worst and Best Foods. Accessed December 28, 2009.

4. Bovell B. Sweet Potato: a review of its past, present and future role in human nutrition. Adv Food Nutr Res. 2007;52:1-59.

5. Available at: Symptoms - American Diabetes Association. Accessed December 28, 2009.

6. Grodstein F, Kang JH, Glynn RJ, Cook NR, Gaziano JM. A randomized trial of beta carotene supplementation and cognitive function in men: the Physicians’ Health Study II. Arch Intern Med. 2007 Nov 12;167(20):2184-90.

7. Washio M, Mori M, Sakauchi F, et al. Risk Factors for kidney cancer in a Japanese population: findings from the JACC study. J Epidemiol. 2005 Jun; 15 Suppl 2:S203-11.



2 Next up in our new bulk shake
Super Plamsa Protein --- The most advanced protein on the planet.​

Gear- The best protein supplemet around.
just read what this can do and then think of having a whole crap laod of it in a serving of this new bulking protein powder>>> exactly!!!!!!!!!!!


3rd on our list is Victoria Milk​

Slam packed with Calcium, Phosphorus, Potassium, Bcaa's and glutamine!! But I bet some of you are wondering exactly what the hell is Victoria Milk????????????

Well to put it simple it is yet another example of how I go big or go home!! How I search the world over to get nothing but the best in a product when it comes time to make a product that stands above the rest Nelson and I spare no expense.

You may find a small Article about this pure organic milk on Pf's web site however I do not feel it gives it the justice it deserves. Why is it called Victoria Milk? The question is as important as the story behind it IMO.. The milk is Names as it is because it comes from Brunswick a small suburb in Victoria Australia .
What is so great about the Milk coming from this Area? Thus what is so great about the milk protein coming from this Area?
First Victoria Milk is slower digesting then normal milk protein and 2nd its 10 times as sweet with 10 times less fat and less lactose?? How in the world can it be sweeter yet have less lactose?

Well that is simple my friends its made from 100% all natural all organic un tainted fresh nature fed(pasture-based fed) cows and made from "SKIM MILK" What this means is the cows all the cows from this region eat only what nature gives them to eat out in the pasture. Remember Nelson and I are creating " the healthiest bulking shake on the planet" here. By now I am sure I do not even have to explain to you the massive difference between natural grass fed cows and the filth that is placed in your super markets today.

Yes even the so called all organic milk you buy at the super market is crap compared to real all natural grass fed cows milk. And the prof is in the taste and texture. OK but why not just get grass fed cows milk from some local farm here in the USA?
HMM Lets take a look at a few fun facts.

This Brunswick Victoria Australia is a very very small population and well cows and dairy farms is their expertise. I researched the farms in this area to find out what else sets them apart from the rest of the world..

What is great about dealing with little tiny family owed farms like this is that gather facts on every single cow on their farm is easy as can be. Here are the facts about the avg farm from this Area.


1. Now more then 1-5 cows per hectare!! AAAH that means about an Acer of land bro's// In other words No under nourished cows, no diseased ridden cows all slam packed into this tiny spot. How manhy cows per Hector in most US farms? Hundreds!!


2. 80-90% of cows in typical herds were 6 years of age or younger and the heifer replacement rate was typically 20-25% per annum. So what does this mean? It means the cows are young , fresh, vibrant and healthy ..
The cows in Brunswick Victoria Australia are a site of beauty my friends.

The farmers of these small farms are smart dudes. Every couple of years they have this HUGE cattle Auction called the Victorian new year weaner cattle sales
WHat all these local Farmers have done is they have made a world wide famous Cattle auction. Where the rest of the cattle world ( retarded USA farmers) think they are getting these retardedly cheap cattle. They all band together as small farms to have this huge auction and do what????????? LMAO sell off all the old ass cows to Other farmers around the world. Use the money to buy Young cows...

In doing so they keep the avg age of all Milk cows on all Dairy farms within the Area under the age of 6 years old!!!! All of this takes place at the Central Victorian Livestock Exchange ..

These farmers know what they are doing when it comes to raising cattle for milk.. In fact the milk and dairy products from this region have become world renowned. To give you an Idea of how smart these farmers are they happen to be the worlds leader in Agricultural science yet they are still smart enough to feed their gows grass and not the crap the USA feed their cows today..

But what kind of cows do they have at the farm where we get Victory milk?????????????

O my friends this is the cherry on the cake of course. Along with the fact that all the cows are young, all of them are fed Grass , all organic all natural . Victorain milk comes from a special farms with nothing but the best cows known as Illawarra

And it is the milk of the Illawarra that is 10 times as sweet as any other milk in the world and yes this is even documented as fact too. The breed has won hundred of awards for its sweet buttery flavored milk and its also known world wide as having on of the highest protein contents per any kind of milk that can come from cows. Even its skim milk which is what we use is as sweet as candy and super high in protein.

So there you have it... Yes I went through all this trouble to research this milk and the reason I did so is because I give a damn about what is going into the products I make!!!


NEXT ON the list??????????Whole egg protein​

-- Contains the exact amino acid ratio of human mothers milk, plus "good" cholesterol for hormonal health. This is not the case with just egg white. The yolk contains the corresponding aminos and the fats. It also slows the absorption rate.
If you do not understand the importance of Hole egg protein then just go kill your self now...

We have taken the worlds greatest farms of protein we could get and combined them all into 1 epic super bulk protein shake.

This is exactly what people have been searching for for a life time. This is the standard of which all that can be called " the perfect healthy bulking shake" is now measured against. And When you are talking perfection in a bulk shake whole Egg is a must as part of the formula!!

NEXT!! I am sure everyone is wondering what I wanted to switch out the instant outs for and why I thought it was imperative that we do so. Nelson is the god father of Bolvine protein . He is the Mack daddy of protein and He knows protein better then any man I know..

SO When I wanted to make the perfect bulking shake I knew I had to get nelson involved and as I said we been working on this for 3+ years or more...

Let it Be known though that I needtogetaas/Nathan chase Before the year 2011 is over will be known as the God father of Carbohydrate brake through science . Not only for What is about to be a Industry first with my invention of the Freeze dried Organic Sweet Potato ( which I put on record right now this very day I came up with the Idea first before anyone and I will give it a trad marked name) But also because of Another carb product I will have coming out soon and also because of this next carb we will be adding to the N2_bulk..

So The carb sourse replacing instant oats is??? Don don don... MOD6!!!!

Mod6 Carb is a patented blended carbohydrate powder originally developed by the USDA
. Mod6 Carb is a super food that is a phenomenal choice for super bulk supplementation. Mod6 Carb consists of oat bran, amaranth, buckwheat, chia, millet, and quinoa. Not only is Mod6 carb all natural, but it contains naturally occurring electrolytes, fiber, and protein. Mixes and tastes very good


“Real Fuel”: The intact structure of Mod6 Carb™’s complex carbohydrates allows it to release glucose, the body’s number-one fuel source, at a more natural pace and rhythm compared to simple sugars or maltodextrin. Mod6 Carb™ formulations help avoid the hypoglycemic “sugar crash” often experienced from products containing simple carbohydrates and sugars. This is a real advantage for athletes in training, for dieters who want to dodge those sudden, panic-filled cravings, or for individuals who have been experiencing the “energy dip” during the day.


“Intact Nutrition”: Today everyone recognizes the value of whole food nutrition. Mod6 Carb™ is a complete food product in a whole-grain matrix. The macronutrients in Mod6 Carb™ are a whole food source of complex carbohydrates, protein, and essential fatty acids. Compare this with maltodextrin, a high-glycemic index carbohydrate produced by the hydrolysis of starch that has been isolated from corn, rice or potato. Maltodextrin has essentially been stripped of its original nutritional value solely for its simple carbohydrate content. This greatly impacts how it is metabolized in the body and how it affects your physical appearance and performance.


“Protein-Backed”: Unlike maltodextrin and other carbohydrates that have been chemically stripped of much of their original nutritional value, Mod6 Carb™ is densely packed with naturally-occurring macro- and micronutrients, including a “backbone” of proteins supplying a total of 15,331 mg of amino acids per 100 g. Mod6 Carb™ contains 18 different amino acids in total, including all of those required to support tissue protein synthesis in the human body. The protein energy supplied by Mod6 Carb™ may further contribute to its appetite-quenching power.


“Full Spectrum”: Every serving of Mod6 Carb™ contains muscle- and energy sustaining amounts of all three essential macronutrients –carbohydrates, proteins and fats—all derived from an expertly proportioned blend of six whole grains. Practically speaking, it would be exceptionally difficult to obtain such a diversified blend of grains from the diet alone.


“Active and Soluble”: Beta-glucans’ health benefits are driven by their viscosity, which in turn is dependent on their solubility (ability to dissolve in solution) and on the weight of their molecules. As intended, Protein Factory' patented Trim® technology effectively concentrates the beta-glucan molecules with no loss of molecular weight or biological activity. This has been confirmed by USDA researchers (12). Consequently, Mod6 Carb™ is readily soluble. Other manufacturers use chemicals or enzymes to extract beta-glucan. This causes the molecules to break down (depolymerization), resulting in a loss of molecular weight, solubility, viscosity and health benefits.


“EFA-Backed”: Mod6 Carb™ contains naturally-occurring polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fatty acids, including those of the omega-3, omega-6 and omega-9 families. Omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids are considered essential to the human diet. Other carbohydrates common to dietary supplements and functional foods (e.g. maltodextrin and starches) contain no essential fatty acids (EFAs).


“Electrolyte-Charged”: Mod6 Carb™ contains naturally-occurring electrolytes including potassium, calcium, and sodium. Its high ratio of potassium to sodium supports lean muscle development and cardiovascular health. Most Western diets are higher in sodium than potassium. This does not support the cytoplasm of our cells which has a higher potassium level than sodium. A diet high in potassium and low in sodium favors better muscle cell hydration, whereas the opposite (i.e. high sodium, low potassium diet) tends to draw water out of the muscle cell. Loss of muscle cell hydration, in turn, promotes muscle catabolism and atrophy (loss of muscle cell size).


“Heart Healthy”: The amount of oat beta-glucan in Mod6 Carb™ far exceeds the daily level of intake (3 g/day or 0.75 g/serving) recommended by the FDA to help lower blood cholesterol (24)


“All-Organic”: All of the grains in Mod6 Carb™ are certified 100% organic. Again I wanted this Bulk Shake to be as healthy as we coupld make it. As all natural and as all organic as we could get it.


“Gluten-Free”: Mod6 Carb™ is a gluten free food. and yes the entire N2-bulk protein shake is Gluten FREE





“Vegetarian”: Mod6 Carb is 100% vegetarian.


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“No Corn”: Mod6 Carb™ contains no ingredients from corn.


“Non-GMO”: Mod6 Carb™ does not contain any ingredients derived from genetically modified organisms.




what is next
EFA solids -- good fats for muscle repair, increased calories and a great texture. So we took out any bad fats and replaced them with nothing but the good fats needed for bulking. Ya we went that extra mile on this one guys... Believe it or not without these fats you can not build muscle...esential fatty acids (EFA) cannot be made by the body, thus must be supplied through the diet. They are essential for rebuilding and producing new cells. EFA powder is a dietary fat concentrate based upon total milk protein and vegetable oil rich in essential fatty acids (linoleic acid gamma-linolenic acids, alpha-linolenic and eicosapentaenoic acid). The product is encapsulated by total milk protein, known for its high anabolic and anti-catabolic value.

But why the above fats? What makes them so important and what do they do needto? WHy did you add them?

What Do They Do?

Transport oxygen from red blood cells to the tissues
Promote brain development
Keep saturated fats mobile in the blood stream
Are an anti-inflammatory (rheumatoid arthritis, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease)
Regulate pressure in the eye, joints, and blood vessels, and mediating immune response
Regulate bodily secretions and their viscosity
Dilate or constricting blood vessels
Regulate collateral circulation
Reduces blood pressure / Dilates blood vessels
Regulate cell division rate
Maintain the fluidity and rigidity of cellular membranes
Regulate the inflow and outflow of substances to and from cells
Direct endocrine hormones to their target cells

Maintain proper kidney function and fluid balance
Prevent blood cells from clumping together (blood clots that can be a cause of heart attack and stroke)
Regulate smooth muscles and autonomic reflexes
Regulate nerve transmission and communication
Support cardiovascular health

Just for starters ^^^^



Leucine peptides had to be added and nelson said it the best I can not top it--

BCAA's produce the most muscle of all aminos and Leucine is the most powerful of the three. Leucine turns to pure glutamine in the bloodstream. So why not use glutamine? Because not all oral glutamine is assimilated. This is a Leucine PEPTIDE and ALL of it becomes 100% glutamine.




Omega Muscle -- this contains DHA, lactoferrin and alpha linioloc acid. It contains carbs but are released at the rate of fats.

I have got to elaborate this one.. ^^^

Obtained from the world's finest Canadian flaxseed supply, this one of a kind flax/fish oil combination, (a first in the supplement industry) contains alpha-linolenic acid, eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA), and docosahexanenoic acid (DHA) in a stable powder form. Using an advanced patented engineering technology the fish oil is naturally encapsulated in the milled flaxseed.

The main problem with omega 3 fatty acids is stability and taste. Flax seed oil is the best source of omega 3 fatty acids, a potent weapon for muscle building and bodyfat reduction. The problem with flax seed oil is that it is very unstable, meaning that it will turn rancid rapidly. Flax seed oil must be kept cold and consumed within weeks of the manufacturing date for it to be good. OmegaMuscle is made using patented technology that keeps the product STABLE GUARANTEED FOR ONE YEAR!.

The second problem with flax seed oil is the taste. With OmegaMuscle, because of its freshness and quality, you can barely and I mean barely taste the flax seed powder. This makes adding it to your protein shakes even more enjoyable.


OK NOW That WRAPS UP THE FORMULA RIGHT?

WRONG!!!!!!


By now everyone has to be thinking to them self. HMM If I could design the worlds greatest bulking protein shake ever this is what I would put in it ^^ I mean we took everything known about perfect supplementation and put it all into a shake. The worlds best proteins topped with the worlds greatest protein enhancer/octane booster. Loaded it up with good fats, pulled out any and everything they mite even be the slightest bit useless or bad for you in anyway. revolutionized the entire industry by coming up with the world first and only sweet potato carb source coupled with 6 other super carbs derived from the world most healthiest grans and veggies.

We used the most expensive all organic all natural skim milk from world renowned farms. We even added the incredible eatable EGG and went the extra healthy muscle building mile adding in flax seed anf fish oil..

OK lets just stop and think about the above master peace for a second before we ask the huge question I know is on everyone mind right now. Lets stop and ask a very popular question.
If you asked any forum out there. If you asked any pro body builder or health nut or doctor to make a shopping list of the most healthiest , anabolic, muscle building , fat burning diet foods. what would that list look like and why?

Guys!!!! Its hear, it has been created!! The body builders shopping list is above the words I am typing right now ain't it guys? Ain't it^^ The Nutritional Needs of a bodybuilder (all of them every last single one of them has been met in the above formula" With the exception of quick carbs being needed post work out. Other then that wtf else could you possible add to your shopping list??? NOTHING!!!

Now let us Go ahead and ask the question on everyone mind here today. HOW IN THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THIS TASTE GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think we have all tried to make a shake like the above shake or something close to it .. Anyone who has been going at this for long enough . I know damn well anyone who has stepped on a pro stage has given making this kind of a shake a honest shot!!! and I am betting you all failed miserable!!

Well Don't you guys worry about all that. If there is one thing I know its taste. After all I am a master chef of 14+ years now. I have a degree in culinary arts and I spent 4 years in the US Army as a cook were I went to advanced culinary arts school. Something only a hand picked few get to experience and go through. Special training for people Who Are hand picked to be personal chefs for the 4-5 star generals. Which was what was planed for me before My tour was abruptly ended. I am a published the Author of " the Anabolic kitchen "

Mite I add that the anabolic kitchen sold more copies in its first 6 month debut then any other book sold on this site. Considering its a cook book selling on a steroid forum I think that is a damn fine record to hold. Also considering All other books are sold by hundreds of other affiliates and My book sold here on elite only no where else Until after is rise to popularity . Assume because others thought A cook book could not sell well on steroid forums lol..



Lets cut to the chase

Think Cinnamon Sweet potato Pie but with a odd twist only a true chef could come up with my friends.

Ok so lets think about this what is needed to make a good Sweet potato Pie? HMm Well sweat potato of course
check!

Then butter is almost always used but hey we got plenty of good fats in the shake and we got the victora milk so ok
check!

Then Sugar is needed HMMM. I am not going to use sugar and I will be damned if I use some Artificial sweetener in this shake. So what could I turn too? AAA Good old 100% natural all organic Stevia and just a smeggit of course.
CHECK!

Then most people add some cream to the pie. Again we got our self victora Milk but just to be on the safe side lets remember the efa's we used are encapsulated by total milk protein . so will give this a
CHECK!! To

Eggs is always needed in the recipe
CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK!!!

freshly ground cinnamon would come next and yes O yes we added a healthy does of this. Even enough to help with its insulin effecting proprieties ( in a good way do a google search)
CHECK!!!

Next most would add Vanilla extract but I went with Real yup str8 up all natural all organic Vanilla Beans Baby who does it right? Needto of course as always. The secret to making great food is "FRESH" and simple. Keep it simple and keep it fresh.
Check!!!

then some salt and most peoples Sweet potato Pie would be complete... HOwever as a master chef I learned a little trick many many years ago when it comes to making a good sweet potato pie. See sweet potato yes is sweet for the most part but it also has a slight tang almost bitterness after taste. Most Avg chefs or cook at home moms would load in the piles of brown sugar and hope to mask that little bit of bitterness with a ton of sugar sweetness lmao.. Hey Its not a bad Idea but its not the healthiest and Of course I know a better way..

Caramelized banana!!! would be added to my sweet potato pie why yes it would. I would Take a banana slice it up , fry it at low temp till its a golden brown and then mush it up and mix it into the pie. This golden sweet banana flavor over powers the bitter after taste of a sweet potato every time.

Food science at its most simple form. When it comes to after taste the last taste in our mouth is what ever sticks around the longest. The sweetness of banana is suspended in the bananas natural oils and when it comes to after taste between potato starch and banana oils , Banana wins every time!!

WHy yes it sure does sound like something weird to add to a sweet potato pie don't it. But then of course that is why its a trick most people do not know now ain't it.

Together nelson and I have made The imposable possible. We have made the worlds best damn protein shake ever. The one everyone of us have been dreaming about all or muscle building lives. But just never could make it come together.

Nelson dude, I am sitting here thinking to my self right now. Thinking wow man how the the world are we ever going to top this one dude? Is this it for us? I mean have we reached the top of perfection lolol This shake is so damn perfect I am almost scared of it. Like There is no where to go but down from here?

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I am sure some day our brains will come together again and op this master peace . For now lets all bask in its glory.



I would have to close with nelsons last words.

As you can probably tell, these ain't no cheap ass ingredients. Every one of them is more expensive than standard, protein, carbs and fats. The Leucine peptides alone are ultra expensive. The processing for the sweet potato costs a lot. Super plasma protein is 50 bucks a pound. So let's be real -- we're not fucking around with this formula. It is damn serious. But we're convinced it's worth it. We believe this will send growth to another level. Whether you're natural or enhanced, expect BIG gains when you decide you need some!!!!

UM Like ya dude you are not kidding. This is the Land Rover, The Mustang Shelby cobra of all bulking protein shakes. As we always do we tossed price out the window until formulation was over. That is the way you and I have always done this and that is he way we will keep doing it. When it comes to master formulas you ether go big or just go home.
 
sounds awesome needto to bad austraila have fuck up custom laws so there for all protein powder containing egg protein is banned ....fml
 
I think needto pretty much covered it. No doubt, BULK s in a league by itself. I just wanted to reiterate one point. The Victoria milk protein. This stuff is really amazing.

I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with Rheo Blair. He was a nutritional genius and was the first (and one of the few) nutritional supplement designers who actually made supplements that were superior to food sources. (Unlike most other companies that just used crap soy protein). Blair discovered that mixing whole egg with milk created the same amino acid ratio as human mothers milk -- the perfect ratio designed for growth. The bodybuilders at the time who were given free supplements from Weider for endorsing them, were paying TOP DOLLAR to have Blairs protein -- BECAUSE THAT SHIT ACTUALLY WORKED!

That concept is PART of the formula with bulk. Obviously, the super plasma takes it to another level. But the Victoria milk is something else. It's essentially SUPER milk! And the SLOWEST digesting protein available. AND NO ONE ELSE HAS IT!

Between the carb and fat source, super plasma ad Victoria milk, BULK is THE MOST ANABOLIC food you can take at night. When the body is asleep and absorbing protein for growth, BULK feeds the muscle tissues with a slow steady stream of high quality predigested amino peptides.

The Victoria milk also keeps the Leucine working for hours on end. L Leucine is the most significant amino acid you can take! For bodybuilders it's the NUMBER ONE amino. Now you can have it working for you all night. Instead of entering a catabolic state, you'll be in a maximum anabolic state when you need it most.

Now BULK is super high calorie, so this is where you have to decide how to use it. If you're concerned with keeping your weight down, it should be used only at night. BUT...if you need to bulk, THIS WILL WORK MIRACLES. Seriously, NOTHING will pack on pounds better. I don't care how skinny you are. I don't care how hard it is for you to gain. BULK will do what it says. 2-3 servings a day and you can expect to be 10 pounds heavier in two months. GUARANTEED.

And yeah, it's tastes great.
 
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sounds awesome needto to bad austraila have fuck up custom laws so there for all protein powder containing egg protein is banned ....fml

WHAT??????????????????? You got to be fringing kidding me?

Well I tell ya what. If over 10 thousand bottles of beastdrol and products like it can be successfully united with friendly AUSY buds Me thinks We will have no trouble getting you bro's some N2-BULK!@!!WWQQQ :heart::heart:
 
WHAT??????????????????? You got to be fringing kidding me?

Well I tell ya what. If over 10 thousand bottles of beastdrol and products like it can be successfully united with friendly AUSY buds Me thinks We will have no trouble getting you bro's some N2-BULK!@!!WWQQQ :heart::heart:

It gets quarantined man.. They're scared of mad cow and stuff like that haha, because we have such a big farming industry. Cant get many 'live' products, obviously egg doesn't = mad Cow. But hidden bacteria and stuff. I got pulled up coz I was on a farm in Europe... For a day... Quarantine for like a day at airport making sure nothing was contaminated haha.
 
I think needto pretty much covered it. No doubt, BULK s in a league by itself. I just wanted to reiterate one point. The Victoria milk protein. This stuff is really amazing.

I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with Rheo Blair. He was a nutritional genius and was the first (and one of the few) nutritional supplement designers who actually made supplements that were superior to food sources. (Unlike most other companies that just used crap soy protein). Blair discovered that mixing whole egg with milk created the same amino acid ratio as human mothers milk -- the perfect ratio designed for growth. The bodybuilders at the time who were given free supplements from Weider for endorsing them, were paying TOP DOLLAR to have Blairs protein -- BECAUSE THAT SHIT ACTUALLY WORKED!

That concept is PART of the formula with bulk. Obviously, the super plasma takes it to another level. But the Victoria milk is something else. It's essentially SUPER milk! And the SLOWEST digesting protein available. AND NO ONE ELSE HAS IT!

Between the carb and fat source, super plasma ad Victoria milk, BULK is THE MOST ANABOLIC food you can take at night. When the body is asleep and absorbing protein for growth, BULK feeds the muscle tissues with a slow steady stream of high quality predigested amino peptides.

The Victoria milk also keeps the Leucine working for hours on end. L Leucine is the most significant amino acid you can take! For bodybuilders it's the NUMBER ONE amino. Now you can have it working for you all night. Instead of entering a catabolic state, you'll be in a maximum anabolic state when you need it most.

Now BULK is super high calorie, so this is where you have to decide how to use it. If you're concerned with keeping your weight down, it should be used only at night. BUT...if you need to bulk, THIS WILL WORK MIRACLES. Seriously, NOTHING will pack on pounds better. I don't care how skinny you are. I don't care how hard it is for you to gain. BULK will do what it says. 2-3 servings a day and you can expect to be 10 pounds heavier in two months. GUARANTEED.

And yeah, it's tastes great.

Also pointed out by my head of sales is the fact that our formula is 100% All natural, 100% organic, and 100% GLUTEN FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go ahead and add that as the cherry on top of this unbelievable so good for you its retarded bulk shake cake we have baked for everyone..

O did I mention how We flavored it to make it taste like a glorified 5 star master chefs Sweat potato pie? Well just in case I forgot that part I figured I would repeat it :Chef::Chef::Chef::Chef:
 
Will this mix well in a shaker cup or is a blender needed? Please say it mixes well, I do not have access to blenders where I am!!!

Definetly excited to try this protein out!
 
A blender is always best. You can mix it in a cup but it'll take some work. You might be better off getting one of those portable single mix blenders.
 
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WHAT??????????????????? You got to be fringing kidding me?

Well I tell ya what. If over 10 thousand bottles of beastdrol and products like it can be successfully united with friendly AUSY buds Me thinks We will have no trouble getting you bro's some N2-BULK!@!!WWQQQ :heart::heart:[/QUOTE

so im not 100% on this but i think the cut off is when a protein powder has 10% egg protein or more
 
WHAT??????????????????? You got to be fringing kidding me?

Well I tell ya what. If over 10 thousand bottles of beastdrol and products like it can be successfully united with friendly AUSY buds Me thinks We will have no trouble getting you bro's some N2-BULK!@!!WWQQQ :heart::heart:[/QUOTE

so im not 100% on this but i think the cut off is when a protein powder has 10% egg protein or more

No offense intended to Aussies but what the fuck kind of law is that?......

Why does it matter how much egg is in your protein?

Unfortunately with the stupid fucking DSSA they just slipped under our noses the U.S. seems to be headed this way too......mostly thanks to the stupid pro athletes who don't think about what greater consequences their lies will have. "I swear, all I was taking was monohydrate......."


^THREAD HIJACK RAGE^:mad::mad::mad:...........:supercool
 
No offense intended to Aussies but what the fuck kind of law is that?......

Why does it matter how much egg is in your protein?

Unfortunately with the stupid fucking DSSA they just slipped under our noses the U.S. seems to be headed this way too......mostly thanks to the stupid pro athletes who don't think about what greater consequences their lies will have. "I swear, all I was taking was monohydrate......."


^THREAD HIJACK RAGE^:mad::mad::mad:...........:supercool

Hahaha sorry to hear man. Sadly it's the government which doesn't usually too much practical experience are the ones who impose the ridiculous laws lol
 
Hahaha sorry to hear man. Sadly it's the government which doesn't usually too much practical experience are the ones who impose the ridiculous laws lol

Yea you're absolutely right. I read on the other page that its because of mad cow.......still doesn't make much sense to me why you would allow a certain percent of egg as if 10% egg protein couldnt contain prions but 11% could lol
 
Hey hi, I am a newbie to this forum. Have witnessed some really nice and very interesting threads here..was actually about to post my comment there but then thought why not to introduce myself first.
Hope will have a nice time here
 
Holy santa clause shit.... Ive been mia for a while but this is exactly what id like to come back to... id love to replace my big blast with some ntbm as its about the product i buy outside of the company... cant effin wait
 
Will there be any pre sale on this or do you guys suspect youll have enough to go around? do we have a price and lb figure?
 
Holy santa clause shit.... Ive been mia for a while but this is exactly what id like to come back to... id love to replace my big blast with some ntbm as its about the product i buy outside of the company... cant effin wait

BIG BLAST will still be the best thing you can take post workout. BULK will be more for the severely underweight and as a nightime/anti catabolic formula. The two can be taken together for even better gains. We're not sure of the exact release date and the rpice but needto will make an announcement soon.
 
Big Blast will still be the best thing you can take post workout. BULK will be more for the severely underweight and as a nightime/anti catabolic formula. The two can be taken together for even better gains. We're not sure of the exact release date and the rpice but needto will make an announcement soon.

I am one who sturggles to put on big weight even with a good diet and pounding cals on diesel. Sounds like it might make for a good morning protein shake as well. either way looking foward to using this product. Ill def be one of the first in line only have two jugs of bb left.
 
What will this do for the bulkier types?
6'1, 210lbs, 16% BF
Thinking of adding 1 scoop of this at night to my Beastdrol cycle in Feb.
 
Look its simple... If you want to gain muscle mass you take N2-bulk!!! If you want the worlds healthiest bulking shake ever created then you take N2-bulk. If your diet, training and cycle is centered around gaining as much damn muscle as you can with gaining as little fat as you can. Then you take N2-Bulk and you take it morning noon and night.. THIS IS NOT JUST FOR NIGHT TIME

I repeat I did not create this product just for night time shake and to be honest I did not create it to be a pre bed Protein shake at all. Yes you bet your ass its great for this but that is not why I am making this product plan and simple....

You want the best damn bulk shake money can buy for any time of day. Then you guy this product... As it is filled with slow release carbs it is not the best choice for post work out..

However I have a new carbohydrate coming out in less then 3 weeks for post work out. This new carb is twice as fast acting as waxie maize and it burns off its own calories .. Hard to explain but I will have the full write up when it comes out. It is the words fastest carb, its new not used and I am the only one who has it... WM-HDP is the name of it and its exclusive to N2BM .. So if you want post work out then just ass this to any shake..

Especially you peeps who want clean!!! Who want that insulin spike after a work out but want your diet to be clean ... I would explain it like this.. This new carb I got company out will create a instant insulin spike and then burn off its own calories as if you never used it at all. Insulin spike from almost 0 extra calories.
 
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Announcement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I got my N2-bulk today and I am very pleased. Even with as good a chef as I am and the great recipe Idea I came up with I half way expected that the N2-bulk would still taste like vomit..

I mean when I look at the product I think wow this is the worlds healthiest protein shake I have ever seen. So there is just no way it can taste good. I was expecting to not even be able to get it down lmao..

OK so here is my opinion of the N2-bulk taste and texture.
1. Its taste is pretty good.
2. Its smooth and goes down smoooooooooooooth and easy.
3. Texture is awesome.
4. Yes I enjoyed drinking it.
Taste B . Texture A

Now I then said well ok hmmm can I do anything to it to make it taste better. YUP!!!!!! I added a scoop of All Natural peanut butter and like magic the damn drink was so good I made a second one lmao.

I feel people are going to enjoy drinking the product but most of all is how damn good and healthy this shake is. How much good it is going to do for people.. This is the shake we have all been dreaming off and We made it enjoyable on top of that.

This goes into production Next week. :heart:
 
AWESOME - I'm in
 
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