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Biden "Fully Undersands" China's One Child Policy

Does that create dissidence? I don't understand how it's immoral to prevent people from living a lifetime of misery??? People in the US don't want to hide children from the state because they get a free ride.Ya know?

IDK? In my head forced anything is immoral especially less forced loss and sterilizations..adoptions..whatever. In a situation where abortion and birth control are available parents are free to consider the opportunity cost of bringing a child into the world. People who can't feed their children typically don't need the government to prevent them from having kids especially if there is no free ride.
 
IDK? In my head forced anything is immoral especially less forced loss and sterilizations. In a situation where abortion and birth control are available parents are free to consider the opportunity cost of bringing a child into the world. People who can't feed their children typically don't need the government to prevent them from having kids especially if there is no free ride.


You are right fettered politics always constitutes dissidence. Love the economic term, and the political overtone, and the moral order regarding natural rights.

Emmeline Pankhurst, Mother Theresa, and Alexsander Hamilton all in one.

You are right, you're smarter than me...
 
IDK? In my head forced anything is immoral especially less forced loss and sterilizations..adoptions..whatever. In a situation where abortion and birth control are available parents are free to consider the opportunity cost of bringing a child into the world. People who can't feed their children typically don't need the government to prevent them from having kids especially if there is no free ride.

how is a one-child limit more "forced" than other laws? taking care of your kids is "forced" also (except in maryland ;)), and so is jury duty and pet vaccinations
 
how is a one-child limit more "forced" than other laws? taking care of your kids is "forced" also (except in maryland ;)), and so is jury duty and pet vaccinations

This seems like a "Why is a raven different from a writing desk?" question. One is a tyrannical government violating human rights and the other is just jury duty/pet vaccinations...I'm not going to sit here and say "My god! Population control is JUST LIKE jury duty and pet vaccination laws so I need to be okay with both" lol

When I used the word forced, of course I make exceptions to that ;)... most people don't live without making some exceptions (except maybe the most extreme libertarian lol) though I don't think anyone needs to be forced by the government to get pet vaccinations either...idk in my head reproduction is a human right. Forced abortions, sterilizations, and that type of invasion of privacy is unethical. In an ideal world such a government shouldn't even be allowed to exist. Those thoughts tend to diminish the value of children and humans in general. This is why we see people caring more about trees, rocks, air and water than people. :) I don't see how he could "fully understand and not second-guess" that.
 
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pfft, so? The whole world needs this policy. I think that and i'm the third born in my family. It's not a matter of if, but WHEN the population gets too big for our food and natural supplies.

Will I/we see overpopulation, most likely not. But who wants their offspring to grow up in a world where there isn't enough food, space, natural resources to sustain life?

On a side note, I agree it shouldn't be forced by the government. But if the public voted for it, then let it be. Even if it wasn't to take effect for 100+ years. Who knows, a huge meteor could hit Earth before then and wipe out most of the midwest. The whole food shortage problem would be today and we would be screwed.

Whiskey
 
How much compassion did you have when you typed that? Maybe it is because I am a woman. Even so, as more countries become developed the less children they have. The human race has never been so well off. The world's food baskets are full, poverty is why people still go hungry. Governmental population control is economically harmful actually, so it does not help hunger at all. There is plenty of space. Overall, I believe in people's right to not have someone above them make such a decision for them. The older I get the more I think it's best I just stick with my one kid. Not because I need someone to force me, but because I don't think time or technology is going to fix what is broken inside of people.
 
Plenty of space? Where, in the dessert? Or upwards in a skyscraper? Perhaps built on a junk pile like Manhatten, or whichever NY city it is. Every year in America alone we lose millions of acres due to home, businesses, and highways being built. And a lot of that is farmland. The farmlands of the world are shrinking each day while the population keeps going up. It's just a matter of time.
......Gawd, I sould like a hippie

And how can gov pop control be economically hurtful when there are still people that are hungry and jobless? For instance, take away 100million people spread across the earth. There would be no reason for anyone to be jobless unless due to injury or illness. OR, what if those 100M souls were the homeless, there would be no more spending on feeding them or for health care. Taxes and costs of most items would go down. Economically helpfull.

Whiskey
 
Plenty of space? Where, in the dessert? Or upwards in a skyscraper? Perhaps built on a junk pile like Manhatten, or whichever NY city it is. Every year in America alone we lose millions of acres due to home, businesses, and highways being built. And a lot of that is farmland. The farmlands of the world are shrinking each day while the population keeps going up. It's just a matter of time.
......Gawd, I sould like a hippie

And how can gov pop control be economically hurtful when there are still people that are hungry and jobless? For instance, take away 100million people spread across the earth. There would be no reason for anyone to be jobless unless due to injury or illness. OR, what if those 100M souls were the homeless, there would be no more spending on feeding them or for health care. Taxes and costs of most items would go down. Economically helpfull.

Whiskey

So let's rid ourselves of a few billion people. Who has to go first?
 
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