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[mrplunkey]

I see your point, but I disagree with MY vision, I think it should be us as a nation deciding, I know its tough to find a lot we agree on, but that is a good thing, stick to what we agree on (the minority) and the majority of other issues are farmed out to states and local jurisdictions. The end result is smaller government.

Most Americans identify themselves as Christian. If they vote for a conservative Christian in 2012, isn't that a mandate for them to broadly implement what "we" seem to want?

Who knows, maybe they'll be teaching kids about a 10,000 year old Earth where man chilled out with the dinosaurs.

 

[Lestat]

Most Americans identify themselves as Christian. If they vote for a conservative Christian in 2012, isn't that a mandate for them to broadly implement what "we" seem to want?

Who knows, maybe they'll be teaching kids about a 10,000 year old Earth where man chilled out with the dinosaurs.

I think issue was thought up at the country's founding. Something about separation of church and state. Even if 100% of the people wanted a theocracy it is not gonna happen unless the constitution is rewritten.

 

[mrplunkey]

I think issue was thought up at the country's founding. Something about separation of church and state. Even if 100% of the people wanted a theocracy it is not gonna happen unless the constitution is rewritten.

The constitution prevents religious persecution and prohibits the state from taking-on an official religion. It doesn't stop religiously-motivated laws at all.

A future President Perry could easily leverage the existing administrative agencies to implement his evangelical beliefs just as Barry is implementing his environmental beliefs right now.

 

[-SD-]

"We dont do goverment well"

 

[mrplunkey]

"We dont do goverment well"

We would if it weren't for all those pesky Republicans!!!


(and if we could run $5T/year deficits)

 

[Lestat]

The constitution prevents religious persecution and prohibits the state from taking-on an official religion. It doesn't stop religiously-motivated laws at all.

A future President Perry could easily leverage the existing administrative agencies to implement his evangelical beliefs just as Barry is implementing his environmental beliefs right now.

As long as there is clear separation from church and state it wouldn't be illegal I suppose, just as implementing laws based on the zodiac isn't either.

Is that really the world you long for though? Just changing from one dogmatic ruler to the next and obeying their whims.

I always thought we'd continually modify and enhance our world as we learned more and more. That is why I am proud to call myself a progressive, I am a fan of PROGRESS. I don't think we should live today based on how much we knew about the world, ourselves, economy, life, death, war, peace 1000 years ago (or more or less).

We should be able to elect responsible leaders who can put their heads together and make intelligent decisions. We don't see a lot of that anymore, instead we see people pandering to one strong belief or another, and money will guide us the rest of the way.

You can't talk about doing things intelligently and the best possible way without being labeled an idealist either, so there really is no winning. Good thing for myself and others is, just like the fundamentalists, the people who long for a theocracy, the people who would love an authoritative state, we also won't just give up and roll over, we'll continue to blast ignorance with truth, and I do believe truth will ultimately win out in the end, not money, not dogma, not pandering to the lowest common denominator, and certainly not outright lies.

 

[-SD-]

I think money wins more often than not in this world.

 

[mrplunkey]

As long as there is clear separation from church and state it wouldn't be illegal I suppose, just as implementing laws based on the zodiac isn't either.

Is that really the world you long for though? Just changing from one dogmatic ruler to the next and obeying their whims.

I always thought we'd continually modify and enhance our world as we learned more and more. That is why I am proud to call myself a progressive, I am a fan of PROGRESS. I don't think we should live today based on how much we knew about the world, ourselves, economy, life, death, war, peace 1000 years ago (or more or less).

We should be able to elect responsible leaders who can put their heads together and make intelligent decisions. We don't see a lot of that anymore, instead we see people pandering to one strong belief or another, and money will guide us the rest of the way.

You can't talk about doing things intelligently and the best possible way without being labeled an idealist either, so there really is no winning. Good thing for myself and others is, just like the fundamentalists, the people who long for a theocracy, the people who would love an authoritative state, we also won't just give up and roll over, we'll continue to blast ignorance with truth, and I do believe truth will ultimately win out in the end, not money, not dogma, not pandering to the lowest common denominator, and certainly not outright lies.

My first choice is a immense downsizing of government. Constitutionally limit it's revenues to 5% of GDP and require a balanced budget every year.

But if I'm stuck with a big government, I'd much rather find myself in Perry's vision of the world than Obama's.

And no, "truth" (which incidentally, is your view of the truth) isn't winning. Money is winning. Unions give millions at a time to Barry because they expect a return on their investment, as do fossil fuel companies do with Republicans. If you want less government corruption, insure there is less government there to corrupt.

 

[*ebony*]

Plunks, lets get high together. Im a fun stoner.

 

[-SD-]

Plunks, lets get high together. Im a fun stoner.

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