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Is Obama Smart?

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Stephens: Is Obama Smart? - WSJ.com
Is Obama Smart?
A case study in stupid is as stupid does.

The aircraft was large, modern and considered among the world's safest. But that night it was flying straight into a huge thunderstorm. Turbulence was extreme, and airspeed indicators may not have been functioning properly. Worse, the pilots were incompetent. As the plane threatened to stall they panicked by pointing the nose up, losing speed when they ought to have done the opposite. It was all over in minutes.

Was this the fate of Flight 447, the Air France jet that plunged mysteriously into the Atlantic a couple of years ago? Could be. What I'm talking about here is the Obama presidency.

When it comes to piloting, Barack Obama seems to think he's the political equivalent of Charles Lindbergh, Chuck Yeager and—in a "Fly Me to the Moon" sort of way—Nat King Cole rolled into one. "I think I'm a better speech writer than my speech writers," he reportedly told an aide in 2008. "I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And I'll tell you right now that I'm . . . a better political director than my political director."

On another occasion—at the 2004 Democratic convention—Mr. Obama explained to a Chicago Tribune reporter that "I'm LeBron, baby. I can play at this level. I got game."

Of course, it's tempting to be immodest when your admirers are so immodest about you. How many times have we heard it said that Mr. Obama is the smartest president ever? Even when he's criticized, his failures are usually chalked up to his supposed brilliance. Liberals say he's too cerebral for the Beltway rough-and-tumble; conservatives often seem to think his blunders, foreign and domestic, are all part of a cunning scheme to turn the U.S. into a combination of Finland, Cuba and Saudi Arabia.

I don't buy it. I just think the president isn't very bright.

Socrates taught that wisdom begins in the recognition of how little we know. Mr. Obama is perpetually intent on telling us how much he knows. Aristotle wrote that the type of intelligence most needed in politics is prudence, which in turn requires experience. Mr. Obama came to office with no experience. Plutarch warned that flattery "makes itself an obstacle and pestilence to great houses and great affairs." Today's White House, more so than any in memory, is stuffed with flatterers.

Much is made of the president's rhetorical gifts. This is the sort of thing that can be credited only by people who think that a command of English syntax is a mark of great intellectual distinction. Can anyone recall a memorable phrase from one of Mr. Obama's big speeches that didn't amount to cliché? As for the small speeches, such as the one we were kept waiting 50 minutes for yesterday, we get Triple-A bromides about America remaining a "Triple-A country." Which, when it comes to long-term sovereign debt, is precisely what we no longer are under Mr. Obama.

Then there is Mr. Obama as political tactician. He makes predictions that prove false. He makes promises he cannot honor. He raises expectations he cannot meet. He reneges on commitments made in private. He surrenders positions staked in public. He is absent from issues in which he has a duty to be involved. He is overbearing when he ought to be absent. At the height of the financial panic of 1907, Teddy Roosevelt, who had done much to bring the panic about by inveighing against big business, at least had the good sense to stick to his bear hunt and let J.P. Morgan sort things out. Not so this president, who puts a new twist on an old put-down: Every time he opens his mouth, he subtracts from the sum total of financial capital.

Then there's his habit of never trimming his sails, much less tacking to the prevailing wind. When Bill Clinton got hammered on health care, he reverted to centrist course and passed welfare reform. When it looked like the Iraq war was going to be lost, George Bush fired Don Rumsfeld and ordered the surge.

Mr. Obama, by contrast, appears to consider himself immune from error. Perhaps this explains why he has now doubled down on Heckuva Job Geithner. It also explains his insulting and politically inept habit of suggesting—whether the issue is health care, or Arab-Israeli peace, or change we can believe in at some point in God's good time—that the fault always lies in the failure of his audiences to listen attentively. It doesn't. In politics, a failure of communication is always the fault of the communicator.

Much of the media has spent the past decade obsessing about the malapropisms of George W. Bush, the ignorance of Sarah Palin, and perhaps soon the stupidity of Rick Perry. Nothing is so typical of middling minds than to harp on the intellectual deficiencies of the slightly less smart and considerably more successful.

But it takes actual smarts to understand that glibness and self-belief are not sufficient proof of genuine intelligence. Stupid is as stupid does, said the great philosopher Forrest Gump. The presidency of Barack Obama is a case study in stupid does.

About Bret Stephens

Mr. Stephens writes the Journal's "Global View" column on foreign affairs, which runs every Tuesday in the U.S. and is also published in the European and Asian editions of the paper. He is a deputy editorial page editor, responsible for the editorial pages of the Asian and European editions of the paper, the columnists on foreign affairs, and the Far Eastern Economic Review. He previously worked for the paper as an op-ed editor in New York and as an editorial writer in Brussels for The Wall Street Journal Europe.

From March 2002 to October 2004 Mr. Stephens was editor-in-chief of The Jerusalem Post, a position he assumed at age 28. At the Post, he was responsible for the paper's news and editorial divisions. He also wrote a weekly column.

In 2004, Mr. Stephens was named a Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum, where he is also a media fellow.

Raised in Mexico City and educated at The University of Chicago and the London School of Economics, Mr. Stephens is married and has three children.
 
i think he is a moron, i think economics 101 was legit too hard for this idiot.

also, hes helping us :) kinda...

hes proving socialism DOESNT FUCKING WORK.
 
"He makes promises he cannot honor. He raises expectations he cannot meet."

NOOOOO, noooo way, politicians never do that what a POS POTUS
 
He is a very expensive object lesson that moving away from capitalism is a terrible idea.

Today's 18 to 30 year olds are going to be paying for Barry's rhetoric for a very long time.
 
Im sure he's intelligent, but he's a horrible leader and his downfall was:

- trying to please everybody.
- realizing that a portion of our elected representatives main priority was to score political points and ensure Obama lost in 2012 as opposed to moving the country forward.

We don't need a kumbaya type president. The greatest leaders throughout our country's history all had a healthy dose of Machiavelli-ness to them.
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

this is good

he is smart enough to get elected, but doesn't have a clue how to lead
 
Im sure he's intelligent, but he's a horrible leader and his downfall was:

- trying to please everybody.
- realizing that a portion of our elected representatives main priority was to score political points and ensure Obama lost in 2012 as opposed to moving the country forward.

We don't need a kumbaya type president. The greatest leaders throughout our country's history all had a healthy dose of Machiavelli-ness to them.
I was thinking about this the other day.
 
I was thinking about this the other day.

Its true when you think about it (re the pseudo-ruthlessness/Machiavelliness of our greatest leaders).

Lincoln? War powers.
Roosevelt? Internment.
Reagan? Pretty self explanatory.
 
His job was to make his masters rich, which he did. So he's SMART.

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If he was smart he'd be doing more to change his bitch status, not going along with the same old bullshit sinking this country into the shitter.
 
Its true when you think about it (re the pseudo-ruthlessness/Machiavelliness of our greatest leaders).

Lincoln? War powers.
Roosevelt? Internment.
Reagan? Pretty self explanatory.

actually go ahead and explain that one rob
 
Im sure he's intelligent, but he's a horrible leader and his downfall was:

- trying to please everybody.
- realizing that a portion of our elected representatives main priority was to score political points and ensure Obama lost in 2012 as opposed to moving the country forward.

We don't need a kumbaya type president. The greatest leaders throughout our country's history all had a healthy dose of Machiavelli-ness to them.

Of course, you know that leadership is about decisiveness....

Also, in politics, it's about creating a message so powerful your political opponents can't disagree with you.

These are time tested principles and if you choose a profession and don't understand how to be successful then you can't be considered "smart." Obama should have understood the FDR presidency, it was a perfect opportunity for New Deal 2.0, but he is so arrogant that he was going to do it the Obama way. FDR presided over the worst economic policies ever implemented but he manipulated the political system to a point where he is the closest to a dictator this country has ever had...

Obama is a second rate politician compared to Clinton let alone the Maestro that was FDR...
 
Of course, you know that leadership is about decisiveness....

Also, in politics, it's about creating a message so powerful your political opponents can't disagree with you.

These are time tested principles and if you choose a profession and don't understand how to be successful then you can't be considered "smart." Obama should have understood the FDR presidency, it was a perfect opportunity for New Deal 2.0, but he is so arrogant that he was going to do it the Obama way. FDR presided over the worst economic policies ever implemented but he manipulated the political system to a point where he is the closest to a dictator this country has ever had...

Obama is a second rate politician compared to Clinton let alone the Maestro that was FDR...


You finally said something that makes sense... However, you forgot to mention all socialists think alike.. It's all idealogy, I would say Wilson is closest thing to a dictator then FDR, all in the name of democracy... I hope your not insinuating we need another New Deal...Yikes!

To answer the original question, no, Obama is not smart. He is a clever politician. Reagan was a public servant, that's what made him soooo great. There is a difference.
 
actually go ahead and explain that one rob

"Since the people will know you by your appearance, appear to be what they want, because they are the key to your power."

Reagan was an extremely smart and extremely cunning person, but he created this aura around him of an "aw shucks" attitude to the point where 40% of the country thought he was a bumbling idiot. Java was half right when he said "it's about creating a message so powerful your political opponents can't disagree with you." It's also about the way in which you deliver that message.
 
"Since the people will know you by your appearance, appear to be what they want, because they are the key to your power."

Reagan was an extremely smart and extremely cunning person, but he created this aura around him of an "aw shucks" attitude to the point where 40% of the country thought he was a bumbling idiot. Java was half right when he said "it's about creating a message so powerful your political opponents can't disagree with you." It's also about the way in which you deliver that message.


What is even more beutiful now, and shows how smart Reagan really was. Is that the 40% of people that thought he was an idiot wish he was in the White House now.
 
What is even more beutiful now, and shows how smart Reagan really was. Is that the 40% of people that thought he was an idiot wish he was in the White House now.

Yeah, which is probably why Reagan closed a vast amount of tax loopholes. When you factor in the closing of the loopholes, Reagan actually "increased" taxes in 1982 and 84 higher than any other president during peacetime.

Homeboy did what needed to be done in that respect. :)
 
Yeah, which is probably why Reagan closed a vast amount of tax loopholes. When you factor in the closing of the loopholes, Reagan actually "increased" taxes in 1982 and 84 higher than any other president during peacetime.

Homeboy did what needed to be done in that respect. :)


Well, he created 20 million jobs, average salary 23k, inflation was 1% in 1985-86 and never went above 4% during his tenure. Which means "real income" increased dramatically. Cut capital gains tax from 70% to 28% freeing up tons of money. Charatable donations were 80 bill a year in 1979, by 1988 they were 160 bill a year. The greenback lost half its value by 81, by 84 or 85 was the top currency in the world again. Oh, unemployment was 10% in 81, by 84 it was 4% it fluctuated from 3.5 to 4.5 during the 80's.

I can keep going. Reagan's presidency was almost flawless.
 
You must not like him that much. Tell me then, who did better than him since Lincoln?
Wait, so in your world, because he was "better" than most others who sat in his chair, he had a near flawless presidency?

Also, lol @ "you must not like him that much" directly after I said I'm a fan of his.

And I hate to break it to you, but all things considered FDR does outrank Reagan. By a pretty healthy margin, actually.

Now I'll sit back and wait for the erroneous cries of "SOCIALISM!!!!!"
 
Wait, so in your world, because he was "better" than most others who sat in his chair, he had a near flawless presidency?

Also, lol @ "you must not like him that much" directly after I said I'm a fan of his.

And I hate to break it to you, but all things considered FDR does outrank Reagan. By a pretty healthy margin, actually.

Now I'll sit back and wait for the erroneous cries of "SOCIALISM!!!!!"

You don't have to break anything to me. I know all about FDR's ranking. That goes to show how naive people are. He is actually one of the worst Pres. ever. No, not a socialist, TOTALTARIAN-MARXIST,that's what he was, he ruined this country.


Well, you said my standards are low after I threw up some sweet stats. Yeah, considering what has been in the Oval Office in comparison, yeah, he most certainly did have a near flawless tenure...
 
Okie dokie.
 
"Since the people will know you by your appearance, appear to be what they want, because they are the key to your power."

Reagan was an extremely smart and extremely cunning person, but he created this aura around him of an "aw shucks" attitude to the point where 40% of the country thought he was a bumbling idiot. Java was half right when he said "it's about creating a message so powerful your political opponents can't disagree with you." It's also about the way in which you deliver that message.

Creating a certain public image is not quite the same as giving yourself war powers during the civil war, or creating internment camps in another war. Reagan wasnt even a war pres.
 
Creating a certain public image is not quite the same as giving yourself war powers during the civil war, or creating internment camps in another war. Reagan wasnt even a war pres.

The Cold War/ arms race got pretty tense and real.
 
Creating a certain public image is not quite the same as giving yourself war powers during the civil war, or creating internment camps in another war. Reagan wasnt even a war pres.

I thought declaring him "ruthless" was a bit of a stretch.
 
FDR gets credit for launching the key programs that have put us on a pre-programmed path to bankruptcy.

That's quite a legacy.
 
The Cold War/ arms race got pretty tense and real.

a cold war is never as real as an actual hot war. lots of posturing and maneuvering by Raygun/Gorbechov, sure but it will never compare to the civil war or WWII.
 
FDR gets credit for launching the key programs that have put us on a pre-programmed path to bankruptcy.

That's quite a legacy.


all the economists i read, and these are market folks over at mises.org...say that the "pre programmed path to bankruptcy" was mainlined when we got taken off the gold standard. And you need to acknowledge that up until approx 2 years ago the republican party were still deficit spending reagan asshats. The concept of no new taxes while still accelerating your borrowing is the conservative monetary ideal. We've been setting china up to be our dollar whore for decades.
 
all the economists i read, and these are market folks over at mises.org...say that the "pre programmed path to bankruptcy" was mainlined when we got taken off the gold standard. And you need to acknowledge that up until approx 2 years ago the republican party were still deficit spending reagan asshats. The concept of no new taxes while still accelerating your borrowing is the conservative monetary ideal. We've been setting china up to be our dollar whore for decades.

The repubs still aren't about cutting spending.....They are cutting their increase in spending...over the next ten years the feds were increasing spending by over 7% a year...the deficit ceiling deal just cut back on the increase in spending.

This whole "Tea Party Movement" is a Trojan Horse for the social conservatives to impose their faith based view of society....60% of Tea Party members self identify as social conservatives.
 
I wish the Tea Party would steer clear of social issues.

The best answer may be to punt these issues to the states and let them fight it out on a more local level. I'm sure the extremes would both have goofy laws, but some of these issues will never be solved otherwise.
 
He is intelligent, very well-educated, and speaks fluently and very effectively... He is distinguished-looking, and carries himself in a very respectable, professional manner, and he can win over a crowd very easily........................................................................................................................................just like Adolf Hitler.

Charles
 
He is incredibly persuasive and articulate to be so completely dead wrong in his policies.
 
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,"

"I mean, that's a storybook, man."
 
He's black of course he is fucking dumb. Damn, didn't us Southern Folk try to tell you Yankee's whasup? Muslim mutha fucker is the Antichrist
 
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