Want to keep my gains!!!!!

[willyb021]

ive posted something similar to this before but got so many different answers from everyone i still couldnt make up my mind.

last cycle i fucked up pct and lost all my gains. i took sustain alpha and clomid. i can no longer take either of these products. sustain made me itch like crazy and clomid made me super depressed and shitty feeling.

soooooo

this cycle im running 500mg test sust ew for 10 wks. and pink thai dbol 25mg ed for first five weeks.

i wanna do things right this time and keep my gains!!!aside from maintaining my diet and training, what kind of pct do i need to run to help me do this.

i already have post cycle and unleashed. what else should i get to keep my gains and bounce back fast,

HCG? NOLVA? or what? please help.its a hard decision. i have ppl telling me to def get nolva.others saying not to get it. i dunno what to do.

like i said i know i posted something like this before . but i still need help. thanks.

 

[santj49]

bump

 

[GabeS]

I'm in the same boat. I am runnin dbol, first month test,eq an deca, and I really wan to maintain most of my gains, what recommendations does Clomid alone help maintain? Should I keep running eq after my cycle is over? Will that help me maintain?

 

[Rocky_dreammuscle]

Regardless what you take you loose water retention once you come off aas cycle. But you keep your muscles. I know water retention does makes up look bigger but its just water.

A good pct would me mixed of nova and clomids for 4 week
Week 1 100mg clomid-40mg nova
Week 2 50 mg -20nova
Week 3 50 mg- 20nova
Week 4 10mg nova

You can use hcg in week 1 of your pct that helps a lot
You will retain your muscles if you have done a proper pct in correct time.

Use aas with less water retention so when you come off you won't loose heaps.
Sus and eq are best for solid gains
Eq makes your muscles mass harder and more solid.

 

[brad1224]

Regardless what you take you loose water retention once you come off aas cycle. But you keep your muscles. I know water retention does makes up look bigger but its just water.

A good pct would me mixed of nova and clomids for 4 week
Week 1 100mg clomid-40mg nova
Week 2 50 mg -20nova
Week 3 50 mg- 20nova
Week 4 10mg nova

You can use hcg in week 1 of your pct that helps a lot
You will retain your muscles if you have done a proper pct in correct time.

Use aas with less water retention so when you come off you won't loose heaps.
Sus and eq are best for solid gains
Eq makes your muscles mass harder and more solid.

agree

nolva/clomid...cant go wrong

and just keep your cals up throughout pct but tapper it down after because you will start to put too much bf on if you keep cals high when off. just train hard and get on some kind of creatine to try and keep some of the water weight

 

[Nelson Montana]

agree

nolva/clomid...cant go wrong

and just keep your cals up throughout pct but tapper it down after because you will start to put too much bf on if you keep cals high when off. just train hard and get on some kind of creatine to try and keep some of the water weight

I know lots of guys who went very wrong with Clomid and Nova.

Look into BRIDGE.Bridge

 

[Flash421]

I'm in the same boat. I am runnin dbol, first month test,eq an deca, and I really wan to maintain most of my gains, what recommendations does Clomid alone help maintain? Should I keep running eq after my cycle is over? Will that help me maintain?

I wouldn't run nolv with deca that's a big NO NO

 

[Flash421]

I'm in the same boat. I am runnin dbol, first month test,eq an deca, and I really wan to maintain most of my gains, what recommendations does Clomid alone help maintain? Should I keep running eq after my cycle is over? Will that help me maintain?

I wouldn't run nolv with deca big NO NO

 

[Rocky_dreammuscle]

I know lots of guys who went very wrong with Clomid and Nova.

Look into BRIDGE.Bridge

How can you say bridge is better then taking nova and Clomids
Do you reckon you keep your gains using bridge??
Mate you need serum for pct that what nova and clomids are.

 

[GabeS]

Thanks guys. Well I am stopping the deca this week and I will continue test for another 3 weeks. I am on letro I have heard about deca an Clomid being a big nono
But since I am stopping the deca 3 weeks before end of cycle will the Clomid/deca issue, still matter?

 

[thecompound]

weeks
1-10 test-e 500mg every wek
3-7 HCG 250iu 3.5 days apart
6-10 HCGenerate 5 caps every day 3 am 2 pm
10-14 Unleashed and post cycle1 cap of each 3 times a day
10-16 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm
10-14 phytoserm-347 1 cap twice a day ( Optional)
AI on hand to kill sides,
Nolva 40/20/20/10

Did that for mine and came back stronger after the PCT with no sex-drive loss, or problems that I could recall

 

[GabeS]

How can you say bridge is better then taking nova and Clomids
Do you reckon you keep your gains using bridge??
Mate you need serum for pct that what nova and clomids are.

He was referring to the fact that you shouldn't take nolva for deca because it can worsen the gyno symptoms. For everything else nova is great

 

[Nick-neck]

Hi guys, good post. I am just coming off deca/test cyp. What is the best pct? I was looking at nova/hcg

 

[thecompound]

Hi guys, good post. I am just coming off deca/test cyp. What is the best pct? I was looking at nova/hcg

You're coming off a cycle and still do not have a PCT lined up? but the post that you are snatching from is the same cycle you are seeking info for, and has been answered. . . . .Completely oblivious and it seems that you are a young underage person who knows nothing that we preach against to not give info to. You are the weakest link Goodbye

 

[jester72]

Hi guys, good post. I am just coming off deca/test cyp. What is the best pct? I was looking at nova/hcg

THIS is the type of thing that gives AAS a bad name! As we know nothing about you (Age, Stats, etc.) don't expect any help.

Also, did you bother to research ANYTHING, or did you just take whatever someone handed you? OR, did you just pick a couple "cool" AAS names and decide to take them?

Did you so much as read ANY of the stickies? You could have easily put together a solid PCT in advance. I am 38, and have NEVER run an injectable cycle, but I do hours and hours of research on what I do run. I don't just put shit into my body at an arbitrary dose and hope for the best.

Things to consider:

1. RESEARCH! Even with basic reading on this site you'd know to NEVER start a cycle without having EVERYTHING (Yes, this includes PCT as well) on hand.
2. If you ran Test/Deca and are coming off, and used no cycle support, you are already shut the fuck down HARD.
3. Nolva and Deca don't tango. Nolva increases/aggravates gyno symptoms when coming off Deca.
4. Use this as a learning experience. Read, read, read, and figure out what you did wrong, and what you need to do. You'll never learn for yourself if everything is just handed to you.

 

[Rocky_dreammuscle]

Hi guys, good post. I am just coming off deca/test cyp. What is the best pct? I was looking at nova/hcg

Mate you are stupid arent ya?
You coming off ya cycle and you havent sort your pct.

If i was you i would Run hcg 1000 twice a week for 2 weeks and clomid 50mg ed for 4 weeks.