Why Take Nolvadex?

[Nelson Montana]

Sorry to but in this thread....but since your talking about Forma Stanzol SouthernLord...is that a strong enough A.I. for a test-e only cycle say 12-15 wks @300mgs per wk?

It depends on what you're using and how sensitive you are to estro sides. But that has nothing to do with PCT.

More info:Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo

 

[party_booye]

I'll admit, I skimmed but from what I saw it doesn't mention it actually helps the recovery of hpta on the needto's website?

 

[Zyglamail]

There is no reason to take nolvadex other than to treat gyno. THE END.

Sure there is, its been tested effective for mania and bipolar disorder as well.

Probably one reason is screws with your mind post cycle

 

[saxon369]

It depends on what you're using and how sensitive you are to estro sides. But that has nothing to do with PCT.

More info:Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo

Yea I know! Sorry Nelson..I pulled the earlier post.

 

[jmat2407]

So nolva doesnt restore Hpta.... Wow are you a scientist?

I think most people that have even the slightest idea what they are doing would know this, that is why we use hcg, and it's not always needed.

After any cycle a SERM should be used, either clomid or nolva.

SERMS help to "kickstart" a sleepy hpyothalmic GnRH response.

GnRH is pretty quick to recover but SERMS help the hypothalamus to "turn the key" on the GnRH impulse generating engine.

SERMS block the affect of estrogen at the hypothalamus and since estrogen is highly inhibitory this blocking affect allows for greater LH production.
This "greater LH production" strongly stimulates the testes to produce testosterone.
If you use only gear that does NOT aromatize to estrogen then you don't have to worry about the inhibitory affect of estrogen post cycle(from the steroid)...but SERMs should still be used to counter the inhibitory affect of the estrogen seen form the T production(from the hcg use).....and also from the estrogen production from the aromatization of the T production form your testes after the hcg is stopped.

*Even if you never used HCG you should still use a SERM after a cycle with non aromatizing gear to counter the inhibitory effect of normal estrogen production(from the aromatization of T from your improving T production)

You have to wait until exogenous androgen levels drop to a similar level of what a normal T production would be, in order for this LH stimulating affect from SERMS to work, since androgens are also highly inhibitory on the hypothalamus.

If your trying to sell a product, well good for you, but to put peoples hard earned gains at risk just to make some $$ makes me feel sick.

"waits patiently for Nelson to come back in and slam ignorant post"

 

[Nelson Montana]

"waits patiently for Nelson to come back in and slam ignorant post"

Nah, not in the mood. For starters people talk about the inhibition of T from estrogen which is wrong. First off, high e does not inhibit T, it's a separate thing. Also, estro is often LOW after a cycle. But so is T and that's what matters.

And if e is the problem an anti aromatase will work.

The post also used terms like "if you had the slightest idea"... which is bordering on breaking forum rules because its antagonizing and making an insulting assumption that a senior member is ill informed. I really don't need to defend my 30 years in the industry with some kid with 19 posts.

 

[RADAR]

Nah, not in the mood. For starters people talk about the inhibition of T from estrogen which is wrong. First off, high e does not inhibit T, it's a separate thing. Also, estro is often LOW after a cycle. But so is T and that's what matters.

And if e is the problem an anti aromatase will work.

The post also used terms like "if you had the slightest idea"... which is bordering on breaking forum rules because its antagonizing and making an insulting assumption that a senior member is ill informed. I really don't need to defend my 30 years in the industry with some kid with 19 posts.

Damn Right! You don't!

 

[Typo]

Nah, not in the mood. For starters people talk about the inhibition of T from estrogen which is wrong. First off, high e does not inhibit T, it's a separate thing. Also, estro is often LOW after a cycle. But so is T and that's what matters.

And if e is the problem an anti aromatase will work.

The post also used terms like "if you had the slightest idea"... which is bordering on breaking forum rules because its antagonizing and making an insulting assumption that a senior member is ill informed. I really don't need to defend my 30 years in the industry with some kid with 19 posts.

I'm sorry about the way that came across, I am just trying to learn. I posted that not because it is my belief, but because I wanted to see your rebuttal.

I'm sure you can understand if someone is skeptical of people saying... "this stuff doesn't work, but.... We have just the thing that does if you give us your money"

And the fact that it's the same "senior members" putting nolva/clomid down and saying how good N2 products are makes me more skeptical.

Again, I apologize for my ignorance.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I'm sorry about the way that came across, I am just trying to learn. I posted that not because it is my belief, but because I wanted to see your rebuttal.

I'm sure you can understand if someone is skeptical of people saying... "this stuff doesn't work, but.... We have just the thing that does if you give us your money"

And the fact that it's the same "senior members" putting nolva/clomid down and saying how good N2 products are makes me more skeptical.

Again, I apologize for my ignorance.

Accepted. It's a controversial issue but one that is being more and more accepted. It would be stupid of me to tell people I had a better option for something that worked well.

The fact is, nolva does not work well. The body needs to recover on its own and the ingredients I've discovered over the years can help.

If you think that's a hard sell now, you should have been around 5 years ago when it was totally new. People thought I was crazy. But I'm still here, and products like UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE have sold in the thousands and those who do it right are finding it's much better than nolva or clomid. Now if you;ve used nolva and clomid and love it, don;t let me stop you. But I can only report what I knw to be the truth.

 

[Gamer2Be08]

Nelson... Clomid for the win...

That is all..