Re: Anti-aromatase... proviron

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: : : From my experience, it seems that Nolvadex, while able to prevent water : : : retention during a heavy steroid cycle, seems to slow down or reduce : : : results in muscle growth. Now, there are other anti-armoatases around. In : : : particular, I am talking about proviron. : : Although proviron has never been : : : an androgen that is known for causing dramatic or indeed any increases in : : : strength and/or muscle mass, it has been used successfully, or so I've : : : heard as a water retention preventer. Since it is an androgen, I would : : : think that it may contribute to muscle growth instead of reduce it like : : : nolvadex, but another line of argument is that as an androgen, it would : : : compete for or down-regulate androgen receptors, thus rendering the other : : : steroids less effective, while not causing much in terms of muscle growth : : : itself. Does anyone have an opinion on this? I have no problem causing : : : muscle growth, and do not mind holding water while doing it, but right : : : now, the bloat is going out of control. : : : Asia : : -Don't believe all what you read or hear form AS user : : Proviron is not really an anti oestrogen : : Proviron is an androgen without any interaction on the : : female hormone level (it doesn't aromatize itself) and : : on the hypophyse. SO because it increases the free testosterone level : : and doesn't raise the oestrogen level THE EFFECT of : : female hormone is reduced. : : That is to say that the ratio female hormone /free male hormone is reduced : : because the free male hormone is increased and not the female hormone level : : The female hormone level is not decreased ! : : (Proviron is not used to cure ovary or breast cancer) : : -Proviron doesn't cause any water retention, that's the (main) reason why : : the mass gains after a cycle(10-12 weeks) of proviron are less important than : : for others AS : : If you want absolutely stack Proviron with another AS, use it : : with a low androgen one : : 10 weeks -12 weeks for a cycle of AS is the worst situation : : The most efficient in terms of lean mass gain vs side effects and receptors downgrading is : : low dose for more than 6 months (like in the medical field) : : or high dose for less than 3 weeks (like used by world class athletes : : to avoid detection, visible side effects) : :You mention that a high dose for less than three weeks is an ideal method of taking steroids. I was wondering if it would be feasable to expect any results if I did the following: Went across the border into Mexico, bought a large quantity of some long acting steroids like Sostenon 250 and Laurabolin and injected the large quantity all at once, then returned to the US. How much can a person inject in one day while remaining reasonably safe? 5cc's, 15cc's, how much? Also, could you tell me what you think one might expirience as far as results from a method like this. Thanks!! : PS Cajun, I already know you think this method sucks, so you don't need to reply. : : : :

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