Posted by The Tower on January 18, 1997 at 12:28:55:
In Reply to: Re: To S3 - Re: Androstene posted by S3 on January 17, 1997 at 17:36:46:
: : S3, Interested in knowing you source for Androstene. With current FDA regulations,
: : it may very well be possible for someone to derive a "supplement" that really works.
: : Currently we have things like DHEA and Melatonin which are both powerful hormones
: : being sold over the counter, so why not ? I personally cannot see the difference between selling DHEA over the counter and Testosterone.
: : If Androstene has someone with Patrick Arnold's reputation is working
: : on it, hell I wouldn't mind giving it a try. I would speculate however that if it did
: : have a bodybuilding benefit and was hormonally based then the FDA will shut it
: : down pretty quick.
: : I would go on to say that if DHEA was ever proven to be of real benefit to
: : bodybuilders (I am not saying it is, the jury is still way out on that) the same thing
: : would occur, so you would expect suppliers of that non-prescription "Drug" to
: : downplay any findings that area.
: The distributor working with Pat on Androstene is OSMO
: in San Francisco. 415-513-5528 talk to Stan- great guy.
: The literature says that 50 mg causes a near 200% rise
: in test levels within 90 minutes, with 100 mg nearly tripling
: test levels. The androstene is converted to test by your liver,
: not your testes, so there is potential for suppression of
: your natural test output. OSMO will tell you that you should
: only take it on lifting days about two hours before workout,
: 'so that the spike in test will fire you up, but so as not
: to risk shutdown and testicular atrophy (also more cost
: effective at $60 per bottle) . In an e-mail which
: Pat was kind enough to take the time to respond to, he
: informed me that you can take it throughout the day
: to maintain consistently elevated test levels, but that
: you could experience similar side effects to taking
: test in that case. I'm going to take throughout the day
: for a couple of weeks, but if I see any adverse side effects
: have some Ipriflavone standing by to counter the aromatization,
: which Pat tells me should even further spike my test levels
: by fooling the axis into jumpstarting the testes, which in turn
: will supplement the test my liver's turning the Androstene
: into.
: As I said in a previous post, I have not used any AS,
: in over ten years, so the results should be interesting.
: I'll keep everyone appraised of my progress.
: Day 1
: 30 years old
: 6'2"
: 245 lbs.
: 15-16% bodyfat (yuch!)
: Bench 365lbs.
: Squat 405 lbs
: Military 205 lbs
: Wish me luck!
: S3
Sounds like Bullshit to me! I wonder if it is as good
as Retibol, or HGH-1 or that IGF-1A or maybe testatropinal.
There are so many BULLSHIT products out there, it's
un-fuck'n-believable! You are probably working for the
company, and using this as a cheap way to indorse it!