Steroid for fat loss

[Tatyana]

There seems to be some confusion about steroids.

There are no steroids for fat loss.


When women use steroids while dieting (typically this is a woman competing in figure, fitness or bodybuilding), they use steroids to hold onto the muscle they have while in a calorie deficit.

The war on steroids in the US has had more people become aware of steroids, and for the most part, this has been disastrous. There is even more mis-information than before.

As well, a lot of the men/gym rats that take steroids are equally as clueless, there are a few that give good advice, and we have several of them who are mentors and mods on this site.

Don't let your boyfriend or husband do the research and sort out your cycle for you. If you choose to use, make sure you have all the information, the possible sides and the benefits.

There is a wealth of information on this site. I would recommend you start with the diet and training threads, and then move onto girlies and gear.

This isn't meant to be a scare tactic, but I have seen far too many women change their appearances (and voices) to such an extent that the majority of society will think they are a freak.

And for what? Most of them competed a year and did fairly well. They are going to have to live with these permanent sides the rest of their lives or spend a phenomenal amount of money on surgery.


That is my personal experience with steroids. For the most part, I have seen them ruin more women than benefit from them.



I thought I would also include a few other quotes from some women who have a lot of experience with steroids:

If your diet & training program aren't getting you the results you want, then the drugs will only make it worse.




Ex: Girl bitches about can't lose weight (mostly because isn't consistent w/ diet). Boyfriend says "Just use some winstrol - it will lean you out & tone you up". Start taking winstrol. Since diet sucks, and not lean already, just end up "thicker", more acne, potential hair falling out, starts wondering why her period stopped, etc. The point is people looking for quicky fixes vs taking the time to establish the diet & training.

I am totally with you on this! Too many people seem to think that steroids are some sort of miracle fix for fat loss and muscle growth. It is this form of thinking that leads the media to accuse athletes using drugs of being 'cheats'. An athlete using drugs must train harder and eat smarter or they are wasting their time and money on the drugs.

I have a suspicion that a lot of male trainers are on some sort of comission for promoting the use of Var and Winnie (lol!!!)

its weird..ever since i got on forums and have been reading the discussions on steroids, i cant believe how often i read what you wrote and what Tat had mentioned. how women think steroids are some sort of miracle fix for fat loss, 'toning' up and to get more definition. i never assumed that and did not think people did...but i was wrong! it is sad that there are many women who do use steroids for that reason.

goodness...i have had skinny women, just normal housewives, who dont compete or anything, dont lift hardcore...who come up to me asking about them. i just stare in disbelief as they ask me about them.

men are just as bad when it comes to using and not even training hard and smart. so many guys I know..they use but yet their diet sux, they go out drinking every weekend and they dont even train that well. so stupid. i dont get it.



i know many people on them who dont look it at all. i think to myself, 'wtf. why waste your money and why even bother.' they assume they will grow into ronnie coleman just by using. i guess they have money to blow.

The whole "hitting a plateau" and all that for anyone w/ less than say, 5 yrs of lifting experience, is a cop out and just further illustrates the lack of attention to the basics - diet & training, which, as most of you know, I rant about all the time.

But I think the media goes a long way to skewing the correct information about drugs. What comes to mind is the flood of ultra skinny Hollywood starlets who, the magazines say, are using the miracle drug "Clenbuterol".

The funny thing is, every "gymrat" person I've seen use that stuff doesn't end up looking like a skeletal crack ho. And then if they are actually using clen, who the hell is telling them about it? If they are getting drug recommendations from a trainer, you'd think the trainer would be telling them about a whole arsenal of stuff that would make them look leaner & better instead of cadaverous. So that makes me think they're getting their information from people who are just as ignorant as the rest of the world. Or like these anorexia sites where they all go on a forum and talk about the best way to purge or use of DNP to get even skinnier.

But at any rate, the whispers start and there's a whole slice of society who perpetuate the use of drugs and completely miss the whole part about diet & training. (Actually could say the same about the people who get plastic surgery in lieu of diet & training...)



RE: Coaches -- I'd throw a big fat caveat on that too actually. The fitness industry is not regulated and any idiot, or any truly knowledgeable & committed person can get a training cert.

Many of the trainers I've worked with don't actually have the standard ACE certs, etc but instead promote themselves on their own background in lifting/BB and often, specifically in the area of preparation for competition. This can mean a number of things - they have good, practical background and have supplemented it with knowledge of knesiology, etc. and some who just sell a good story.

Nutrition is the interesting area when it comes to "certification" because it is much more regulated than the training certs are and many trainers just simply won't provide diets because of the liability of not being a licensed dietician.

But all that aside, my point was to say that people will look to their coaches for guidance on the chemical side of things and, I'm gonna generalize, but especially male coaches will probably be more aggressive w/ the drug recommendations, hopefully at least based on past observational experience w/ working with women.

But I doubt they would be privy to the nuances of drug use and women's bodies to the point where they would be more conservative. Therefore, even w/ a coach's help, IMO it still falls to the user herself, to make sure SHE understands what she's getting into andto be prepared to accept or not accept both the results and the sides. Many go into competition w/ an attitude of "I'll do whatever it takes!" and if the coach says, "Here use some anadrol of you want to get big"... I'd start by heading for the internet and researching the hell out of anadrol, and absolutely, come back to the coach and say

"Explain to me why Anadrol is the appropriate chemical for the goals I'm looking for? What results & sides should I expect?" and then, go research some more and decide if that's what you're willing to take on. Even w/ a coach or someone you trust, it is still YOU who is putting the compound in your body and YOU who has to deal w/ the results and the sides.


And the sides don't just go away. Depending on the compound, it may take a while for it to clear your system. This means you should also get a basic understanding of how steroids work. YOu can't pick & choose your results and sides, and its a crapshoot as to what results and sides you'll get. And this all on the assumption that your diet & training already are productive & consistent.



Its not rocket science, but it shouldn't be taken lightly either. It is absolutely all about personal responsibility & education ON TOP OF functional and operational understanding and execution of diet & training. Coaches are a great learning tool & guide, but you still need to use common sense when taking someone else's advice on what you are going to put into your body.

 

[nangiggles]

VERY good post, kudos

 

[slat1]

Another thing that is weird is when people say "when do I feel them"... you don't... ever. You may notice results from steroids but there is not one under the sun that you "feel".

"The whole "hitting a plateau" and all that for anyone w/ less than say, 5 yrs of lifting experience, is a cop out and just further illustrates the lack of attention to the basics - diet & training"

Great quote and soooooooooooooooo true. What you eat, when you eat it, how much you eat and why you are eating it is all of your results. If you hit a plateau get back to the books about food and you will find a way through it. I find there is always more information out there so I am not afraid to ask other for their ideas/opinions. Sooner or later I hear something that helps me!

 

[superqt4u2nv]

There are no steroids for fat loss.

Amen! I had a good friends GF as me for help I gave her a diet and training to follow. She also asked me if there was an magical supplements that I knew of yes of course I do it is call HARD WORK!

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Totally agree...........




Brad.