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If my memory serves me right, Masteron barely converts to DHT...... But that doesn't mean it won't cause other Virallizing effects.
 
The Terminator said:
Primo wont convert to DHT, as it ALREADY is a DHT derivative and therfore does not need to covert :(
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Exactly trust me primo is pure DHT. Come on men must be somethhing. EQ?
 
The Terminator said:
The less androgenicity a drug has then less chance of conversion, is my guess...
Anavar is probably the "safest" bet on this one...
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great for strength, but its a weak steroid for muscle building.
 
Catch Wrestler said:
Any steroid that is a dht derivitive,does not convert to dht.As the Termie said,it doesn't need to convert 'cos it already is dht. Duh.
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I know that I am looking for something that is the least DHT with the least possiblity of sides. You can't bulk on var I have tried. I freakin hate primo but mostly what it did to my hair. I was thinking NPP but I dunno my bulking is another 3 months off so I got a lot of time just trying to think ahead. I could bulk natty but pretty sure that would just turn me back into a fatty. LOL
 
I will never understand why women bulk...
Look at most of the pro men bber's. They don't bulk anymore for the most part. What you see is water loss at the competitions.
I will stick with upping my clean food intake to put more size on. You grow lbm just as fast!
 
slat1 said:
I will never understand why women bulk...
Look at most of the pro men bber's. They don't bulk anymore for the most part. What you see is water loss at the competitions.
I will stick with upping my clean food intake to put more size on. You grow lbm just as fast!
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I bulked this past winter woman put on 1lb of fat for every 1lb of muscle we are not built the same as men lean gains are not as easy for us.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
I bulked this past winter woman put on 1lb of fat for every 1lb of muscle we are not built the same as men lean gains are not as easy for us.
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You could try a low dose of deca or npp or EQ. I've used deca and EQ on figure competitors before. They liked it. There were no sides, except they got horney as fuck. You can tell your boyfriend to thank me... ;)
 
Makavelli said:
You could try a low dose of deca or npp or EQ. I've used deca and EQ on figure competitors before. They liked it. There were no sides, except they got horney as fuck. You can tell your boyfriend to thank me... ;)
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How low of a dose for NPP and EQ?

I had to bail out on primo the sides were suppose to be very minimal but my hair started falling out fast as all hell :( Thank GOD I had very thick hair to begin with. My hair dress said it is all coming back now but I am super gun shy about trying anything else now.

I have been getting ready for my comp with only 10mg of var and my progress has really kicked as so at least I know var is always a fail safe for me and cutting.
 
Primo is actually a DHB derivative, not DHT. That's why the sides are minimal. I would go with primo.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
How low of a dose for NPP and EQ?

I had to bail out on primo the sides were suppose to be very minimal but my hair started falling out fast as all hell :( Thank GOD I had very thick hair to begin with. My hair dress said it is all coming back now but I am super gun shy about trying anything else now.

I have been getting ready for my comp with only 10mg of var and my progress has really kicked as so at least I know var is always a fail safe for me and cutting.
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I would go for around 75-100 mgs max a week.
 
string_bean00 said:
I would think NPP is better off EOD.



EQ is good twice a week, and you can get by with once a week no problem.
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EQ's esther is longer acting right? I know some chicks that have run it minimal sides, but I prefer something that would be in and out of my system fast incase I bail out. I got burned with primo's long acting by the time i bailed on it the sides had set in.
 
There are some U.G. sources that are going to be coming out with Boldenone Acetate capsules pretty soon. You could possibly get one to custom formulate capsules in the dosage you like. If you start getting sides, you can bail, and it's out of your system very quickly.
 
the fast acting deca might be a thought since if sides to appear its outa your system faster, keep some aldactone on hand (anti-androgen), just be careful w/ the deca, we have enough guys in this fourm.... stay a lady PLEASE!!!! :worried:
 
superqt4u2nv said:
I bulked this past winter woman put on 1lb of fat for every 1lb of muscle we are not built the same as men lean gains are not as easy for us.
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That is blanket statement. Every female is different, some better, some worse. That is another reason why you shouldn't bulk. If you're more susceptible to putting on bodyfat no matter what why would you be trying to put a sizeable amount of weight on. I would rather see you go slow and steady and put on quality. Makes a lot more sense.
 
silverbackn said:
That is blanket statement. Every female is different, some better, some worse. That is another reason why you shouldn't bulk. If you're more susceptible to putting on bodyfat no matter what why would you be trying to put a sizeable amount of weight on. I would rather see you go slow and steady and put on quality. Makes a lot more sense.
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Good point I am not looking to put on a lot just want to bring up my back and shoulders so they are more in line with my legs. I vowed I woiud never do an injectabe after primo LOL maybe I should keep that promise to myself very slippery slop this game can be :worried:
 
superqt4u2nv said:
I know that I am looking for something that is the least DHT with the least possiblity of sides. You can't bulk on var I have tried. I freakin hate primo but mostly what it did to my hair. I was thinking NPP but I dunno my bulking is another 3 months off so I got a lot of time just trying to think ahead. I could bulk natty but pretty sure that would just turn me back into a fatty. LOL
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nandrolones - deca or npp. they convert to dhn which is very benign hair-wise.

EQ has very low conversion too. I'm hair sensitive and eq,npp,var were fine hair-wise.

you might also start 3 - 4 grams of panthotenic acid (vitamin b-5) when on anything that converts to dht. not only is it good for preventing the oily/gresy skin, but it protects the hair as well. mavafanculo tested and approved. :)
 
superqt4u2nv said:
How low of a dose for NPP and EQ?

I had to bail out on primo the sides were suppose to be very minimal but my hair started falling out fast as all hell :( Thank GOD I had very thick hair to begin with. My hair dress said it is all coming back now but I am super gun shy about trying anything else now.

I have been getting ready for my comp with only 10mg of var and my progress has really kicked as so at least I know var is always a fail safe for me and cutting.
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Get yourself some aldactone, it is an anti-androgen so it can help minimize the sides if they show up and you need to bail out. I'm not sure if it would help with the hair, anyone else know about this?
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Good point I am not looking to put on a lot just want to bring up my back and shoulders so they are more in line with my legs. I vowed I woiud never do an injectabe after primo LOL maybe I should keep that promise to myself very slippery slop this game can be :worried:
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It can definitely be tricky for a female, i think if you are going to do it you should follow mak's advice. I told myself after my last show I would never compete again or do drugs, I am already contemplating it again :evil: .
 
Yes, EQ's half life is very long and you only need to inject once per week. The NPP is better being injected eod.
 
Makavelli said:
Yes, EQ's half life is very long and you only need to inject once per week. The NPP is better being injected eod.
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Thanks ... on topic sorta off topic since I know you work with a lot of females I think you would kinda have an idea about this. So I came off my var for two days as I was traveling to the states and paranoid as hell to cross the boarder with gear anywho. Since my bf has dropped so much my boobs have gotten small I was D natty and have been down to a B for a little while anyways my one sports bra is a C I had it on today and I swear I was filling it out more. I am back on again but you think your boobs come back that fast after coming of like 48 hours total I was off for.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Thanks ... on topic sorta off topic since I know you work with a lot of females I think you would kinda have an idea about this. So I came off my var for two days as I was traveling to the states and paranoid as hell to cross the boarder with gear anywho. Since my bf has dropped so much my boobs have gotten small I was D natty and have been down to a B for a little while anyways my one sports bra is a C I had it on today and I swear I was filling it out more. I am back on again but you think your boobs come back that fast after coming of like 48 hours total I was off for.
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It's not being off the anavar. It's most likely water retention from your period or diet. How did you eat? Anavar does not burn fat directly. So even if you come off it for several weeks you won't gain any fat back unless you start eating more cals. Make sense? It's either that or you just shrunk your bra on accident by washing it in hot water and then accidently drying it for an hour... ;)
 
Makavelli said:
It's not being off the anavar. It's most likely water retention from your period or diet. How did you eat? Anavar does not burn fat directly. So even if you come off it for several weeks you won't gain any fat back unless you start eating more cals. Make sense? It's either that or you just shrunk your bra on accident by washing it in hot water and then accidently drying it for an hour... ;)
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:lmao: I kept my diet exactly the same when I was gone but I think I may have had a little more sodium so I guess it could be water but in my boobs? Shit I wish I knew how to make me hold water in my boobs all the time :D I didn't shrink the bra at the gym I asked my friend a guy he said they did look bigger then last week. LOL I had weighted myself that morning and was down a pound from the week before. My bf is so low now I don't really get my period any more this month I had spotting for like a day. Maybe I should ask this Q on the womans board. LOL
 
I don't ever want to see the word "spotting" on this board again LOL. I often times dry my underwear for about an hour and a half to make my junk look bigger.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
:lmao: I kept my diet exactly the same when I was gone but I think I may have had a little more sodium so I guess it could be water but in my boobs? Shit I wish I knew how to make me hold water in my boobs all the time :D I didn't shrink the bra at the gym I asked my friend a guy he said they did look bigger then last week. LOL I had weighted myself that morning and was down a pound from the week before. My bf is so low now I don't really get my period any more this month I had spotting for like a day. Maybe I should ask this Q on the womans board. LOL
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Well, where you hold fat you will hold water. Your tits are all fat, so...it's most likely the extra sodium.
 
Makavelli said:
Anavar does not burn fat directly. So even if you come off it for several weeks you won't gain any fat back unless you start eating more cals. . ;)
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there were a few good studies that showed var preferentially burns visceral and abdominal fat compared to non-AAS controls, and compared to controls using various other types of AAS.

The studies were on men, so it didnt address boob fat, but I imagine it would be the same and even exagerated since thats where chicks lose fat first even natty apparantly.

but I agree, being off for a few days isnt going to do anything to replenish the magical wonder orbs, the badges of mammalhood, the nipple-tipped rib balloons, etc etc etc
 
indy69camaro said:
I know many women that use Primo, usually about 100mg per week side free.
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Well so do I but I was not one of them I could care less about other woman not having sides more interested in how it affects me. Just like some dudes can do tren no problems and another guy can't. Sides are purely indiviual kinda trial and error. Thing is with woman the errors are a lot more serious then with guys.
 
Mavafanculo said:
there were a few good studies that showed var preferentially burns visceral and abdominal fat compared to non-AAS controls, and compared to controls using various other types of AAS.

The studies were on men, so it didnt address boob fat, but I imagine it would be the same and even exagerated since thats where chicks lose fat first even natty apparantly.

but I agree, being off for a few days isnt going to do anything to replenish the magical wonder orbs, the badges of mammalhood, the nipple-tipped rib balloons, etc etc etc
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I understand that, however being off a few days as you stated, isn't going to cause the effects she's looking at.
 
How about using a fast acting EQ, like Boldenone PhenylPropionate?

It would be somewhat mild on the androgenic sides, and the fast acting ester would allow you to dump it quickly if the sides become more than you are willing to deal with...

The only problem might be finding a good source that actually carries it (as I dont hink its very common...)
 
The Terminator said:
How about using a fast acting EQ, like Boldenone PhenylPropionate?

It would be somewhat mild on the androgenic sides, and the fast acting ester would allow you to dump it quickly if the sides become more than you are willing to deal with...

The only problem might be finding a good source that actually carries it (as I dont hink its very common...)
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what UL's make it?

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The Terminator said:
How about using a fast acting EQ, like Boldenone PhenylPropionate?

It would be somewhat mild on the androgenic sides, and the fast acting ester would allow you to dump it quickly if the sides become more than you are willing to deal with...

The only problem might be finding a good source that actually carries it (as I dont hink its very common...)
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I agree with you Termie. However that shit is hard to find. I'd like to use it also, but haven't found it yet.
 
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