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I want to create a large list of all the necessary supps that need to be taken during AAS cycles to keep the body and all of it's organs healthy & working correctly...obvious ones are

Tyler's Liver Detox
Niacin or something that helps lower cholesterol
Multivitamin
Lycopene?for prostate

Please ad on to the list, I want to make sure I'm taking everything I can to reduce the chance of sides
 
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detroitbodybuildertigers said:
I want to create a large list of all the necessary supps that need to be taken during AAS cycles to keep the body and all of it's organs healthy & working correctly...obvious ones are

Tyler's Liver Detox
Niacin or something that helps lower cholesterol


i would just eat cleaner to keep Cholesterol levels low....niacin is so liver toxic its not worth it
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
But cholest. will still increase while ON even if you eat as clean as anyone right?


im not really qualified to answer that BUT to minimize your chances of high cholesterol eating extra clean while on cycle, is optimal

regarless even with niacin your levels are gonna go up

nolva also lowers cholesterol...if u use it for gyno on cycle its a suprising addition
 
Milk Thislte is said to help with liver detoxing, so I add in that. I also use multi-vitamin, saw palmetto to avoid Prostate hypertrophy, Echinacea because steroids are immuno-suppresant, Flax or fish oil (I use flax because you can get fish burps), and vitamin C.
 
i think liver cleanse from gnc blows away tylers and milk thistle, it cleans that shit out, my boy swears by it, i swear this kid has been on winny depot for a year straight, his liver values always fine, i know he is dumb, truth is i think he is lying and may be like year and a half straight on winny, he won't stop. of course he benches 500 and weighs 205 with 4-5%bf.
 
bruce410 said:
i think liver cleanse from gnc blows away tylers and milk thistle, it cleans that shit out, my boy swears by it, i swear this kid has been on winny depot for a year straight, his liver values always fine, i know he is dumb, truth is i think he is lying and may be like year and a half straight on winny, he won't stop. of course he benches 500 and weighs 205 with 4-5%bf.

your "boy" is an idiot....
 
Tyler's Liver Detox
Niacin or something that helps lower cholesterol
Multivitamin
Lycopene for prostate
multi mineral
Flax oil
Cranberry tabs
vit C helps with catabolism 5000mg
saw palmeto
red yeast
l glutamin
green tea
calcium/magnez
Milk thistle
CLA
policosonol for cholesterol
Echinacea because steroids are immuno-suppresant
Flax or fish oil
Garlic Tabs
Metamucil
dandolion root for bloat
 
Ulter said:


this is not always the case. The type of drugs and dosage have alot to do with wether or not your cholesterol increases. I have been on for over a year and half non-stop and my cholesterol level varies between 120-130.
 
mr.cuts said:
this is not always the case. The type of drugs and dosage have alot to do with wether or not your cholesterol increases. I have been on for over a year and half non-stop and my cholesterol level varies between 120-130.

you take anything for cholest. while ON?
 
mr.cuts said:
this is not always the case. The type of drugs and dosage have alot to do with wether or not your cholesterol increases. I have been on for over a year and half non-stop and my cholesterol level varies between 120-130.
There are people who can be on for a year and a half and experience no muscle growth. They are non responders to steroids. That doesn't mean that in general people don't grow LBM with steroids. By in large if you're using steroids it will effect your lipid profile. I am happy for you but your results are not typical.
 
bruce410 said:
i think liver cleanse from gnc blows away tylers and milk thistle, it cleans that shit out, my boy swears by it, i swear this kid has been on winny depot for a year straight, his liver values always fine, i know he is dumb, truth is i think he is lying and may be like year and a half straight on winny, he won't stop. of course he benches 500 and weighs 205 with 4-5%bf.

Just the fact that liver cleanse is sold at GNC and you have to buy Tyler Liver Detox from a doctor speaks volumes about the differences in the effectiveness of the two products. Liver cleanse is an herbal "liver cleaner" without any of the important ingredients for people taking 17aa meds. Like Glucarate for instance.
 
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While on gear the only thing you can do for your cholesterol is good fats and some of the supps that you have on your list. Kinda sucks but just try as hard as you can to stay healthy.
 
What about glucosamine/chondroitin, probiotics, and ginko biloba (I use others mentioned already too).
 
Mine would be (with test and oral):

- Tyler Liver Detox

- Glucorell-R

- Saw palmetto

- multi-vitamins

- garlic extract

- flax seed oil
 
PolfaJelfa said:
Glucorell-R...what is that...is that ALPHA lipoic acid from the AF store...the more potent version? Sorry guys....its still early..

Glucorell R is the first and largest supplier of R+ Lipoic Acid in the United States. Glucorell R uses R Lipoic Acid (RLA) complexed with Biotin. RLA is the pure, potent and natural version of the anti-oxident Alpha Lipoic Acid. Glucorell R helps shuttle carbohydrates into your muscle cells instead of your fat cells by increasing insulin sensitivity and the uptake of glucose. This improvement in carb utilization in people with insulin resistance means that carbs and sugars are less likely to be stored as fat and will be stored more efficiently as muscle gylcogen. RLA may inhibit the formation and differentiation of new fat cells. RLA has been shown to inhibit the transcription factor NF kappa B which has been shown to activate cancer transcription. This means that RLA is an essential tool in preventing cancer. RLA has been shown to enhance liver function, protect the liver and to help regenerate damaged liver cells. Recent research shows that biotin is an essential co-factor to RLA and works synergistically with respect to carb disposal and uptake.* Never use a lipoic acid without biotin. Lipoic acid affects your supply of essential B vitamin Biotin. Keep cool or refrigerated.
 
I knew the effects of ALA...just was wondered if Glocorel-R was R-ala... Which you just confirmed...

Yep its definatelly good stuff, especially for the liver and anti carcinogenic.
 
I only inject test cyp for HRT, no orals. Here is what I take total spread out over my 6-8 meals. (daily):
2 - 3 Multivitamin/minerals
4-5 tabs of 500 mg chewable vitamin C
3 garlic tabs 1000 mg each (deodorized)
3 Fish (enteric coated) -> no burps or Flax caps 1000 mg each
3 Saw Palmetto caps 320 mg each
3 Glucosamine/Chondroitan/MSM 600/800/1000 mg each
3 Co-Q 10 (50 mg each)
Liver Detox formula by MRM (don't recall exact name, but has NAC, glucarate, etc. in it.
Occasionally 40 mg of policosinal day, also.
 
Tyler's Liver Detox
Multivitamin
Lycopene for prostate
Flax oil
Cranberry tabs
vit C helps with catabolism 5000mg
saw palmeto
red yeast
l glutamin
green tea
calcium/magnez
Milk thistle
CLA
policosonol for cholesterol
Echinacea because steroids are immuno-suppresant
Flax or fish oil
Garlic Tabs
Metamucil
dandolion root for bloat
Fish (enteric coated) -> no burps or Flax caps 1000 mg each
Glucosamine/Chondroitan/MSM 600/800/1000 mg each
Co-Q 10 (50 mg each)
 
Alpine` said:
your "boy" is an idiot....
yeah he is my friend, not me, so the quotes are not necessary, he may be dumb about juice, but he is going to georgetown law school after getting a 168 on the lsat so he is far from an idiot. thanks though really necessary
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
Tyler's Liver Detox--2-4 capsules
Niacin or something that helps lower cholesterol-500mg
Multivitamin-2 pills-I get the ones from Costco
Lycopene for prostate--its in the Multivitamin
multi mineral--??
Flax oil- 1000mg
Cranberry tabs--???
vit C helps with catabolism- 5000mg
saw palmeto--??
red yeast--??
l glutamin--5-10g
green tea--??
calcium/magnez--in the multivitamin
Milk thistle--500mg-1g
CLA--2g
policosonol for cholesterol--40-60mg
Echinacea because steroids are immuno-suppresant--??
Flax or fish oil--??
Garlic Tabs--??
Metamucil--??
dandolion root for bloat--??

I put ?? by the ones I'm not sure of
 
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Good lord! If I had to take half of that I could never afford to be on! I wish I could use all that stuff. I use something for the liver and a multi, it's all I can really afford. I'm sad now.
 
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