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T3 - Ramp up and back down - or Run 12.5mg ED strait

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I have been considering T3 to be used in conjunction with Clen and Keto.

I know alot of people ramp t3 up and back down, peaking at 75mcg or So per day. I remember reading that your body makes about 20-30mcg a day, and using more than that would shut down your natural production. I also remember reading that the use if 12.5mcg or so per day would enhance your natural level, but would not shut down your natural production.

Is this true? Is this the best way to run it SAFELY?

Are T3 dosage recommendations the same for Women?

I was thinking about running 6 weeks of Clen at 120mcg per day, 2mgs Ketotifen per day, and 12.5mcg of T3 per day for 6 weeks strait.
 
I prefer to ramp up and down normally, because of possible rebound effects. Im busy doing a cycle now where im using 2 x 12.5mcg per day, as im bulking but wanting to keep the fat off. Its an experiment but so far its going excellent. Up in weight by about 12lb, but waist is down by a few inches. Im also using t-rex aswell.
Also ive never used ketotifen before, but from what i understand you should be to reduce ya clen, because of the receptor boosting effects.

Mick
 
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shortstack said:
im running t3 @75 and clen/keto right now ed.


What Clen/keto dosage are your running, and how long is your "cycle"?

This will be my first run with ketotifen and t3, I have only used clen before alone.

Anyone else have experience at just 12.5 a day?
 
If you are looking to reduce BF then ramp up to maximum dosage and then taper down slowley

If you are using for the increased protein synthesis only then static low dosage is fine IMHO

Wrongun!
 
first time using t-3 huh?

this should cover it!


Cytomel is not an anabolic/androgenic steroid but a thyroid hormone. As a substance it contains
synthetically manufactured liothyronine sodium which resembles the natural thyroid hormone
Tricodide-thyronine (L-T3). The thyroid of a healthy person usually produces two hormones, the
better known L-thyroxine (L-T4) and the aforementioned L-trilodine~thyronine (L-T3). Since Cytomel
is the synthetic equivalent of the latter hormone, it causes the same processes in the body as if the
thyroid were to produce more of the hormone. It is interesting to note that L-T3 is clearly the
stronger and more effective of these two hormones. This makes Cytomel more effective than the
commercially available L-T4 compounds such as L-thyroxine or Synthroid. The manufacturer of the
German L-T3 compound, Hoechst AG, ascribes the following characteristics to its Thybon drug,
making it clear that L-T3 is superior to L-T4: "The synthetically manufactured thyroid hormone,
L-trilodine-thyronine (L-T3), included in Thybon, in experimental and clinical testing has proven to be
4-5 times more biologically active and to take effect more quickly than L-thyroxine (L-T4)." In school
medicine Cytomel is used to treat thyroid insufficiency (hypothyroidism). Among other secondary
symptoms are obesity, metabolic disorders, and fatigue. Bodybuilders take advantage of these
characteristics and stimulate their metabolism by taking Cytomel, which causes a faster
conversion of carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. Bodybuilders, of course, are especially interested
in an increased lipolysis, which means increased fat burning. Competing bodybuilders, in particular,
use Cytomel during the weeks before a championship since it helps to maintain an extremely low
fat content, without necessitating a hunger diet. Athletes who use low dosages of Cytomel report
that by the simultaneous intake of steroids, the steroids become more effective, most likely as the
result of the faster conversion of protein.

Until recently, Cytomel was used by bodybuilders and female bodybuilders, in particular-on a daily
basis over several months to remain "hard" and in good shape all year round. Believe us when we
tell you that to a great extent several bodybuilders who are pictured in "muscle magazines" and
display a hard and defined look in photos, eat fast food and iron this out by taking Cytomel. The over
stimulated thyroid burns calories like a blast furnace. Nowadays, instead of Cytomel, athletes use
Clenbuterol, which is becoming more and more popular. Those who combine these two compounds
will burn an enormous amount of fat. The next time you read that a certain pro bodybuilder
approaching a championship competition is still eating 4000 calories a day, you will know why.
Cytomel is also popular among female bodybuilders. Since women generally have slower
metabolisms than men, it is extremely difficult for them to obtain the right form for a competition
given today's standards. A drastic reduction of food and calories below the 1000 calorie/day mark
can often be avoided by taking Cytomel. Women, no doubt, are more prone to side effects than men
but usually get along well with 50 mcg/day. A short-term intake of Cytomel in a reasonable dosage
is certainly "healthier" than an extreme hunger diet.

As for the dosage, one should be very careful since Cytomel is a very strong and highly effective
thyroid hormone. It is extremely important that one begins with a low dosage, increasing it slowly
and evenly over the course of several days. Most athletes begin by taking one 25 mcg tablet per day
and increasing this dosage every three to four days by one additional tablet. A dose higher than 100
mcg/ day is not necessary and not advisable. It is not recommended that the daily dose be taken all
at once but broken down into three smaller individual doses so that they become more effective. It
is also important that Cytomel not be taken for more than six weeks. At least two months of
abstinence from the drug needs to follow. Those who take high dosages of Cytomel over a long
period of time are at risk of developing a chronic thyroid insufficiency. As a consequence, the
athlete might be forced to take thyroid medication for the rest of his life. It is also important that
the dosage is reduced slowly and evenly by taking fewer tablets and not be ended abruptly. Those
who plan to take Cytomel should first consult a physician in order to be sure that no thyroid hyper
function exists.

Possible side effects such as medication are described in the package insert by the German
pharmaceutical group Hoechst AG for their compound Thybon: "Exceeding the individual limits of
compatibility for liothyronine or taking an overdose, especially, if the dose is increased too quickly
at the beginning of the treatment, can cause the following clinical symptoms for a thyroid
hyperfunction): heart palpitation, trembling, irregular heartbeat, heart oppression, agitation,
shortness of breath, excretion of sugar through the urine, excessive perspiration, diarrhea, weight
loss, psychic disorders, etc., as well as symptoms of hypersensitivity." Our experience is that most
symptoms consist of trembling of hands, nausea, headaches, high perspiration, and increased
heartbeat. These negative side effects can often be eliminated by temporarily reducing the daily
dosage. Caution, however is advised when taking Cytomel since, especially in the beginning, the
effect can be quick and sometimes drastic. Athletes do not use the injectable version of L-T3, this
is normally used as "emergency therapy for thyrotoxic coma." Those who use Cytomel over several
weeks will experience a decrease in muscle mass. This can be avoided or delayed by
simultaneously taking steroids. For the most part, since Cytomel also metabolizes protein, the
athlete must eat a diet rich in protein.


RADAR
 
Thats a very good article for those using T3 for the first time, Im curious as to when it was written, do you know Radar, it looks pretty old.
 
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Good read Radar, thanks!

I am gonna run it with Clen and Ketotifen for 6 weeks. I will start the T3 at 12.5 the first day and ramp up 12.5mcg every day until I reach 50mcg. I will ramp back down in week 6 from 50mcg to 0 in 12.5mcg per day increments.
 
i did t3 last summer before mx and i must admit i was impressed i did it for 6wks wk 1 25mcg ed at breakfast
wk 2-5 50mcg ed at breakfast
wk 6 25mcg ed at breakfast

check out my pic right when i was done w/wk 6, granted i am not shredded like many here but i was very pleased with the results. i used t3,prop,winny
 
Themachine01 said:
Thats a very good article for those using T3 for the first time, Im curious as to when it was written, do you know Radar, it looks pretty old.

Its one of the first articles i studied when i came to elite. so yeah...its a few yrs old.

RADAR
 
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