Gambino said:
lol
give it a rest, you moral crusader you
I'd be willing to bet the sympathy you proclaim magically appears only when in a negative Bush situation...thousands more would be dead if it wasn't for Bush's decisions.
yeah. of old age.
redguru said:
And how many of those babies in bits and pieces are caused by the indiscriminate IED's of the jihadists you so wish to equate with us?
irrelevent. there were no IEDs in iraq before the US got there. IEDs are there because of the US. if someone is killed by an IED, then blame rests primarily with the US, particularly because the war in iraq is one that the us CHOSE to go to, and was in no way compelled.
and further, IEDs are not the main cause of death in iraq - disease is - but in terms of deaths, particularly of children, by explosive ordinance, most of it is made in the USA. ever heard of "shock and awe"? you know, one of the larger sorts of war crime committed by an industrialised country this decade? hm? or perhaps the dropping of 500 and 1000 pound bombs into densely populated nieghborhoods? do you know what the blast radius is of ordinance that heavy? a quarter of a mile radius. let me say that again, genius - a quarter of a mile - in cities made of clay brick and concrete, meaning that if the bomb didnt shred you in the first second, your house coming down around your ears is pulverised and actually chokes you with dust.
what kind of fucking animal drops a half tonne bomb in a super densely populated area? one made in the USA. oops, did that offend you?
austin316 said:
my point is that people, and by people I mean liberals need to stop giving terrorists an excuse for their actions. Just like the criminals and low lifes of our own society liberals ENABLE their behavior (notice I didn't say democrat I'm reffering to striclty far left), they would even scream bloody murder if we cruely and brutally tortured one of these people to gain information (say about bombs going into a subway) that saved 100 innocents from death or injury
oh bullshit, youre starting about 10 steps down the ladder of cause and effect. terrorists dont come out of their mothers womb with an explosive vest, theyre a product of their environment (of course some people are more prone to these sorts of acts than others, but regardless, such latencies exist in us all). talking about why terrorists do what they do and dealing with it isnt appeasement, or enablement - its flat out common sense (which isnt too bloody common, imo!)
rather than have to torture someone to find out where the next bomb is going to be, dont you think it is a more agreeable state of affairs if everyone was happy, and there were no bombs in the first place? so maybe, you should take a look at what is making people unhappy? like, you know, the dirty great big american base on land occupied by their ancestors for the past few millenia, which happens to facilitate the syphoning of their most valuable natural resounce (oil) from under their very feet, by a bunch of fat, well fed foreighners, while they struggle to merely survive? hm?
austin316 said:
These are evil scumbags who would just as soon stomp on a newborn infants head to appease to their twisted version of Allah to make a point to us "infedels" as they would go after a soldier. Don't turn this on anything to do with Iraq, get it through your heads that this isn't about Iraq, this is abotu sick fuckers who need to have their bodies scalded in acid and dragged through a vat of pigs blood before being before ending their worthless evil lives, I don't view these fuckers as people, they are a plague of evil on the Islam/Muslim world. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BUSH OR IRAQ!!! Mother Theresa could be our prez or englands prime minister and they would still do this
if mother theresa sent troops into iraq to maim and kill iraqis, bombed the hell out of entire neighborhoods, levelled whole cities (fallujah), with an agenda of basically looting an entire country, then i daresay id agree with you....though i get the feeling htat mother theresa wouldnt do such a thing. get your head out of the sand (if not from your intestinal observatory) and realise that the policy is the problem.
austin316 said:
as far as the point about innocents dying in Iraq, well Sadaam had no problem massacaring his own people, countless women were raped brutally while their husbands were forced to watch Sadaams men do this and kill their children without a second thought. Our soldiers do not set out to intentionally hurt innocents, the resistance sure does though, bottom line innocents would still be dying in Iraq if we weren't there and in a much more gruesome way, down the line it is our goal that none of this will happen once they get their system in order and take control of themselves and can show they can protect themselves from these lunatics
youre right. if we didnt kill them, they would have died anyway, so it must be ok.
idiot.
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