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Young and low T

Crazy Barbarian

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Im not happy to post these results as they put me in a debby downee kind of mood.
Age: 20 ht: 6'3 1/2 wt: 225 bf:14-17%
Years training: 4
Dead- 525 squat- 305 bench-265

Never cycled, never done a ph, taken normal supplements like whey and creatine since I was 16, took one tribulus supplement at 18,

So should I go on trt? I want to have kids when im older but I also want to live a happy life...

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You guys s super helpful...

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Have some damn patience!

NO! your too young for HRT, your T is low because you are deficient in one or more nutrients. Fix the underlying problem and T will go up.
 
I eat a lot of healthy food ... what could I possibly be deficit in...

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The naiveity of your reply proves my point. Im not going to recreate the wheel and explain to you the dozens of places you may be deficient but suffice it to say the FDA recommended daily allowance is by and large a joke.

Our farmland is overfarmed and devoid of many nutrients so the food we eat is lacking as well.

Next, we are inundated with toxins daily that tax our bodies and use up resources for detoxification.

The very fact that your T is in the tank at your ages screams deficiency and the chances of it resolving itself are slim to non.

So you can stick your head in the sand and TRY and get on TRT (and doing so will undoubtedly leave the door open to additional deficiency issues to rear their ugly head) OR you can try and solve your problems now and likely avoid some more serious issues down the road.
 
Okay then why did my doc say I didnt have a nutrient deficiency, what could I be deficient in? What should I take?

That would help a lot more then just basically calling me an idiot.

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Okay then why did my doc say I didnt have a nutrient deficiency

Because doctors have about as much nutritional education as you apparently do. Most of them also buy into the RDA bullshit, they are doctors not nutritional experts.


what could I be deficient in? What should I take? That would help a lot more then just basically calling me an idiot.

Your not an idiot but you are naive. Anyone who sits back and doesnt even question whats wrong with them and blindly takes the word of one man (or woman) with "Dr." in front of their name is going to set themselves up for a world of hurt in the future.

You need to open you mind and start questioning things. Many nutrients go into making hormones and they are influenced by many bodily processes.

Have you even googled "low testosterone" and read any of the pages that address the condition? I can give you a whole slew of things to look into but its going to be a waste of my time because your going to see my list and blow me off so why should I waste my time if your not going to even take the time to help yourself?

Your test levels are not normal, especially for someone your age. Finding the deficiency is going to be a long road and likely cost a bit of money in the form of tests and supplements. It can take a long time to build up various nutritional elements in the body and you wont be able to judge the effects until you do. This is not going to be a quick fix so you have to be committed to finding the problem.

This isnt as easy as me just giving you a list of supplements and why so many people out there suffer from a myriad of problems. They simply see a doc, told they are OK and sent on their way and dont question it. Id recommend you simply start googling "natural cures for low testosterone" and see what you come up with, dont focus on these all in one test booster products but pay attention to the everyday nutrients needed in the process. Learn about the various causes. Read medical papers, studies and websites to learn how nutrients affect your body. Seek out a naturopath or functional medicine practitioner to get you on the right track.

You literally have the world at your fingertips with the internet and apparently refuse to use it. I wish I had access to the shit we have now when I was your age.

Maybe even try a book. SOmething like this..

http://www.amazon.com/Drugs-That-Do...=1383705792&sr=8-15&keywords=David+Brownstein
 
At 20 though even if his diet consisted of McDonald and Burger King it still should be in normal range . There's more to it than nutrition in ur case I would assume .. What does ur dr recommended ?
 
At 20 though even if his diet consisted of McDonald and Burger King it still should be in normal range .

You think so huh? Deprive yourself of vitamin C and see how long it takes for you to fall apart. Do you think the rash of juvenile diabetes sweeping the western world is just bad luck or nutritional?

The problem with deficiencies is they arent acute. They dont present a simple easy indicator of a problem. They appear as reduced system functions which in turn get classified as a disease when ignored long enough. Its not until the "disease state" that doctors even usually get involved and when they do they just want to throw prescriptions drugs at you.

At the end of the day, nutritional deficiencies may not be the root cause of his problem but they will surely be exacerbating it. So even if he were to go down the nutritional path to find a solution what does he have to lose? On the other hand what does he have to gain? A whole lot of practical knowledge, a better understanding of many of the bodies inner workings and a much healthier base on which to apply medicinal therapies.
 
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