A Reminder About Clomid and Nolvadex

[Backtobasicks]

Was waiting for a thread like this... I've never used real nolva (used "nolva" to try stop some gyno getting worse but wasn't real, don't think. so nvm)
But since a simple 500/week test e cycle... I've been running unleashed, post cycle.. Along with d aspartic acid... And just recently I've been getting confused as my vains are out great... Bits down there aren't shrunk down anymore... and I'm getting decent pumps in the gym.. (went through 2 weeks after the ester cleared without anything but letro which was pain.(trying to kill gyno)

Summary... Not sure which product is working but d aspartic 3G a day, 3 unleashed pre workout or morning, 3 post cycles a day... Jeezus the overall hardness is basically back.. Feel like I'm back on without the high blood pressure. Feels great guys !!

 

[stevesmi]

i agree. Nolva is definately one i never recommend.. it made me feel like crap during pct!!! . clomid people run at too high a dose. if you run it at 12mg a day that is ample stacked with some unleashed to cover up any sides. people are running it at 100mg or 50mg and reporting major sides. when i've run clomid at 50mg i would get emotional sides but internet myths out there on internet forums dictate that its normal to go through a hellish PCT. IT DOESN"T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY!! you can run a pct that won't make you feel like shit

 

[Nelson Montana]

Was waiting for a thread like this... I've never used real nolva (used "nolva" to try stop some gyno getting worse but wasn't real, don't think. so nvm)
But since a simple 500/week test e cycle... I've been running unleashed, post cycle.. Along with d aspartic acid... And just recently I've been getting confused as my vains are out great... Bits down there aren't shrunk down anymore... and I'm getting decent pumps in the gym.. (went through 2 weeks after the ester cleared without anything but letro which was pain.(trying to kill gyno)

Summary... Not sure which product is working but d aspartic 3G a day, 3 unleashed pre workout or morning, 3 post cycles a day... Jeezus the overall hardness is basically back.. Feel like I'm back on without the high blood pressure. Feels great guys !!

One of the nice (and often overlooked) benefits of UNLEASHED is harder muscles. More strength too. That comes from lowering SHBG.

 

[deejleos]

Awesome read Nelson!! But I have noticed that many members that are outside the US seem to really rely on these drugs for PCT, I don't know if they know about these BETTer products that are available or have limited access to these OTC supps.


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[Stryker1992]

Are Post cycle and Unleashed what you suggest in liu of???

 

[Voijn]

I am a very good eksample that nolvadex ruined my sex drive, wasent able to get hard enough! I also cried all the times, and my mood went from happy to shit without reason!

Ill be feeding my trash can nolva!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Are Post cycle and Unleashed what you suggest in liu of???

Actually, I think using NOTHING is better than using Clomid or Nolvadex, but yes, the ingredients inUNLEASHED and POST CYCLE are part of what will help the transition back to recovery. And I'v been recommending them long before they were even available.

 

[rich_89]

What would you use on cycle if gyno became an issue? Surely nolva is the way to go for gyno related problems??

 

[Nelson Montana]

What would you use on cycle if gyno became an issue? Surely nolva is the way to go for gyno related problems??

Or cutting back on what's giving you gyno.

 

[needtogetaas]

What would you use on cycle if gyno became an issue? Surely nolva is the way to go for gyno related problems??

Why in the hell would that be? Estrogen goes up when on nolva, and it upregulates the progestrine receptor. Both of which proven through studies and when you come off nolva ( unless taking a extremely low does) you are always going to have a rebounding case of hyno.. You must take nolve with provirone or a suicidal aromatase inhibitor And should always end with one too. It all depends on how and why your using them but nolva is always the last choice.

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