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incase you have not seen the studies. Yes nolva does up regulate the PR

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Effects of tamoxifen on steroid hormone receptors ... [Gynecol Oncol. 1999] - PubMed result

Effects of tamoxifen on steroid hormone receptors and hormone concentration and the results of DNA analysis by flow cytometry in endometrial carcinoma.
Nola M, Jukić S, Ilić-Forko J, Babić D, Uzarević B, Petrovecki M, Suchanek E, Skrablin S, Dotlić S, Marusić M.
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Department of Gynecology and Obstetrics, University Hospital and School of Medicine, Zagreb, Croatia.
Abstract
OBJECTIVES:

Tamoxifen is a nonsteroidal triphenylethylene derivate with a predominant antiestrogen activity, used in the endocrine treatment of breast and endometrial cancer. It is not known which endometrial carcinomas will respond favorably to tamoxifen and which ones will not. The aim of this study was to find out whether tamoxifen has an effect on hormone steroid receptors, hormone concentration, DNA content, and proliferative activity in endometrial cancer and to correlate the tamoxifen-induced changes with pathologic parameters such as clinical stage, tumor differentiation, depth of invasion, and histologic type.
METHODS:

Thirty postmenopausal women with endometrial carcinoma were treated with 30 mg of tamoxifen daily for 7-10 days after curettage. Steroid hormone receptors (estrogen and progesterone receptors), levels of follicle-stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, prolactin, estradiol, progesterone, testosterone, dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate, sex hormone binding globulin, and DNA ploidy and proliferative activity were determined before and after therapy. The patients were also divided into favorable and unfavorable prognosis groups according to classical histological parameters. The patients in the favorable group consisted of patients with stage I disease, well and moderately differentiated tumors, favorable histologic type, and a depth of myometrial invasion of less than (1/3). The patients with only one of the unfavorable parameters (clinical stage II or III, poorly differentiated tumors, unfavorable histologic types, and deeper invasion of myometrium) were included in the unfavorable prognosis group.
RESULTS:

After the treatment, there was a net increase in the progesterone receptors and sex hormone binding globulin and a significant decrease in the estrogen receptors. The increase in progesterone receptors and decrease in estrogen receptors occurred in the patient group with favorable prognosis regarding histologic type, degree of differentiation, and clinical stage, but also in the unfavorable prognosis group regarding the depth of myometrial invasion. Statistically significant decrease in the follicle-stimulating hormone concentration was observed in the groups with favorable prognosis regarding histologic type, depth of myometrial invasion, and grade of differentiation. Concentration of sex hormone binding globulin was significantly increased in groups with favorable prognosis if histologic type and grade of differentiation were taken into account. On the other hand, there was a significant decrease in the concentration of luteinizing hormone in the group with unfavorable histologic type and also a decrease in progesterone concentration in patients with unfavorable prognosis regarding the grade of differentiation. There was no statistical significance either in the concentrations of other hormones measured or in the DNA analysis by flow cytometry.
CONCLUSIONS:

Our results revealed that tamoxifen can increase progesterone receptors and decrease estrogen receptors in endometrial cancer. The effect was most pronounced in tumors with favorable clinicopathologic parameters. We conclude that tamoxifen therapy can induce progesterone receptor synthesis even in tumors with low initial progesterone receptor levels, making such tumors potentially responsive to additional hormonal therapy with progesterone.

Copyright 1999 Academic Press.

PMID:
10053103
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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So if you are using deca,tren,deislbolan,npp, any progetrine/nandro just forget nolva now and forever. Thanks :biggrin:
 
It can increase progesterone related gyno even with a small amount of progesterone i.e. nandralone and tren
 
That's why I don't use Nolva. It is shit and should be left alone. I'd rather use some NTBM products. free promo lol
 
great post!
i usually rec people not to use nolva with prog steroids
 
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Great post.
 
NEED2 you may have read my previous thread where Body Building.com FUCKED me over and never sent my x2 bottles of unleashed (Only because you ran out I ordered from them.) I was just wondering, I'm leaving australia and getting to Portugal around the 20th, but my best friend is leaving on the 28th and said If i can order the products to Australia by the 28th then he'll bring them - is this something you can anticipate happening because if its a definate yes (obviosuly aside from customs) then I think I'll go ahead and pay again..

NB: DO NOT EVER ORDER OFF BODYBUILDING.COM THEY ARE CHEAP SKATES AND STOLE MY MONEY WITHOUT EVER SENDING THE PRODUCT AFTER NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS. EVEN THEY ADMITED THEY HAD LOST SOME ORDERS BUT ARE REFUSING TO PROVIDE A VALID TRACKING NUMBER!! DO NOT USE BODYBUILDING.COM

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