Clomid -- Especially Bad For Guys Over 35

[Nelson Montana]

ANother thing to keep in mind. One of the ways that Clomid works is by acting as an estrogen so the body doesn't release as much of its own estrogen. This in turn sends a signal to the LH to "balance" it out by releasing more testosterone. But here's the rub. If you're suppressed, and especially if you're a little older, the body can't "keep up" and produce enough testosterone. What makes it worse is the "faux estrogen" that is the Clomid will have the same effects as HIGH estrogen -- which is why guys get weepy, lose libido etc.

So again, Clomid is a crap shoot and in older athletes it's a really bad bet. There are better options.

 

[Labtec70]

Hi Nelson

That's really interesting and I totally get where you're coming from.
I'm 42 and on HRT (Sustanon 250) shots for life following TC in 2001/2002. When I cycle I don't use a regular PCT since I bridge the gap between cycles with my normal TRT dose.
I'm not really sure if Clomid would be applicable to me in this case. Anyhow, what anti-E or AI would you suggest is better for me on cycle? I was thinking of Arimidex, as others have recommended this, but I'm not sure if they're aware of my age or situation. Is Arimidex suitable in my case and for my age?

Thanks Nelson.

Craig

 

[Nelson Montana]

Hi Nelson

That's really interesting and I totally get where you're coming from.
I'm 42 and on HRT (Sustanon 250) shots for life following TC in 2001/2002. When I cycle I don't use a regular PCT since I bridge the gap between cycles with my normal TRT dose.
I'm not really sure if Clomid would be applicable to me in this case. Anyhow, what anti-E or AI would you suggest is better for me on cycle? I was thinking of Arimidex, as others have recommended this, but I'm not sure if they're aware of my age or situation. Is Arimidex suitable in my case and for my age?

Thanks Nelson.

Craig

1/4 mg of a-dex 3x's a week if fine for most guys.

 

[GangstaDogg]

Not to mention the crap sides of Clomid. 50mgs of it got me dizzy like a drunk man and feeling nauseous all day.

 

[1Johnboy]

Great info to know Nelson, thanks. I am way over 35!

 

[phil34]

Great info Nelson.Cheers mate.

 

[dusteefartz]

So what would you use as a replacement? Forma?

 

[Nelson Montana]

So what would you use as a replacement? Forma?

As an anti e, yes. But clomid is used for PCT, forma is an anti e best used on cycle. For PCT, best results would be UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE, BRIDGE and GEAR. But even if I had none of them, I wouldn;t use CLomid. But that's me.

 

[lanier1974]

Interesting. Im in week 8 of 12 my first cycle, and after reading countless hours of diametrically opposed opinions, I am really struggling as to whether or not to include Clomid in my PCT.

Presently, ill be switching to Test Prop for the last 4 weeks so the esters clear quickly after last pin. Was planning to blast HCG from last pin, for 10pins/20days/2000iu, then start Nolva, or both Nolva and Clomid.

Not sure what to do :/

 

[patternsco]

As an anti e, yes. But clomid is used for PCT, forma is an anti e best used on cycle. For PCT, best results would be UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE, BRIDGE and GEAR. But even if I had none of them, I wouldn;t use CLomid. But that's me.

So you would avoid clomid altogether Nelson? Apart from being tearful, is there anything negative that would hinder recovery? Not sure i understand whats 'bad' about it.

And what protocol would you advise for the unleashed/postcycle, brigde and gear with no clomid? Have you recovered well off this?