Zinergy
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Hey everyone, decided to post up a log here of my helladrol cycle.
Age: 24
Height: 6FT
Weight: 185lbs
BF %: ?
Previous cycle experience, 1st cycle: Helladrol at 75mgs/day for 30 days. This was my fav, no problems was smooth sailing all the way through had formastanzol for pct along with forged pct and another test booster. I gained a good amount of muscle and also a lot of vascularity.
2nd cycle: This one was a mess imo, this was a helladrol/katanadrol stack. Not only was I on for about 45+ days I did at one point reach 150mgs of helladrol ed for a few days until I threw up one morning, cut it back to 75mgs right away. I honestly didn't gain as much as I was expecting mainly based on how much I was taking.
Post cycle was a bastard for this cycle too, I was struck with prolactin sides. I don't know why but I did some research and apparently orastan a which is what Katanadrol is made off of has been known to cause prolactin issues.
I'm thinking prolactin because I could discharge a very small amount of fluid that was cloudy from my nipps, I'm talking barely a drip, but still apparent.
I had HCGenerate for post, forged pct and formastanzol.
Now the one thing I'm boggled about is before starting pct I was at 200lbs, and after pct I dropped back down to 185 but I actually gained strength throughout pct, so I don't know if that was water weight I lost or what.
Anyways, to make a long story a little shorter lol I didn't like my 2nd cycle and don't want to experience anything like it again so on to my current cycle.
So the goal of this cycle is to bulk up as much as possible without effecting my HPTA/natural test production too negatively so I can hopefully start another cycle quickly and start my cutting phase.
So below you will see my dosing schedule, I think this is best looking to keep it short and sweet while tapering in and out.
For PCT this time around I have formastanzol, clomid, tribulus teresteris and fenugreek. Figure the faster I'm up and running the faster I can start another cycle. From reading around doesn't look like many suggest clomid for a helladrol cycle since its rather mild?
Keep in mind each cap of helladrol is 25mg so day 1 I'm taking in 50mg of hella.
Also, I think the PCT clomid dosage may be rather aggressive, let me know what you think. But I plan to go with this dosage and once my boys are plump and riding low I'll slow it down gradually.
Dosing Schedule
Day:
1: 2
2: 2
3: 2
4: 2
5: 3
6: 3
7: 3
8: 3
9: 3
10: 3
11: 3
12: 3
13: 3
14: 3
15: 3
16: 3
17: 3
18: 3
19: 4
20: 4
21: 4
22: 4
23: 4
24: 4
25: 4
26: 4
27: 3
28: 2
29: 2
30: 1
Post Cycle: Clomid
1: 150mg
2: 150mg
3: 150mg
4: 100mg
5: 100mg
6: 100mg
7: 100mg
8: 100mg
9: 50mg
10: 50mg
11: 50mg
12: 50mg
13: 50mg
14: 50mg
Like I said the point of this cycle is to add as much lean mass as possible while keeping fat gains to a minimum.
As for diet I'm currently doing carb cycling keeping my average daily carbs at about 3000/day.
Most of the calories come from protein which is roughly 400grams ed which equates to about 1600 calories. The remainder comes from clean carbs such as brown rice and whole oats and god damn is that ever filling.
I weigh 185lbs and hit the gym 2.5hrs a day 4 days/week. So with 3000 calories I'm at a slight surplus.
So on to my regime....
Monday/Thursday:
Squat: 3 x 20
Deadlift 3-5 x 10
Lats (isolation)4-6 x 10
Biceps (isolation) 4-6 x 8
Tuesday/Saturday:
Chest 3-5 x 10
Shoulders (isolation) 4-6 x 8
Triceps (isolation) 4-6 x 6-8
ABS (non weighted exercises, mostly roman chairs and stomach vac's)
For example on Monday I will do different isolation exercises than Thursday. The same applies to Tue/Sat. What I'm planning with this routine is to overdevelop my arms and mainly upper body while increasing definition/tone on for example my legs/abs.
A little more than a week ago I donated some blood to lower my RBC since I've had somewhat moderate-high BP (125-130).
So fast forward a little past the background stuff, I'm currently on my 6th day on as I write this.
Day 3 on cycle I noticed being a little tired in the gym and a very slight soar throat.
Day 4: Some flem and worsening of the throat.
Day 5: Soar throat much worse and runny nose, yellow flem (saw the dr, he suggested advil cold and sinus also wrote a prescription for penicillin if the problem worsens.
Day 6: Soar throat is better, still runny nose and cold symptoms. Tottaly depleted at the gym today before completing my entire routine.
So I'm not going to try to remember exactly what I've done so far but I haven't been in top shape but will continue to keep a detailed daily log of my exercise days here if there is interest.
One thing I have noticed so far is I believe I'm taking in too many calories, I feel a little chubbier. I don't know if its because I'm sick or what but I'm going to lower calories to about 2500 and do about 30-60 minutes of low intensity fat burn on my off days.
Will also post some before pics in the next day or two, so far I have noticed a crazy increase in vascularity and strength.
Age: 24
Height: 6FT
Weight: 185lbs
BF %: ?
Previous cycle experience, 1st cycle: Helladrol at 75mgs/day for 30 days. This was my fav, no problems was smooth sailing all the way through had formastanzol for pct along with forged pct and another test booster. I gained a good amount of muscle and also a lot of vascularity.
2nd cycle: This one was a mess imo, this was a helladrol/katanadrol stack. Not only was I on for about 45+ days I did at one point reach 150mgs of helladrol ed for a few days until I threw up one morning, cut it back to 75mgs right away. I honestly didn't gain as much as I was expecting mainly based on how much I was taking.
Post cycle was a bastard for this cycle too, I was struck with prolactin sides. I don't know why but I did some research and apparently orastan a which is what Katanadrol is made off of has been known to cause prolactin issues.
I'm thinking prolactin because I could discharge a very small amount of fluid that was cloudy from my nipps, I'm talking barely a drip, but still apparent.
I had HCGenerate for post, forged pct and formastanzol.
Now the one thing I'm boggled about is before starting pct I was at 200lbs, and after pct I dropped back down to 185 but I actually gained strength throughout pct, so I don't know if that was water weight I lost or what.
Anyways, to make a long story a little shorter lol I didn't like my 2nd cycle and don't want to experience anything like it again so on to my current cycle.
So the goal of this cycle is to bulk up as much as possible without effecting my HPTA/natural test production too negatively so I can hopefully start another cycle quickly and start my cutting phase.
So below you will see my dosing schedule, I think this is best looking to keep it short and sweet while tapering in and out.
For PCT this time around I have formastanzol, clomid, tribulus teresteris and fenugreek. Figure the faster I'm up and running the faster I can start another cycle. From reading around doesn't look like many suggest clomid for a helladrol cycle since its rather mild?
Keep in mind each cap of helladrol is 25mg so day 1 I'm taking in 50mg of hella.
Also, I think the PCT clomid dosage may be rather aggressive, let me know what you think. But I plan to go with this dosage and once my boys are plump and riding low I'll slow it down gradually.
Dosing Schedule
Day:
1: 2
2: 2
3: 2
4: 2
5: 3
6: 3
7: 3
8: 3
9: 3
10: 3
11: 3
12: 3
13: 3
14: 3
15: 3
16: 3
17: 3
18: 3
19: 4
20: 4
21: 4
22: 4
23: 4
24: 4
25: 4
26: 4
27: 3
28: 2
29: 2
30: 1
Post Cycle: Clomid
1: 150mg
2: 150mg
3: 150mg
4: 100mg
5: 100mg
6: 100mg
7: 100mg
8: 100mg
9: 50mg
10: 50mg
11: 50mg
12: 50mg
13: 50mg
14: 50mg
Like I said the point of this cycle is to add as much lean mass as possible while keeping fat gains to a minimum.
As for diet I'm currently doing carb cycling keeping my average daily carbs at about 3000/day.
Most of the calories come from protein which is roughly 400grams ed which equates to about 1600 calories. The remainder comes from clean carbs such as brown rice and whole oats and god damn is that ever filling.
I weigh 185lbs and hit the gym 2.5hrs a day 4 days/week. So with 3000 calories I'm at a slight surplus.
So on to my regime....
Monday/Thursday:
Squat: 3 x 20
Deadlift 3-5 x 10
Lats (isolation)4-6 x 10
Biceps (isolation) 4-6 x 8
Tuesday/Saturday:
Chest 3-5 x 10
Shoulders (isolation) 4-6 x 8
Triceps (isolation) 4-6 x 6-8
ABS (non weighted exercises, mostly roman chairs and stomach vac's)
For example on Monday I will do different isolation exercises than Thursday. The same applies to Tue/Sat. What I'm planning with this routine is to overdevelop my arms and mainly upper body while increasing definition/tone on for example my legs/abs.
A little more than a week ago I donated some blood to lower my RBC since I've had somewhat moderate-high BP (125-130).
So fast forward a little past the background stuff, I'm currently on my 6th day on as I write this.
Day 3 on cycle I noticed being a little tired in the gym and a very slight soar throat.
Day 4: Some flem and worsening of the throat.
Day 5: Soar throat much worse and runny nose, yellow flem (saw the dr, he suggested advil cold and sinus also wrote a prescription for penicillin if the problem worsens.
Day 6: Soar throat is better, still runny nose and cold symptoms. Tottaly depleted at the gym today before completing my entire routine.
So I'm not going to try to remember exactly what I've done so far but I haven't been in top shape but will continue to keep a detailed daily log of my exercise days here if there is interest.
One thing I have noticed so far is I believe I'm taking in too many calories, I feel a little chubbier. I don't know if its because I'm sick or what but I'm going to lower calories to about 2500 and do about 30-60 minutes of low intensity fat burn on my off days.
Will also post some before pics in the next day or two, so far I have noticed a crazy increase in vascularity and strength.
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