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Molly Malone

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posted September 22, 2000 04:56 PM

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The old Nikes just aren't cutting it anymore, and when taking a look around the gym I am seeing everything from steel toed boots to those aerobic high heeled killers.

Can I get a few suggestions? I was thinking maybe just another pair of cross trainers, but was wondering if what the committee recommends.


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Fitnes1

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posted September 22, 2000 05:18 PM

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Hi Molly! Nike aerobic shoes have always worked for me because I did teach aerobics AND I do so much cardio.

Generally, you need to get a shoe that's comfortable to you. Try on several styles. Really Nike aerobic shoes have worked great for me for about the last three pair I've had. But, remember too, that depending on how often you use your shoes, i. e. if you do cardio daily, then your shoes are going to wear out more frequently. My aerobic shoes generally last me about 6 mos. but not much longer.

Also, when my feet begin to hurt a lot I know it's time for a new pair. Write on the calendar when you buy them and that can be a reminder, too.

Hope this helps!

Oh, I buy mine at Sports Seasons or Foot Locker.

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JayeLynn

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posted September 22, 2000 06:26 PM

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Head over to you local speciality runner's shoe store and have one of the salesmen fit you into a shoe designed for your foot type. Runners Roost does it out here. that way you will be less likely to compound problems (like if you naturally pronate, foot sits valgus or varus, high arches, etc.) My recommendations beyond that are to make sure that you have enough flexability in the plantar (bottom of your foot) for good stretch and flex, and stay away from ankle support in the form of hightops.

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MrMuscle

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posted September 22, 2000 06:38 PM

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Ok i know everybody thinks im a loon...but when it comes to shoes i say Otomix..they are GREAT..
www.otomix.com

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JayeLynn

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posted September 22, 2000 07:37 PM

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..wish I could wear 'em, but they are not on my list of ...feasible options. But, youre right about Otomix: theyre the next best thing to nothing ...which is the ideal.

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Monster

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posted September 22, 2000 08:57 PM

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I have 23 pairs of Nikes... one to match every possible color I could wear... they have never let me down!
Steel toed boots are a fashion trend among those who want to appear "hard core", and are not really too functional.
I wear Nike to the gym and always have, they are my summer shoe of choice for non gym activities, also.
In the winter I opt for Timberland boots, and Wallaby's (Clarks) which I have in every color made... gotta match...

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bikinimom

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posted September 22, 2000 10:33 PM

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OK - while we are talking about shoes (sneakers), could wearing worn or improper shoes (ie wearing running shoes during kickboxing - boy did I learn that lesson THE HARD WAY! I've had a big, fat, ugly black big toe for 4 months and I fear it will take until the next coming for that fucker to grow out!) cause one knees to hurt?

I've noticed lately that my knees just don't feel right. I feel pain behind my kneecaps when walking DOWN stairs and when my legs are in certain positions. The pain is not severe its just nagging. I get the feeling something is not quite right.

I will NOT do hack squats EVER as they DO make my knees hurt and it seems that extensions also hurt them - even extremely lite weight: I'm talking 2 or 3 warm-up sets at 20 to 30# for 15 reps.

So what do you all think? Is this something that could be caused by shoes? Or should I just fucking bite the bullet and have my freaking physical (a year overdue - don't yell too loud) and mention this to my doc?


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SassyS

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posted September 23, 2000 10:17 AM

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Im with MM, I love my Otomix, esp. on leg days. If I dont wear them, then its cross-trainers.


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Monster

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posted September 23, 2000 10:23 AM

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Oh dear sweet bikinimom... hack squats and extensions are probobly two of the worst exercises for the knee ever invented! I have "questionable" knees too, and wouldnt hack squat if an army of naked amazons were to lift a hack squat machine on to their shoulders and bekon me to climb aboard...
Seriously, though.
The problem is that these "machines" are putting the knee joint into a locked plane of motion, and for those of us with already so-so knee joints, that spells trouble!
Shoes may have been the culprit initially (but mabye not) but once the damage is done, all you can do is learn to live with it and adapt training to it.
Its been terrible for me! I free squat, and my quads just will not exhaust before my knee! Anytime I try to squat over 350lbs my knee screams in protest, like the little front dealy (the patella if I remember right) wants to pop off and go wait in the car till Im done.
Ive kind of switched to a volume approach in the hopes of keeping my legs up to par, warm up light and climb up in weight slow.
The angled leg press doesnt bother me at all (go figure), I can bang out up to 900lbs on ALP and my knees seem to have no quarrel with me (the spoiled little bastards). My theory is that the ALP allows you to make minor foot placement adjustments and actually move your knees around a bit, and therefore redices the strain?!?!
I dunno, but I know hack squats and extensions suck.

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bikinimom

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posted September 23, 2000 07:30 PM

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Brotha Monster - thanx so much for the reply! I was told that extensions was one of the only ways to bring out the cuts in quads pre-contest....what to you recommend? Front squats are awfully difficult to do in the few weeks immediately before a contest because my strength is shot and the bar all but rolls off of my arms - forget about adding much weight. Off-season I can front squat 95# for 12 w/a spot. I've heard that one-legged leg presses are also good - I have NO PROBS with either ALP or seated leg press. I also have no probs w/smith machine lunges (I'm careful not to extend knees over toes.) and SLD are usually super-setted pre-contest.

I feel better already!...Here I was thinking that I was going to be a crippled up old broad when I was just beginning to get half-way decent! :0 .....THAT WOULD BE A CRIME!


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WarLobo

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posted September 24, 2000 10:14 AM

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Sissy squats.

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Monster

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posted September 24, 2000 03:26 PM

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HEY WHO YOU CALLING A SISSY!?!?!

Yeah, sissy squats are good! My gym actually has a little leg thing you lock your ankles in to do sissy squats without holding something.

Also, I think extensions can be an option at the very end of a leg workout, when the knee joints are really warm.
On leg day, I squatted. Pretty heavy and ended up doing like 6 sets. I had warmed up on the stationary bike for about 15 minutes.
Between squats, I was stretching my quads (like holding for 10-15 seconds). So when I go to ALP's, theres a little chatting convention on it. Three women who look like theyve settled in for a long stay. I dont say anything in cases like this, because hell, everyone has a right to be there, so I look for alternatives...
Well, theres the extensions machine... (heh heh, I thought of you when I saw it bikinimom).
So I figure I'll give it a light go.
I get on and set the pin to 160lbs. Boom, 12 reps, easy and feeling good! Knees feeling good... so I worked it up to 200 then the whole stack of 250lbs. I got 10, then 8 reps. I got up and my quads were SCREAMING! My knees felt fine and my quads had cuts showing like never before!
So we'll see next leg day if it was a quirk or not.

...on a related side note.
physiologically, knee pain comes from a weakness in the inner quad muscles, which are the anchors for the knee caps. if not a weakness, then an unbalance. Like shin splints come from an imbalance in the soleus versus the gastronemicus and whatchamacalit (um, extensor digitus? I think...).
So if your outer quads overpower your inner quads, that could be the problem. Personally, I have nice symmetry in my legs, and I think years of poor form may have contributed to my problems. Not that lugging 260lbs around is easy on the ole knees...

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Monster

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posted September 24, 2000 05:55 PM

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Ok now Bikinimom, Im looking your picturtes over with a critical eye (as opposed to my usual perverted eye).
Your leg development has really come a long way! But I do feel like your knee problem is an issue with balance. You have good development on both inner and outer quad, but it does seem like you might have a heavier outer than inner quad. It looks great, but may be causing the "anchor" of your knee cap to be pulled around.
Its hard to tell without seeing in person, but it kind of looks that way to me.
BTW, beautiful taper to your back! Ive seen backs built like yours before, and I can see you can get even more taper to it...
All in all, you have a couple areas that can be brought up, but nothing is really overpowering anything else. Which is great, becasue it distracts judges from anything that may need work! (what happened at the contest in May??)


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Cocktails

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posted September 24, 2000 11:54 PM

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OTOMIX!!!
Definately the way to go. Go to the site, pick out your shoes, (I suggest the Stingray Boot or the 2000's) and E mail me. I'll get them for you at wholesale!


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WarLobo

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posted September 25, 2000 01:05 AM

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Your slipping Monster... For some strange reason I can do extensions. As in the whole stack (250) with ONE leg for reps of 10. And when I'm really feeling good I'll super set with presses.... But DO NOT ask me about my squats. Shit, ever since my back surgeries it has not been the same. Better, much better, to be sure. But I'm always keenly aware of form and not to over stress the lower back.

And to keep somewhat on topic, I like wrestling shoes for work outs. And then cross trainers for cardio - not that I ever DO cardio!

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Monster

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posted September 25, 2000 06:51 AM

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Yeah, lower back is a m.f.er with squats... Im not really built for squats anyway, long torso... it makes it hard to keep straight while squatting!
Im gonna try extensions again on leg day coming up. I was excited by the feel I got from them and the look of my legs after, so mabye with a lot of warm up theyll be back in my repetoire!
But 250 with one leg? eehhh, Im too wimpy for that...


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Molly Malone

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posted September 26, 2000 11:36 AM

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Thanks for the help! I checked out the Otomix website and the shoes look great. So as soon as payday hits.....


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WarLobo

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posted September 26, 2000 03:59 PM

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Hehehe... Wimpy? You Monster? Yah, right....Hey, like I said - it is just about my strongest lift... Almost. My calves by some strange act of God can lift more! So I have a whopping TWO good, strong body parts! Oh boy.... now if I could just get seated calf raises into the Olympics.... shit, never mind, I'm on cold medicine and would be disqualified!

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