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 Andriol? Does it work?
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 91 |
Considering a next, of Andriol but my research is giving me mixed messages. Anyone have any experience with it? I've read that it works and read that it doesn't. ------------------ quote:    | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 28 |
Are you a he or a she? If you're a guy, I'd say forget it. I tried 280 to 320mg/day for about 3-4 weeks, and got nothing. I then tried 1 amp Sustenon/week on the same diet/training/etc. Felt strength gains the first week (actually took 2 amps the first week). Gained maybe 18lbs (w/ no fat increase) in around 10 weeks. I really think Organon sells the stuff as an easy way out for Docs to get rid of guys requesting HRT--you know, here's an Rx, now get out. I think I even saw a study saying that men on HRT preffered depo test. to Andriol. If you're a woman, I don't know. I've always wondered what the stuff would do to women.  | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 1378 |
I would not touch the stuff. Many reasons why of course, but bottom line is there are to many other good options. ------------------ Lobo | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 98 |
Is there anyone here other than me who thrives with Andriol? I'd say it's a sensible test. dosage form for women to try before comitting to sustanon (or that cyp.) But other than that I'd agree with Aaron that males would do better with shots. The dosage suggested by Organon will do little more than boost serum test to a low, low normal male range. Which is cruel and sucky if he was previously cranking out a multiple of that on his own... Andriol should be 'miss-marketed' instead. And it should be eaten with an oily meal. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
Artemis, WOW! I've finally run across a woman who uses Andriol. You must tell us more--sides, good effects, dose vs BW, and anything else you might want to add. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 91 |
I like Artemis's idea about the Andriol, just want the best results possible. If not this, what would be the choice? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
I forgot to mention that there's another problem with Andriol--ie, it's a little difficult to ship. It's oil in a gel tab, so the tabs tend to melt together. I got mine from India, in the bottles, in their original boxes--frankly, I was very lucky it got through customs. Hopefully, you can get it domestic. Some people also say it goes "bad" easily, but I don't think this is true. It's also pricey, but the female dose probably offsets the cost. Cocktails, there a lots of good options, so long as you're willing to do jabs. And women have it easy here if you ask me--what's one jab at 1/2 to 1cc/week? Very little compared to what guys have to put up with! Or is it that you want to stack an androgen that's not 17-aa? If that's the case, it seems like it might be a sensible option, but I don't know. Artemis seems to be the only female with 1st-hand experience on this. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 91 |
Aaron, Jabs are not a fear. Just trying to get some good gains with the lest amount of sides. Doing a straight primo ride at the moment. Trying to plan the next move. Thought I'd go for the muscle and than do a Winny cycle closer to spring. What would you suggest? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
Cocktails, I'm no expert on female AS cycles. Warlobo's your man there, I think. You could probably check the archives at this board under his posts. My opinion: I always thought women moved on from Primo to Deca if they were looking for to increase LBM, and didn't think the Primo was doing enough. I'm still waiting to see a post from Artemis about the Andriol--has she contacted you? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 91 |
Aaron, Yes she gave me the advice. I wasn't doubting her, as she is one smart cookie, just getting other imput as always like to be as informed as possible. Yes, WarLobo is extremely knowledgeable and I was going to copy his wife's and friend's cycle of Sust. Then Artemis told me she thought the Andriol might be a better try before the Sust. Any info is always greatly appreciated! | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1378 |
Can you find this stuff? I've done a bit of looking and damn if aint around much. While sust, or just about any basic test, is cheap and very easy to get. Don't get me wrong, Arte knows her poop So many things come into play, it's hard to everything you want any time you want it! ------------------ Lobo | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 91 |
WarLobo, Yes I can get it and it's resonable, butwhen you say "basic injectable test", what are we talking about? | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1378 |
Any of the more common tests: sust, cyp, prop, and about a half dozen others. Just to clairify a bit, if you can get them (andriol), the cost is within reason, and you feel this would be a good option, by all means follow Arte's advise on this. And keep us posted on your results! ------------------ Lobo | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 49 |
Go to roid.com there is a long article by Dan Duchaine on Andriol. There is alot of information here, decipher if you wish. I was never very interested in Andriol, so I didn't spend much time on it... Hope this helps. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 91 |
Rocco, Very good site. I just spent some time reading many if the articles there. By the looks of the info there, it doesn't sound very good for the normal BB. But for the older, (me), the ailing, (me sometimes),and for the cautious, (definately, me). it looks like a very possible choice. Storage and transport do seem to be a problem. Have to talk to Artemis about that and see what she thinks. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 51 |
Anadroil is only 40mgs and is not cost effective at all. I alway like to toss in a few on some cycles, but the little red caps are hard to find. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 98 |
Other distractions last week -sorry. Why Andriol and not injectable test. ester? Well, one can simply stop swallowing the Andriol, but the test ester cannot be removed once it's in. Why testosterone instead of nandrolone (aka. Deca)? Nandrolone is progestational as well as anabolic, and so it is inhibitory to both the hypothalamus and pituitary -and I don't want to scramble the axis if I can avoid it. Again, no easy way to stop an ester dose 'on a dime'  . Plus, With finasteride inhibiting the formation of DHT, one can block a substantial amount of the virilization associated with a 5-alpha reduced AAS structure, while still getting the aromatization to estrogen and resulting activation of the hGH and IGF axes.The oral dosing also could minimize hypothalamic downregulation as the medicine is not constantly there as the case with an injectible. So I saw Andriol as a 'go-between' Primo and other injectibles... Dosage: Each and every day, including the days with no Andriol, I also used 1/2 tablet (2.5mg) of finasteride. First month was one gelcap Andriol three days on, one day off, for 21 days. Then none for the rest of the month. Realistically, this is a lackluster dose, and seemed weaker than 100mg of weekly Primo depot. I didn't gain weight from one gelcap - well maybe a #. Next month: upped it to two/day for the next 21 days. Did the same for the third and fourth months, only with 3 gelcaps per day of therapy. Now this seemed useful. During these three months time I regained about 8 lbs. and got another 50# to the squats, so I was just shy of 315# again. Plus I felt profoundly healthy for the whole duration. I do not recall any particular androgenic sides' from therapy. It would be hard to say if my voice changed or not seeing as in the past I had adult resonance. It seems to have restored authority back to my voice. As for costs, well agreed that test. ester is Way cheaper than most other AAS but so what? This cost factor alone should probably not be driving the choice of the medicinal we pick. Maybe I'll be game for sust soon. That and/or something else I may arrange to cook-up to improve on Anavar I also wonder how the potency compares between one dbol and one Andriol. Have I left out anything important? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 91 |
Artemis, What about the refrigeration issue? Is this the major concern that the report on roid.com, seems to think it is? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 49 |
Hey Cocktails, the article you read on Roid.com is not the same article that I was referring about, although it wasn't bad. The article I read was actually written by Dan Duchaine, and it talked specifically about it's use for women.. I will look around to see if I can find it for you.. I'll keep you posted ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 91 |
Rocco, Thanks. Would greatly appreciate that. Liked the other site alot. Very informative. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 91 |
Artemis, On the 2nd, 3rd and 4th month, when you upped the dosage, did you still do the same?? (3 days on , 1 off for 21 days and then nbothing for the rest of the month? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 98 |
Yes. The idea for the 7 days without treatment is mentioned here: http://www.mayohealth.org/usp/html/202037.htm |
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posted August 30, 2000 01:26 AM