2 - Knowing that throughout the world women are treated as second class citizens. From having to wear barka (head to toe covering) to female circumcision (removal of the clit)

3 - Knowing that religion propagates the idea that men are somehow holier than thou.

4 - the old boy network

5 - Understanding that when you come to excel at sports, to find out that there's no organized sport that will pay you 1/2 of what the men make.

6 - Living in a man's world and hearing them whine about reverse discrimination.

7 - Having your husband of 30 years leave you for someone 25.

8 - Hearing the excuse " But it relly didn't mean anything" when you know if you did it it would be a different story.

9 - liking sex and being called a "slut" for it.

you women are forgetting these:

1 - the right to cry like a little BABY whenever you want to.

2 - if you are good looking, never having to be insecure about it. because unlike women, men will let you know about it constantly.

3 - desperate guys that will do anything for you.

bottom line: you can make complaints about being man, woman, black, asian, white, etc. be happy with who you are and remember there are millions of others that deal with it just fine.

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And as far as being a 9/10 woman - I would never be so bold as to proclaim that I fit into this catergory, however, I will be the first to admit that there are advantages to being percieved by society as being attractive - OK? - HOWEVER - there are also DISADVANTAGES:

1) Almost ALL other women hate you, judge you, won't even give you the time of day and make many social situations painful. When is the last time you picked your kid up from school and had practically EVERY other mom stair you down and refuse to talk to you? - heck they LOVE to talk ABOUT you - God FORBID any of them say, "Hello"! Jealousy is rampant and if another woman who is REMOTELY insecure about her appearance is in a position to make your life difficult even though SHE HAS NEVER SAID, "BOO" to you - you better believe SHE WILL.

2. Most men will only give you the time of day because they think you might be stupid - because we all know that a woman CAN NOT POSSIBLY be BOTH pretty AND smart! or because they might be able to get you for a roll in the sack - because we all know that all attractive women are whores - or sluts (hell, a whore is a smart woman because she at least gets paid for her trouble. Now isn't that an oxymoron?)

3. Everyone is DYING for you to fail...goes back to the jealousy thing.

I'm not REALLY complaining about any part of being female or attractive or HEY, BUTT-UGLY for that matter. I'll go with MS and say, "THANK GOD I WAS BORN IN THE US!"

Lisa: Forget about men giving birth... I dont even like taking a big crap

kaizen: at 260lbs, I feel free to cry whenever I please... no one usually says anyhting (at least where I can hear )

Monster at 260#'s you can do just about anything you darn well please!!!!

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"Pain, is just weakness leaving your body"

"...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica

"After this show i'll be fat and happy again.....If i make it to the show...." - Lee Priest

"Lets put some weight on the bar.." - Shawn Ray

oh almost forgot, the over prescibing of Ritilin is also totally ridiculous. let boys be boys. don't put em on drugs.

As for the 56% of college students are females - THANK GOD!!!..we're making progress. No one is keeping the men/boys OUT - which if memory serves WAS THE CASE w/women not too long ago.

The bottom line is that I do not know what it is like to be black or hispanic, but I do know what it is like to be female and yes, it does have it's pros in some situations. But to say that it DOES NOT have cons is ignorant. No flame, just stating that a man saying that a woman is not discriminated against and gets the same opportunities that a man gets - all other things being equal - is like me (caucasion) saying that with affirmative action and all the social progress that has been made - all other things being equal - the same opportunities are afforded a person of color.

Are their people in EVERY group who excel REGARDLESS of what obstacles they face - HELL YES. But let's get real - this ain't a perfect world.

Brotha Monster - your mother was indeed a smart woman and excellent mother. It is a great gift to your wife and daughter that you recognize this and want to pass this on!

here is a book you might want to read: "The War Against Boys: How Misguided Feminism is Harming Our Young Men". Oh, and it was writtin by Christina Hoff Summers, a feminist.

You may also want to check out this link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ts/book-customer-reviews/0684849569/qid=967573872/002-9337820-5885614

I'll check out the site you listed above when I have time. About the book - I'll be honest, I don't have much time to read.

Again, I am sorry for the difficulties you encountered in school - I believe that this is tragic (no sarcasm). But, please don't tell me that the world is flat.

But to me kinds are the main concern. That is where we have our chance to change things!
How many kids grow up to be bigots or sexist who didnt come from that type of a household? Very, very few I'd say! So if we can raise children in a healthy environment we can pass along understanding (I REFUSE to call it "tolerance" as that implies the wrong ideals. People are different - you must "UNDERSTAND" that, not "TOLERATE" it!).
So like the cliched old sayings go, it begins at home...

I have this argument with my brother all the time. He has very specific gender defined roles he believe in, even while preaching the opposite. He wants his children to play with any kind of toy, no matter if its supposedly boy oriented, or girl oriented. But then also demands dinner and laundry be done, and basically wants to be waited on. Ive tried to convince him that his daugther SEES what he does as much as hears what he says, and this action determines the type of man she'll seek when she gets older. We all seek the same qualities in a spouse as our parents had (even when negative) and dont even conciously realize it. So your actions bear as much weight as your words on you childrens development!

Bikini kudos to you as well...

D1734: I understand your frustration as a teacher as a gifted student as a foster parent, as a counselor to severly emotionally disturbed boys...medicating children into acquiescnence is no answer... schools are overcrowded and under supplied, teachers underpaid... the heroes set out for our children, boys in particular, are not good role models of honest clean living hard working people they are gangsta rappers, overpaid overhyped athletes with drug and morality problems...their afternoons are filled with sega videos that put them literally in control of guns and killing the things on the screen with horrible effectiveness...they watch TV shows that glorify immediate gratification...this isn't a feminist thing it's a cultural and global issue...Perhaps it is a pendulum swing in a way...the focus has been put on giving women and minorities an equal foothold and in so doing wiggled the ladder on men, white men, any men in power ... so yes things are changing for men...and maybe that is scary to some men and maybe it is not fair to some men but as the old saying goes....don't tell a man/woman that you understand his/her pain until you have walked a mile in his/her moccassins.....Personal responsibility, personal chutzpah is the key...My paternal grandmother left home at 17 in the early 1900's and took a train to DC and walked into her senator's office and said I want a job...she didn't even have the right to vote yet!! She got the job... She didn't come from the "right" side of the tracks, she didn't have the best youth, education or opportunities but she had something else determination to make something of herself and whatever opportunity she created for herself because no-one was going to hand it to her...Is that something we are seeing instilled in kids today? no. Is it possible to change that ...look at bikinimom and monster's posts... D1734 I'm not saying it wasn't hard and I'm not saying it's right to put anyone down to bring someone else up but if we all work together we can chnge it for everyone for the better.

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PE class...girls are sitting there not trying at all in basketball. do they get punished? never.

me in Home Ec class...i refuse to sow the mother fuckin pillow. i ended with an "I" in the class and in-school suspension.

if you people wanna be so disillusioned to think that its a "white man's world" go right ahead.

HOW MEN AND DOGS ARE THE SAME

Both have irrational fears about vacuum cleaning.
Both are threatened by their own kind.
Both mark their territory.
Neither tells you what's bothering them.
The smaller ones tend to be more nervous.
Neither does any dishes.
Neither of them notice when you get your hair cut.
Both like dominance games.
Both are suspicious of the postman.
Neither understands what you see in cats.

WHY DOGS ARE BETTER THAN MEN

Dogs do not have problems expressing affection in public.
Dogs miss you when you're gone.
Dogs feel guilt when they've done something wrong.
Dogs admit when they're jealous.
Dogs do not play games with you--except fetch (and they never laugh at how you throw).
Dogs don't feel threatened by your intelligence.
You can train a dog.
Dogs understand what "no" means.
Dogs understand if some of their friends cannot come inside.
Dogs admit it when they're lost.
Dogs aren't threatened if you earn more than they do.
Dogs mean it when they kiss you.

WHY MEN ARE BETTER THAN DOGS

Men can buy you presents.
Men don't have to play with every man they see when you take them around the block.
Men are a little bit more subtle.
Dogs have dog breath all the time.
Men don't shed as much, and if they do, they hide it.

DA BOMB: men tend to be smarter in math and spatial skills. thats just the way it is. i was always the top student in math from a young age (i was "that kid" in 2nd grade who finished the 100 addition problems in less than 2 minutes), and i noticed most of the other top students were male. the cliche is true, women are usually stronger in language skills on average. as far as chemistry goes, not sure. i did good in that because i was interested in it. i would say that is probably the explanation for that, men just tend to be more interested in that.

are men being prejudiced against as far as being elementary teachers? no, less are interested in it. (which is a shame)