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FitnessChick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1080) |
posted August 12, 2000 10:08 AM
  
Here's something to think about...something pretty damn scary that I question the reason as to why it happened...A friend of ours( myself, Irongod, & Steelsoldier) who was a pretty consistent gear user, had a heart attack 2 days ago....he is 30 years old...he is still in the hospital, & we are awaiting word on how he is.....He is 5'11, 285- A really big solid guy....he has taken sus, d-bol, ...well, almost everything you can think of in the last 5 years....he cycled off, but not for as long as he should have....
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missgalaxy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 327) |
posted August 12, 2000 10:20 AM
Wow. Sorry to hear that FitnessChick...I'm sure you'll keep up posted on his status. IP: Logged |
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blackhaus1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 785) |
posted August 12, 2000 11:57 AM
Fitness Chick, It is very possible that he had a pre-existing heart condition that worsened with the use of AS. Was he checked regularly?? Another possibility is that his heart problem is hereditary. I know a 45 yr old that recently had a septuple bybass on his heart. He was healthy, ran 3 miles a day, didn't smoke, didn't drink. The doctors called it hereditary... Your friend will be in all of our prayers, as we hope for his speedy recovery...Keep us posted. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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IronChick Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 92) |
posted August 12, 2000 03:20 PM
Sorry to hear about your friend. I have wondered this same thing, too. A good friend of mine, who also was a regular gear user, who appeared to be in good health suddenly had a massive heart attack and died instantly. He was a closet gear user, so there was no open talk about it being implicated in his death. I would not say he was an abuser judging from his look. But, I did speculate the same thing as far as him having a pre-existing heart condition or some kind of inherent weakness triggered by usage. Sometimes these things go undetected throughout life. IP: Logged |
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Iron God Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 363) |
posted August 12, 2000 04:14 PM
He is alive and they are running tests so the we should know soon, This is the second guy I know this year that had a Heart Attack,the other guy was 28 and died.Both of these guys took SERIOUS amounts of juice and were massive (275 +). I'm 25 at 269lbs and sometimes my ticker goes bump-bump in the night but my BP is ok and I get a physical every 3 months with no problems. This kind of shit just spooks me. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Moderator (Total posts: 1108) |
posted August 12, 2000 04:27 PM
Damn, well all just take this with a grain of common sence. Get yourself in to the doc at least once a year and better to do it twice if your using. LAte Lobo ------------------ Lobo IP: Logged |
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bikinimom Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 511) |
posted August 12, 2000 05:10 PM
I heard that a well-known fitness competitor/model just died of a heart-attack recently - she was also in her very early thirties. Is this also gear-related? Not that I am saying that I understand that steroid use will lead to a heart attack, I was just wondering if the two (gear use or should I say ABUSE and heart attack) were connected. I always saw pics of her where she looked smooth, yet muscular and very feminine looking. Could certain performance enhancing drugs perhaps aggravate an unknown pre-existing medical condition? I know this might seem like a silly question, but being that these "aids" are illegal should one confide in their health care provider that they are using even if it is low doses and frequency? And what if that particular physician is unaware of the specific consequences of such behavior? IP: Logged |
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Iron God Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 363) |
posted August 12, 2000 05:20 PM
BikiniMom, Her name was Dana Dodson(sp?)she was 31 and a friend of FC's, she died at a club in NYC. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 696) |
posted August 12, 2000 06:37 PM
You all know the risks. Frankly it is impossible to blame any one 'supplement' for something like this. Modern hard-core bodybuilders take a lot more than just AS. Clen, T3,DNP, even ECA are very hard on the heart and can trigger undiagnosed conditions in otherwise healthy people. Add to that list stuff like GHB, nubaine, diuretics, GH......and the list goes on and on. I guess this is not the board to suggest moderation in all things! Whatever the reason, I hope your friend makes a speedy and full recovery, and can we can use it as a learning experience IP: Logged |
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Iron God Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 363) |
posted August 12, 2000 07:25 PM
Most of the Guys who I know that sauce, never cycle off or bridge cycle to cycle for years... real crazy shit.This one fellow I know is 6'2" 345lbs (Bf% ??) and has abbs. He is on a 10 year bulk cycle and has NEVER cycled off. Maybe this will serve as wake up call for some of these idiots. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Artemis Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 85) |
posted August 12, 2000 10:39 PM
Wishing him well. Some of the hereditary factors related to heart-attack are listed here: http://www.bioheartinc.com/biogeno_pubinfo.html Sorry this is a commercial site, I just don't otherwise have a list handy with this range of info concerning the polymorphisms related to heart-disease risk in one place on short notice. As to a connection with AAS, well consider the 17aa'd orals slow bile flow (cholestatic jaundice). These alkylated formulations also result in derranged blood cholesterol levels (LDL way up, and HDL fractions down...) since cholesterol doesn't clear properly. Esterified AAS won't pose such problems -the heart and great vessels love testosterone. It would be a good idea to monitor one's blood lipids. Here's another commercial link devoted to this purpose: And it probably goes without saying that we All should know what our blood pressure is, and no home should be without a decent instrument. This advice goes in Triplicate to anyone fooling around with stimulants, clen, thyroid, ECA... It wouldn't be clear what role hGH, IGF-1 and such might play. And do listen to Bikinimom. The doc should be in on things. Especially concerning the liver and lipid panels for those who insist on using those 17aa'd orals. [This message has been edited by Artemis (edited August 12, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Iron God Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 363) |
posted August 13, 2000 08:24 AM
Great info Artemis. Thanks all IG ------------------ IP: Logged |
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bouncer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 316) |
posted August 13, 2000 12:24 PM
"It'll never happen to me!!", famous last words... Real sorry to hear about your friend. I suppose we all know someone who never come's off the sauce, it's crazy. I'm presently into a ten week test/deca cycle and like all my other cycles I go 'clean for the same lenght I was on. Keep us posted on his medical history. Bouncer ------------------ IP: Logged |
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blackhaus1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 785) |
posted August 13, 2000 02:34 PM
Didn't Dana Dodson have a heart attack from use of ecstasy?? Or was that a rumor? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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F1hybrid Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 3) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:54 PM
The transsexual literature (women to men), thus far doesn't show any increase in morbidity or mortality (any disease) with years of testosterone treatment (250 mg/2 weeks) in comparison to normal women. Whether higher doses of T or the use of C-17 alkylated orals will lead to problems is not known. Keep the doses down and stay with T and/or nandrolone for longer cycles and/or off season use to at least reduce potential risks, and watch the stimulant use. F1hybrid IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Moderator (Total posts: 1108) |
posted August 13, 2000 04:39 PM
Interesting post F1.... ------------------ Lobo IP: Logged |
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Fitnes1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 225) |
posted August 14, 2000 09:15 AM
Good Luck to your friend FitnessChick! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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FitnessChick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1080) |
posted August 14, 2000 06:02 PM
Hi all....I have been soooo busy lately no time to post....thanks for all the great input.....hopefully he will recover 100% & never have any probs again.... Bikini Mom, I was a friend of Dana Dodson... not too close, but still friendly, saw her on a regular basis....she had a heart attack due to ecstacy...it was laced with other stuff....either sped up or slowed down her heart so much she had an attack- it was outside the sound factory in nyc....I never thought of her to be the type to use it... IP: Logged |
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BigPappa Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 590) |
posted August 15, 2000 03:09 PM
Man, when I hear this stuff it spooks the hell out of me. Any more news here? Was his blood pressure high? What was his diet like? What have the doctors said? IP: Logged |
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Checkmatebloated Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 888) |
posted August 15, 2000 03:20 PM
Sorry to hear this. A 32 year old skinny man at my work dropped dead last week on the basket ball court from a heart attack. No know heart condition he just passed. I think if you have a pre-existing problem do no about it there are many things you can do to speed up the chance of a heart attack and juice is one of a list of many. Did this guy use and rec drugs in his younger life that may of added a few years work to his heart? Rumor has it an 8ball of cocaine about $150 worth will take a range of 5-10 days off your hearts normal life. Just a rumor I read before. If he used any drug along with juice that is even worse. Just asking the question. Do you know? Was he using Human Growth AND insulin? Maybe he has and enlarged heart> Either way it is said, but not common in roid users. I can not wait another 15years to see what happend to the likes of Lee Haney and the other pros. I hope they live a normal life, but I thing with all the different things they take I can not see how. IP: Logged |
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Caesar Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 140) |
posted August 16, 2000 04:13 PM
Is anyone surprised? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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