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Author | Topic: Milk Thistle |
riptchick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 249) |
posted July 30, 2000 03:49 PM
Lot of talk about milk thistle and liver protection/repair? Is there any studies behind this that are noteworthy regarding effectiveness? Anyone have any information related to when to supplement with this i.e. during cycle, after, always, etc.? Thanks. IP: Logged |
MS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 640) |
posted July 30, 2000 03:57 PM
There are plenty of studies showing improvement in liver enzyme profiles while using milk thistle. This may or may not translate to liver protection, but it is still probably a good idea to use it if you're taking orals or drinking alcohol, etc.....The liver gets a hard time in our modern living conditions. Why not take it all the time? To answer my own question, I guess there have not been any studies on the long term effects of consuming milk thistle. IP: Logged |
riptchick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 249) |
posted July 30, 2000 04:26 PM
Thank you, MS. Your insight is always helpful. IP: Logged |
skydancer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 556) |
posted July 30, 2000 05:42 PM
Now this is interesting..I agree MS - these are some hard environmental times on our bodies...does anyone know if fresh tea is as good as any other way to take milk thistle? I've also read that dandelion is good for assisting the liver - but that it may (Oh NO) increase appetite? Any thoughts? ------------------ IP: Logged |
fitness-for-life !! Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51) |
posted July 30, 2000 06:27 PM
Milk Thistle has been used for over 30 years in England. No side effects, used to help cleanse the liver.. IP: Logged |
MS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 640) |
posted July 30, 2000 06:37 PM
Silymarin/silybilinin are the active components of milk thistle (so you don't have to drink the tea). These are very exciting compounds. Not only are they strong antioxidants that can protect against or improve hepatitis, but they also show a lot of potential in the treatment/prevention of diseases such as cancer, arthritis and other inflammatory conditions. This is why I personally think it's a good idea to include them in your supplement regime along with all your other antioxidants. Much of the research is in early stages, but definitely encouraging. IP: Logged |
BigPappa Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 577) |
posted July 30, 2000 10:05 PM
LIV52 is the best. Russians gave it in the 70s to their roided up juice monkeys. Don't know if its available domestically...I get mine from international source. IP: Logged |
riptchick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 249) |
posted July 30, 2000 10:15 PM
Liv52 huh? I'll have to see if I can find that. IP: Logged |
MS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 640) |
posted July 31, 2000 05:27 PM
MILK THISTLE (Silybum marianum) The liver is the most important organ of metabolism. Disruption of normal liver function results in significant disruption Avoidance of these damaging chemicals is the first defense against liver damage. The second defense may be the use The common milk thistle contains some of the most potent liver-protecting substances known. The concentration of Another way in which the liver can be damaged is by the action of leukotrienes. These compounds are produced by Perhaps the most interesting effect of silybum components on the liver is their ability to stimulate protein synthesis. Silymarin is not very soluble in water, which means that very little find its way into a tea made from the milk thistle How Silymarin Works Silymarin works in three ways. It strengthens the outer membranes of livercells, preventing penetration by Silymarin also protects liver cells because of its powerful antioxidant action. Antioxidants neutralize cell damage IP: Logged |
riptchick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 249) |
posted August 01, 2000 10:43 AM
GREAT INFO! IP: Logged |
Artemis Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 71) |
posted August 01, 2000 11:09 AM
How difficult is it to cultivate this stuff? IP: Logged |
MS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 640) |
posted August 01, 2000 02:56 PM
Ordinary milk-thistle is VERY easy to cultivate. I don't know about the european variety with high silymarin though. Around these parts milk-thistle is a weed! Geesh. But it's low potency stuff. The standardized extracts are pretty expensive, which means either someone has a corner on the market, or it's not cheap to grow and extract. IP: Logged |
Superstar2b Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted August 01, 2000 03:05 PM
Doesn't evening primrose oil also protect the liver? My boyfriend uses this while on goodies. Should he switch to milk thistle instead? IP: Logged |
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