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tnheygirl Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 24)	posted July 01, 2000 05:10 PM Hey I can't seem to get enough sugar. It's been going on for about 3 years now. I have been tested for anything and everything and it still comes up normal. I wake up in the middle of the night out of a dead sleep go eat a little debbie, donut,ect. then go right back to sleep. Same with after naps. This is an OVERWHELMING urge. I start my primo cycle next week. (first one) and I wonder if this strangeness will fade or get worse. Also a side question-should I do my clenbut. first then my primo cycle after? Or vice versa IP: Logged
dirtyratt Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61)	posted July 02, 2000 12:49 AM i always crave sugar. come to think of it both sugar and salt. i don't think it is anything to worry about though. it is 12:45 and i just finished eating a nutty bar as for the clen and primo. have you ever done clen before? if not; i would say do the clen then see if you even need the primo. why do a steriod if you don't have to. if you have done the clen before i would say do it after the primo cycle to shred you up a little. i will be interested to see what everyone else says. good luck -dr IP: Logged
tnheygirl Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 24)	posted July 02, 2000 01:02 PM dirtyratt I LOVE NUTTY BARS! HEE HEE Well I am 5ft2 125lbs and about 18%bodyfat. Hey I'm old o.k Anyway I have been in gymnastics for most of my life until the past year and it shows. I always thought people who told me "just wait until you hit 30" were full of it. They weren't. I am still more muscular than most but I need to be at around 118lbs. I have done enough aerobics to kill a person and weight lifting of course to no avail. I'm shocked, losing weight has never been hard for me. I am using Hydroxycut. It's good but it still isn't doing the trick. I think I'll go ahead and do my cycle first then the clen. I hear it's good to have a little meat and fat on the bones when you do your cycle. Thanks for the input. ------------------ "To Thine Ownself Be True" IP: Logged
MS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 466)	posted July 02, 2000 03:14 PM Hi Tnheygirl. Have you ever suffered from depression? The sugar cravings you describe sound very much like cravings that can be brought on by low serotonin levels in the brain. And chronically low serotonin levels can sometimes lead to depression symptoms. Do you have the cravings all the time, or are they worse at certain times of the month? I think your plan to put a bit of muscle on before losing the fat is a first-class idea. Just be careful you don't deprive yourself of calories on the primo cycle (you know, trying to lose fat while gaining muscle). Get as much muscle from the primo as you can, then when you cut with the clen you'll find it easier to lose the fat AND look even more awesome from the extra muscle. ------------------ The Mad Scientist IP: Logged
tnheygirl Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 24)	posted July 02, 2000 03:56 PM MS You tha man! Yeah as a matter of fact I have always been kinda melancholy. It's great for my writing though. No the blahs don't hit me at certain times of the month. It's very very random. I have read up on medications that work with your serotonin uptake process. You have to get the book it's very impressive. After I read it a light went off. (5-htp) by Michael Murray. It also touches on how 5-htp is an alternative to l-tryptophan which is metabolized by the liver where as 5-htp is not lost by conversion into kynurenine. My cravings are the worst when I get up from a nap or in the morning. I have always assummed it was just a bad addiction my body is wanting more more more! Peace ------------------ "To Thine Ownself Be True" IP: Logged
MS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 466)	posted July 02, 2000 04:47 PM Cool. Have you tried the 5-htp? That would be my first suggestion. If that doesn't help the cravings (and the melancholy) then there are other options to try. IP: Logged
FitnessChick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 906)	posted July 03, 2000 12:16 PM I found when I increased my protein to 2 gm per lb of weight my sugar & carb cravings diminished IP: Logged
MS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 466)	posted July 03, 2000 03:58 PM Increasing protein can curb sugar cravings depending on the cause of the cravings. At 2 grams per pound much of the protein consumed will be converted to carbs and burned the same way. If fluctuating blood sugar/insulin levels is the cause of the problem then this will help because the conversion of protein to carbs is a slow process and doesn't have a large impact on insulin. Increasing protein intake will usually increase tryptophan intake, which can help with low serotonin levels, but only if there are also enough carbs present to stimulate the transport of the tryptophan into the brain. Omega 3 fatty acids are another dietary aid to regulating serotonin synthesis. If you're on a low-fat diet lacking in Omega-3 you can also expect increased sugar cravings due to low serotonin. B-vitamins are another key factor in keeping the brain in balance. There's a lot to get right when dieting. But I bet tnheygirl's book probably covers all of this and more. What else does your book say about this topic? Of course, if you are suffering from too low in the serotonin department you could always just take Prozac. But your writing might suffer! ------------------ The Mad Scientist IP: Logged
tnheygirl Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 24)	posted July 03, 2000 07:16 PM MS Yes I agree that usually the higher protein foods you eat will raise your trypto. and thus the higher levels of serotonin can be manufactured and I understand carbs are what gets it to the brain through the blood. Low serotin levels lead to carb cravings, so you keep eating the carbs and more carbs and the brain's serotonin levels stay low and the carbs continue.(which can cause obsity) Wouldn't it be somthing if the brain just let you know you need protein to correct the prob? I eat chicken, fish, and eggs it seems constantly. Not for any other reason than I like them. I cannot imagine I need anymore fat or protein in my diet. Diet What diet? Hee hee Bad Girl! I will for the (sake of science)and my ass increase my protein intake and my vitamins. Prozac is out of the question! MS you'd probably enjoy my writing. Plus I would not take the gear and prozac together. So I may be looking damn good but never leave the house!JK Thanks for all your help. ------------------ "To Thine Ownself Be True" IP: Logged
tnheygirl Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 24)	posted July 03, 2000 07:19 PM MS Is Micheal Murray your surname? lol IP: Logged
Temple Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 42)	posted July 04, 2000 01:42 PM The seretonin thing is right on. I suffered from severe depresstion several years ago and still have a stockpile of prozac - haven't really needed it in a couple of years but the one thing I do remember about it is that when I went on it I lost alot of weight, and had no desire for sweets which is really unusual for me. I have really been having a tough time giving up the sugar so I got the pills back out and am going to try a really low dose for a month and see what happens. I am going to be really watchful of this as my doctor said something about Prozac upping your metabolism initially which give the weight loss but long term it has the opposite effect and will shut down your metabolism. Has anyone else had any experience with this? Also a tip for sugar cravings, when one hits get out the dill pickles - it won't even sound good a first but they do take the craving away. IP: Logged
tnheygirl Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 24)	posted July 04, 2000 11:44 PM Hey thanks for the pickle thing. It actually worked. ------------------ "To Thine Ownself Be True" IP: Logged
urination Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 12)	posted July 07, 2000 04:58 PM bump IP: Logged

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