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Moderator Posts: 1276 |
Ok.... I admit it.... Been slacking on your workout program D. And with the long fourth holiday coming up, I don't see myself sitting down and getting this done. So, that being said, I turn to the wonderful folks here to assist me in setting up a top notch workout plan that includes individual exercises, set, reps - everything a growing lady need! Here is my very basic and simple plan. Please note that you may have to adjust the weight as I have no idea how strong you are. Day 1 ------------------------------------------------ Pull-ups, narrow grip, thumbs facing toward your face (like you would hold a hammer) supper set with lat pull-downs, wide grip with palms outward. Set 1 5 pull-ups, 15 reps 50lbs pull-downs ------------------------------------------------- Circle supper set these three: abs, bis, rear delt flies - you will have to determine the weights and reps for set ups Set 1 setups, dumbbell curls, read delt dumbbell flies ------------------------------------------------------ Bent rows, four sets alternate under hand grip/over hand grip Set 1 OHG 45lbs (use the Olympic bar) ________________________________ Day 2 heavy cardio at least 60 min - if you ain't ready to puke then you need to increase the tempo ________________________________ Day 3 Incline bench ------------------------------------------------- Flat bench dumbbell flies - palms facing toward each other. Set 1 10lbs 15 reps ------------------------------------------------------ Decline bench - narrow grip - shoulder width. When you descend you elbows should point outwards, not "downward" and point to your feet Set 1 45lbs 15 reps --------------------------------------------------------------- Tris, can select from many different exercises. I like to change them every week and hit them from different angles. (this also applies to the bis) Four sets of you choice -------------------------------------------------------------- Standing/sitting shoulder presses. Alternate sets, straight bar behind the neck BUT only lower to the middle of your ear. If this is confusing just do them in front. And dumbbell presses Set 1 Straight bar 45lbs 10 reps _________________________________ Day 4 heavy cardio at least 60 min - if you ain't ready to puke then you need to increase the tempo. _________________________________ Day 5 SQUATS BABY! ------------------------------------------------------------------ Hammies ----------------------------------------------------- Calves ------------------------------------------------------ Single Leg extensions. ---------------------------------------------------------- Lying single leg hams ---------------------------------------------------------- Set 1 20 reps - 100lbs ---------------------------------------------------------- Leg presses ________________________________ Day 6 light cardio - if you can still walk at all, day 5 was not good enough _________________________________ Day 7 heavy cardio blah, blah, blah _________________________________ Now day eight can be a total day of rest or you can start back in on day one This is routien is based on major compound movments hitting all the major muscle groups approx one time per week. Tip 1 DO NOT WEAR A BELT at this time Late Lobo [This message has been edited by WarLobo (edited June 29, 2000).] | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 69 |
Dam! That ain't no joke! | ||
Freak Posts: 1993 |
im wondering..why the high amounts of sets? ------------------ "...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 140 |
YeeHawww.. youre gonna be in some pain that week. I feel for ya (not really though.. I'm always in pain). Go for it DLady! | ||
Moderator Posts: 1276 |
The number of set is not as much as you might think because we decrease the reps each set. You can of course adjust down ward, but I wanted to give you an idea of what my wife and I do - and also a few of our friends. Ed Coan often uses this training pattern. It is a basic pyramid program that incorporates both muscle fiber types - slow and fast twitch. This will promote a solid warm up and fills the muscle group with blood before you jump into the heavier weights. It also helps prevent injury. By learning to develop both fiber types you maximize size potential, stamina, and power. The last set on some of the exercises, if you notice, is a higher rep, lower weight set which will produce a substantial burn to the targeted muscle group without the danger to the joins (the weight is lower). This also prepares you for the mental challenge of pushing your body as far as it will go, learning to deal with the burn and knowing that your mind will and can push your body far beyond what you might think. I call this the ZEN set and it is fricking devastating. Forgive me but I forgot the most important tip ALWAYS HAVE A SPOT on the ZEN set. You should try to go till failure and it is paramount that a spotter be there to take the weight from you. After this set it is ok to puke, cry, swear, and generally fall to the floor and die. Late Lobo | ||
Moderator Posts: 671 |
FUCK. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 772 |
Do you have a set of different weight ladies around for your Donkey calf raises, or do you have a fancy machine that fulfills that role? Looks fun, except I can't fathom doing that much leg work in one day. It looks like over-training to my poor old body. I count 43 sets all up. If you could do 1 minute turnaround time per set (which is a minimum time when working with a partner) and had no set up time between different exercises it would add up to 86 minutes. And 3 of the exercises are done one leg at a time which doubles those set's time. I guess I'm just a wuss. Of course I'm also not 'on', so it would take me 3 weeks to recover from that workout! ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1315 |
Excuse me WL, what the hell are Donkey Calf raises? I have never heard of them. And what type of weight am I going to use for those? Secondly, I will do this work out next week, begin on the(10th) not the week of the Fourth, cause i would like to be able to move somewhat on the 4th. Thank You so much for this, I am sure I will be bitching up a storm around the 2nd and 3rd week of July, but I know all this work will pay off sooner or later! I will have one of the guys at the gym go over this with me once so I know the forms are right too, I do not want to injure myself!! Thank You WarLobo!!!! SMOOCH to YA!!! | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 65 |
What kind of weight are you going to use for Donkey Raises?? You are going to use the biggest Dude in the gym!! For these you have to get your toes onto a block to be able to get a full range of motion, then you lean forward with your elbows/forearms resting on a bench, then your "weight" climbs aboard and sits on your lower back. Once everyone is in place you start pumpin' out the reps, up and down. My husband weighs 270 and it's an awesome calf workout when he "helps"!! | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1315 |
okay litloak, I have seen those done by a woman in the gym, she is the only one that does them, meaning the only woman, she is a serious BB too, I asked her to help me before. So I will just ask her next week to help me out again with those thanks for explaining them to me!! | ||
Freak Posts: 1993 |
Some gyms actually have donkey calf machines..they are great...my, unfortunately, dont..so i had to quit doing them...cuz im a former sprinter, and my calves are pretty strong..so i had ti have 2 guys on my back...both from 2-300 pounds..plus some carry on weights... but there seldom are guys like that...but plenty of women like that though... ------------------ "...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica | ||
Moderator Posts: 1276 |
What kind of foo foo gyms are you all going to!! No donkey machine!?!?! Heavens.... Ok, if you do not have one, then go with one leg standing calve raises with a dumbbell in your hand. Now please remember that this is an 'on' workout plan. And yes MS, I do take about 90+ min in the gym on leg day. But the other days of the workout does go quick, and it's easy to be in and out in under 90 min. - and that even gives you some yap time. Additionally, on leg day, I will often super set the hams/calves and the extensions/calves. You can do this (soon) MS The sets go quick at the lower reps and rest is kept to a minimum. I try to keep my heart BPM up around 130 for the duration and use this as a bench-mark for my next set. You will sweat. No yapping and have your plates ready to load. Leg day is then followed by at least a day of rest and often I will stretch the lifting cycle to a day nine for a solid two days of recovery. After three weeks I will often take a three day break. I have found it IMPOSSIBLE to plan a workout based on the seven day week - it just does not work for me. Since I've extended the workout cycle to an eight or nine day rotation I've seen some very solid gains. Here is my opening exercise for the incline bench workout for last Sun: Set 1 135x15
Seated Set 1 90x15 Donkey Set 1 400x15 (this is the full stack of weight on the machine)
There you have it - comments welcome of course and questions encouraged! LAte Lobo [This message has been edited by WarLobo (edited June 30, 2000).] | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 277 |
Experimentation is the key anyway. Even if you do figure out what works best for you it often becomes necessary to do something different for a few workouts to get over a plateau. I find that I get the most out of a workout when I train with my man because every set he's saying c'mon one more or all you let's go. I like those forced reps, negatives etc. There's nothing like them for tweakin' every last muscle fiber. Plus, he's got such a plethora of exercises up his sleeve. I feel like I never do the same thing. Always hitting it from another angle. Keeps it fresh too. Always think the next level is just around the corner. Gym time for me is more a mental game that I play with myself. Be better than the next guy (or chick). Dlady, you can do it. | ||
Moderator Posts: 1276 |
Bikinimom, your command of the English language is quite astounding. However, being somewhat new to the board, I believe a more proper and articulate response should have been: Fucking Son-of-a-BITCH. This is just a helpful tip from your friendly Monitor - additional counseling is available for a minor concession.... :p LAte Lobo | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1315 |
Hold Up here LOBO! I am Not "on" as you say, so is this schedule now not going to work for me? I realize I will be in MUCH more pain but who cares, I like the pain it tells me I am working very hard! But I do not want to be able to NOT WALK and shit??? I can't even begin to be "on" for about another 6 months at least.... So can I still do this here? | ||
Moderator Posts: 1276 |
Yes it will work, just back off on a set or two and adjust the weights. But keep the basic principle of the pyramid. Keep in mind that the first two sets are really warm-up sets. They should be kept light and during this set, concentrate on good form and doing the lift perfect so that when you get to the bigger sets you have "trained" your body to the proper form. Late Lobo | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1315 |
OKAY THANKS, I WILL LET YOU KNOW HOW IT WORKS OUT.... | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 140 |
My guess is NO, you won't be able to walk. I usually can't after leg day.. for sometimes up to 2 days. But thats when I know I had a great leg workout. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 69 |
WarLobo:I have adopted this workout as my "New" routine. So far, I like it. Have been nicely sore everyday. For the heavy cardio, am bike riding through some trails in the woods. Very good work-out and it's outside! I would like some additional shoulder variety if you have it. My boyfriend is basically working it with me, except his weights are alot heavier. I have had to kknock the weight down a tad, but basically, a very excellent work-out! Thank YOu!! | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 108 |
OK, quick question, not. I noticed that for most of the exercises you went from light to heavy weight. For a few you went light to less weight, i.e. pyramid and twitch muscle differentials. So, here's my question. When doing any one exercise, is it better to go light to heavy (logicaly decreasing reps), light to heavy to light (adjusting reps accordingly) or go heavy then light. rest. heavy then light. rest, blah until set is done? Or, do different muscle groups respond differently? BTW, have been "lurking" awhile, and I respect @ 5 serious and informative postees (moderators or "pro" posters), you're one of them. Thnx. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 69 |
I'm with you Plato. This guy (WarLobo)knows his stuff! | ||
Moderator Posts: 1276 |
Cocktails, the shoulders are a very commonly over worked group. On day one we do the rear delts along with back. On our chest day, the incline and flat bench really work the front delts. And then we toss in some dumbbell presses to hit the last head. You can notch up the lifts/reps if you wish, but be careful. The shoulder does allot of secondary work from many of the big compound movements. LAte Lobo [This message has been edited by WarLobo (edited July 12, 2000).] | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1315 |
MY LEGS ARE KILLING ME!!!!! DAMN DEADLIFTS! EVERYTHING IS GOING GREAT THOUGH! BY THE WAY ~ I HAVE A BROAD BACK AND SHOULDERS TO BEGIN WITH! I HAVEN'T LOST ANY "SCALE WEIGHT" BUT I CAN SEE CHANGE IN MY OVERALL BODY NOW, IT IS SLIMMER! | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 415 |
My set,rep and weight scheme for my last workout on Sunday Chest Warm up- I Squat 135lbs for 3 sets of 25 to get my blood pumpin and body temp up. Incline press 225 x 6 (warmup) Flat Bench 425 x 4 (working) DONE took me 20 minutes to do chest (no chance of overtraining on this workout so far its nothin but gains)of course I also not taking anything right now (except multi-vitamins) Warlobo, ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1315 |
IRONGOD, DAMN BOY YOU SQUAT MORE THAN I WEIGHT ! SORRY BUT AS I AM SURE YOU KNOW I AM NOT THAT FAR ALONG YET! AND TO WHOEVER ASKED DO I HURT AND CAN I WALK AFTER THESE LEG EXERCISES, YES, I CAN BUT BARELY, I DID THEM ON MONDAY AND I AM STILL IN PAIN! | ||
Moderator Posts: 1276 |
Plato, the reasons for going light to heavy I've stated in the above posts. The mental/physical advantages just seem to agree with everyone who uses this training pattern as their primary (not exclusively) style of lifting. I've gotten soooo much positive feed back from many other folks - damn if I wish I hadn�t invented this training pattern! And is seems to work for a very long time. You might see good gains at the bottom for a while, then later you start seeing gains at the top weights. But in either case, you tend to get MORE positive feed back cause you can see improvements SOMEWHERE and this keeps you IN THE GYM! Maybe you hit a new rep out max on the "Zen" set - which is very cool. Or, maybe you hit a new "max" at the last heavy set - also very sweet. Now your light/heavy/light/heavy does have some good points. And for the more developed/experience lifter this may provide a nice break. But loading/unloading the bar all the time is not fun One problem your going to run into is how heavy do you go on say your fourth set? More weight than on your seconded set? Would this be motivating in the long run. Maybe the more advanced lifter would be satisfied, but hell, if you ask me, us "old timers" need to hit some new "highs" now and then too! Going heavy then light - as in a reverse pyramid is not as safe and folks tend not to warm up proper-like. If you were trying to get your ORM or something of that nature, then I suppose you would do a solid warm up and then hit it. Out of the three, this is my lease favorite. And I'm not in the one rep max club any more. Hope I've help a bit, you did ask some very good questions and in reality, we could spend a damn year in the gym "discussing" it LAte Lobo [This message has been edited by WarLobo (edited July 12, 2000).] | ||
Moderator Posts: 1276 |
I.G., well, your kicking my butt on the bench :p Very solid lifts. And I DO STRESS the rest days, I mentioned that I often take two days off, and stretch the lifting rotation beyond the seven days. And stretching the muscles has to be considered a SOP (standard operating procedure) on this board. I mean if your not doing this then you REALLY need to do some more reading. The cardio point I stress is not to do it more often, but to do it longer when you do it. I see this as the most common mistake. And another point, your in the advanced crowed :p and things get very different in many aspects of your training. Shhesshh, I mean, anyone who eats a whole fricking family meal for 12 at Boston Market in a single seating is WAY out there Late Lobo [This message has been edited by WarLobo (edited July 12, 2000).] | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 415 |
Lobo, Whats your set total for legs quad/ham breakdown and do you believe in doing more than 1 compound movement for them in a workout?Also you ever try German Volume Training with squats?(that is major ouch!) ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1315 |
Lobo, can you PLEASE explain to Big Pappa that I am still in the "learning stage" and to quit flamming me so damn much! Well, I am off to the gym now to do my chest and tris... have fun here today guys and gals. | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 415 |
It's the $11.99 meal special and its the best deal in town in fact it's 11:30 time to get sum. ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 108 |
Thnx for the answer, I like the idea of a "Zen" set. | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 594 |
Dlady: I am not flaming you. Stop starting shit. I have never FLAMED you for being a "beginner". Anyways, hope your workout went well and you were able to let some steam out! | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 69 |
WarLobo: Thank for the reply on the shoulders. I wasn't sure if I was doing enough. I have a bad rotater cuff, and I feel like I baby it sometimes. It sure does hurt,tho! I'm off to do legs! Boo Hoo!! | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 69 |
Did that freakin' leg work out on Thursday, and am still beat! I could have sleep all day, Friday. Thank God, it was my day off. Layed by the pool and read Body Opus. Today, I am stiff. I find that a good workout usually doesn't get me sore the following day, but the second day. Does anyone else experience that reaction? | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 140 |
Cocktails, I have the same 2nd day reaction when I do legs. The worst are the 2 nights of no frikkin sleep after my leg workout. I cramp up all night, toss and turn, sometimes lay there wondering what the hell is wrong with me to purposefully inflict so much pain on myself. (Then I take 2 Tylenol PM) | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 69 |
Sassy, Thanks, never thought of the Tylenol PM. Duhhhh! I think I'll start trying the analgesic and Vit C that he recommends in Body Opus, before a work out, too. | ||
Moderator Posts: 1276 |
One thing I will do before a hit a super leg day is to take two asprin. The more you think about this the more will like it. LAte Lobo | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1315 |
Okay, this is for any ladies here just starting out like me ( only 6 months into this)maybe more. I am going to try and justify myself here. Now I am taking a sculpting class just to change things with my body for a bit, (6 weeks) which isnt that long, then I will go right back to the program again. So if you need a plan just TRY THIS ONE, PLEASE! Give it a shot, it does work! BUMP, BUMP BUMP! ------------------ | ||
Moderator Posts: 1276 |
bump | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 45 |
Where is Dlady???? She use to be on here everyday and now we havent heard from her in weeks? | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 415 |
I remeber her saying something about a new job. I guess she has no internet access at work.
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Moderator Posts: 1276 |
IG, I think I missed answering your question on the German Volume.... I would do that training plan ONLY if I had the financial, scientific, and chemical backing of the German Government. Them boys had to be on some freaky shit when they came up with that plan let alone do it. ------------------ Lobo | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 415 |
Lobo, The funny part about GVT is the gains just kinda sneak up on you.I did it for like 6 weeks for squats (315 X 10 for 10) and no gains and got weaker then about a month later BAM! I got up 455 for a clean 10 reps and added an 1 1/2 inch to my thighs. IG | ||
Moderator Posts: 1276 |
Sweeeet, were you on at the time? ------------------ Lobo |
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