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JayeLynn
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posted June 28, 2000 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JayeLynn   Click Here to Email JayeLynn     Edit/Delete Message
I've finally reached the Body Opus section in Ducchaines "Body Opus". The following paragraph caught my attention and I'd love to see what you think as well.

"Many athletes eat too much protein. Your diet should 25 to 30 percent protein; more is not necessary not productive. People tend to consume more protein while dieting because they believe that more protein will prevent muscle loss. This only works in ultra-low-calorie, near-starvation diets in which protein is tto low in the first place. Most excess protein intake is scavenged by the liver for gluconeogenic amino acids, and the rest is turned into (saturated) fat. This is not an exonomical way of getting saturated fats. Fat is converted most easily to ketones, not amino acids."

So I calculated that, on a 2000 calorie diet, the maximum amount of protein you would need is 150g.

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bikinimom
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posted June 28, 2000 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bikinimom   Click Here to Email bikinimom     Edit/Delete Message
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MS
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posted June 28, 2000 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MS   Click Here to Email MS     Edit/Delete Message
There is some merit to what Dan says IF you're on a ketogenic diet. Excess protein WILL get converted to glycogen and burn as a carbohydrate. As such, too much protein will push you out of ketosis. Protein cannot dirctly convert to fat, but can end up as fat via carbohydrate conversion. This is one of the reasons a protein shake at bedtime is NOT a good idea if you're on a cutting diet.

However, this does not necessarily apply to the high protien, medium carb still favored by many BBs. On this sort of diet you are intentionally burning some dietary protein for energy in the hopes that it will spare muscle protien. You are also eating carbs so that you can maintain training intensity in the gym (something difficult to do on a ketogenic diet). Ketosis is not needed for this diet to be effective, and so excess protein conversion is not a bad thing as long as total calories are still restricted and you don't eat protein too close to bedtime or cardio.

Horses for courses.

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Iron God
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posted June 28, 2000 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iron God   Click Here to Email Iron God     Edit/Delete Message
Has anybody done the Body Opus??I knew BB's who have and aside from being absurdly complex it's a solid plan but your energy and srength will go down to zero and it's geared for competition no way to maintain that and still remain healthy.

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