posted June 26, 2000 12:01 PM         

Right now, though I am not taking anything while I lift but Yohimbe, and sometimes Xenadrine, but not everyday. The diet doctor near me gives the Phentermine and Adipex out to people who are 30% overweight, they won't give it to me anymore because I got down below that %.

posted June 26, 2000 12:51 PM            

Lobo you ever hear of this?????

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posted June 26, 2000 12:57 PM         

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Having a chubby girlfriend is like riding a moped - fun until your friends see you on it.

posted June 26, 2000 02:13 PM         

The active component of yohimbe bark is yohimbine, an alkaloid monoamine oxidase (MAO) inhibitor that blocks adrenergic receptors. This leads to an increase in dilation of blood vessels and a lowering of blood pressure. This enlargment of blood vessels, particularly in the sexual organs, is the generally accepted explanation of the physiological effects of the herb. Yohimbe also seems effective in elevating mood and reducing depression and anxiety, further contributing to its aphrodisiac activity.

Animal studies have shown that yohimbe does indeed increase sexual arousal and performance. Researchers conducting double-blind, placebo-controlled studies reported measurable improvements in sexual libedo and performance in men receiving the yohimbe versus those on placebo. Clearly in some cases yohimbe can improve sexual performance in those suffering from physiological and psychological impotence. Scientists have also recently found evidence that yohimbe may aid in weight loss by suppressing the body's ability to store fat.

Yohimbe is not without side-effects, which can include sweating, nausea and vomiting. Those taking MAO inhibitors such as tranquilizers, antidepressants or blood-pressure medications should not take yohimbe or any compounds containing yohimbine. Use of yohimbe is also contraindicated for pregnant women as well as persons with kidney disease, heart disease, liver disease, diabetes or ulcers. Persons with a history of psychoses should also avoid yohimbe as it has been known to trigger new episodes of psychic reaction..

posted June 26, 2000 02:58 PM            

In every known paper I've read, true spot reduction is not going to happen. It's the same thing with men and "love handles". Ain't going to happen. Spot reduction can only be achieved in one way - lipo. Yes yohimbe may help some, and it MIGHT work a bit better if you stack it and are in the upper 20's low 30's BF department. But I always try to look at the cost/benefit of anything - unless of course your fricking rich and then you just get the lipo anyways....

Dlady27, I would wager 98% of your reductions have come as result of diet and allot of hard work - and even that is being very optimist. Lets look at it this way. Lets say yohimbe COULD reduce localized fat by a mer 1% over a TWO month period. Making ZERO changes in your diet, training, or any other aspect of your life, we would see an incredible loss of 7.2 lbs. over a year for a 120lbs women in the hip/glute area. Well, that AIN'T going to happen - if it did then all of us would have bought stock and I'd go back to being a farmer in Iowa growing the damn trees cause they would be worth millions.

Late

Lobo

posted June 26, 2000 04:17 PM            

As a quick note, WarLobo is partly correct. Nolvadex and yohimbine (and some other things) are all helpful for lower body fat-loss, BUT they are mostly of benefit to women who are already lean and looking to lose that LAST bit of stubborn fat AFTER they've already lost all the other Sub-Q fat on their body from dieting, exercise, etc...

They should be considered 'finishing' drugs at best. I did not make this clear when I first started posting the praises of these drugs because I erroneously assumed most of the women on this board who were asking about these drugs (as well as AAS, T3, clenbuterol, etc...) were taking them with a view to compete. I am still getting my head around the casual use of these drugs as a quick-fix rather than making lifestyle changes to effect those changes on a more permanent basis. OK, I've just reread that and it sounds pretty flamey, but I'll leave it unedited for now.

If you want a quick-fix, I'm with WarLobo. Get Lipo. If you're already very, very lean and in your last 4-6 weeks before an important competition, then I'll post more deteils soon on Nolva/Yohimbine, etc...

posted June 26, 2000 04:18 PM            

As a quick note, WarLobo is partly correct. Nolvadex and yohimbine (and some other things) are all helpful for lower body fat-loss, BUT they are mostly of benefit to women who are already lean and looking to lose that LAST bit of stubborn fat AFTER they've already lost all the other Sub-Q fat on their body from dieting, exercise, etc...

They should be considered 'finishing' drugs at best. I did not make this clear when I first started posting the praises of these drugs because I erroneously assumed most of the women on this board who were asking about these drugs (as well as AAS, T3, clenbuterol, etc...) were taking them with a view to compete. I am still getting my head around the casual use of these drugs as a quick-fix rather than making lifestyle changes to effect those changes on a more permanent basis. OK, I've just reread that and it sounds pretty flamey, but I'll leave it unedited for now.

If you want a quick-fix, I'm with WarLobo. Get Lipo. If you're already very, very lean and in your last 4-6 weeks before an important competition, then I'll post more details soon on Nolva/Yohimbine, etc...

posted June 26, 2000 05:15 PM            

Dlady, I just want to make sure everyone knew that your improvements came from YOUR hard work and dedication and not some magic potion

Sometimes with threads like this, we must all be careful to take into consideration the level at which the person asking the question is currently at. What works at one level most always will not work at another. I've often make this assumption and I think that is why we get some of the newer ladies becoming confused. Then, add in what I think is "common knowledge" and you can see how this might compound the problem.

Remember all, this is an incredible complex thing we try to do and more often than not you take one step back for every two steps forward.

Late

posted June 27, 2000 09:24 AM            

Bunny

posted June 27, 2000 10:10 AM         

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3 Month Supply (90 pills) of Phentermine 30mg Capsules $249
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3 Month Supply (90 pills) of Phentermine 37.5mg Tablets $349
1 Month Supply (30 pills) of Ionamin 30mg Capsules $169
3 Month Supply (90 pills) of Ionamin 30mg Capsules $449
1 Month Supply (30 pills) of Phentermine 15mg Capsules $129
3 Month Supply (90 pills) of Phentermine 15mg Capsules $249

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posted June 30, 2000 07:18 PM            

Pretty pricy stuff.
Wonder if you can get it in Mexico??