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Snow White

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posted June 22, 2000 09:49 AM

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Ok, gonna go for the plunge(r). How does this sound??

wk 1 50/mg deca
wk 2 75/mg deca
wk 3 sust250
wk 4 100/primo + 4 mg/win/day
wk 5 100/primo + 6 mg/win/day
wk 6 250 + 6mg/win/day
wk 7 4mg win/day
wk 8 4mg win/day

opionion please


SW


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Iron God

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posted June 22, 2000 10:30 AM

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you seem to be all over the place with this Hit the SUS week 1 and 4 if you can use deca instead of primo and try 6mg of winny(Iron God hates Winny orals) ED for the whole cycle. Keep your calories up and you should be good. I�ve never had women taper off a cycle, no reason too. Although I do recommend clen for 2 to 3 weeks post cycle to help with the cortisol crash. WE can definitely put together a much better cycle for you if you tell us what you have access to and in what quantities

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WarLobo

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posted June 22, 2000 10:38 AM

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Why not start out with sust? It does take a bit to "ramp up" Stack the deca and keep it at 50mg for both weeks - but up to you, I know how much you like the deca and have used it before. Combining the sust and deca, I think you would see some good results right out of the gate. If you plan to do your last sust on week 6, carry our your winny for at least four weeks to coincide with the natural sust taper, so, this would mean extending your cycle to 10 weeks. Which is, in my opinion, a average length for a women.

Oh, and one other thing, In exchange for the information I sent you, you are REQUIRED to post weekly updates

Can't wait for you to get started!!

Late

Lobo


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Iron God

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posted June 22, 2000 10:49 AM

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Lobo,
Was that a yea or nay for 1cc sus week one? And if no than why? And is their rule of thumb for women and Tests dosage?

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Snow White

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posted June 22, 2000 11:24 AM

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So, the cycle should look as so:

wk 1 250/50mg dec
wk 2 50mg dec
wk 3 100/primo 4mg win
wk 4 100/primo 6mg win
wk 5 100/primo 4mg win
wk 6 250/4mg win
wk 7-10 4mg/win


I'm due for oral surgery sometime in July so I can't start yet. As soon as it's over I plan to indulge. Can I mix the deca & sust in the same pin??

Iron,
I just ordered the 250 & Clen. need advice on clen dosage.


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WonderWoman

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posted June 22, 2000 01:07 PM

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Hey there Snow. IMHO you are gonna be one tough sister after that cycle. What are your goals for this? Where are you starting in regard to stats and poundages? I gotta say that I admire your guts. As the saying goes go hard or go HOME!! As a female who tends to be pretty hardcore, I would be terrified to try that cycle! Another question, what is your training/ diet plan while on? I can't tell you how pleased I was after a measly primo/winny cycle that got interupted. I would be un-freaking-stoppable after doing your stack. Please keep us posted and good luck with your surgery.
WW


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WarLobo

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posted June 22, 2000 01:49 PM

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Yes, use the sust at the start. This will be the base of the cycle, then fill with the deca, primo, winny as needed.

Maybe something like this:

Wk1 sust250/50mg deca
Wk2 50mg deca
Wk3 50mg deca
Wk4 sust250/50mg (or 100mg) of primo
Wk5 50mg (or 100mg) of primo
Wk6 50mg or 100 mg of primo
Wk7 sust250/ 4 to 6 winny per day
Wk8 4 to 6 winny per day
Wk9 4 to 6 winny per day
Wk10 4 to 6 winny per day

This will give you three weeks with the sust/deca combo, three weeks with the sust/primo combo, and a full four weeks with sust/winny combo. You have the option to go the whole 100mg of primo or backing it off a tad depending on how your reacting - same with the winny. This will give you a solid 10 weeks to put some quality muscle on and also give you some room on the dosage side. As stated, no need to taper and I like the clen following the last winny dose. Some other notes, with using the winny orals you only have to inject once per week. And I would MOST DEFINATELY combine the sust with the deca and the sust with the primo in the same dart! Else your butt is going to fricking hurt. And do not go into the shoulder on this cycle. You may find some discomfort with the glute injection, but you go into the shoulder with sust and you might want to cut it off You can go into the quad if it is more easy to reach.

I'm getting chills just talking about this!! All in all it's not that big of a cycle, maybe some GH, now that would really be some icing on the cake!

Be sure to get some Nizoral shampoo, and get you protein shakes ready!

One more thing, have a pair of scissors ready so you can cut some slats in your cloths to make room for all that beef your about to put on

Late

Lobo


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Snow White

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posted June 22, 2000 02:20 PM

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Hey Lobo,
You're killing me here! Nothing can be as bad as a demarol shot in the delt. I was sore for 3 days. Very hard for me to butt shoot. Are we talking hair loss here?? Maybe we need to weaken this or shorten it a little.

Snow


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Iron God

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posted June 22, 2000 02:31 PM

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Cmon!!! whats a little hair in light of the gains your gonna make

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BigPappa

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posted June 22, 2000 02:32 PM

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That goes for Primo too...that shit feels like cement going into your arm and lingers around for a few hours!!!


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WarLobo

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posted June 22, 2000 04:49 PM

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Your always going have the factor of hair loss with any form of test - and most roids for that mater. However, that being said, your overall levels are not that high (as compaired to say what I'm on right now) I always advise the use of nizoral, it's not that much for a bottle and why not be safe.

This is also why I put in the 50mg of primo instead of the 100mg.

And if your cool with the delt shot, go for it. You may find susts does not hurt all that much. Myself, I don't react that bad at all. But, my friend, holy shit, does he hate it.

Late

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MS

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posted June 22, 2000 05:56 PM

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I've not heard of hair-loss being a big issue for most women. The doses are so low compared to even men who aren't on any gear, and usually the duration is short, too. Of course if you're a more serious female (as it sounds like you are Snow) then some precautions are a good idea. But it is rare for even many PRO females to suffer significant MPB unless they're taking s**tloads of highly androgenic stuff without decent breaks. If you've got any Brothers with MPB I would be PARTICULARLY careful.

NOTE: This is NOT a promise that you won't lose any hair with this cycle. Just an educated observation that it is less likely to happen than to a guy on 10 times as much of the same gear.

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Cocktails

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posted August 31, 2000 01:56 AM

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Bump for printing


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F1hybrid

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posted August 31, 2000 09:47 AM

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I've talked to women who have used 250 mg sustanon and 200 mg nandrolone per week for 10 - 12 weeks. No problems with hair loss, but a lot of problems with hair growth. A couple use 125 mg Sus + 100 mg nandrolone
year round off-season. Again, no problems with hair loss, but a lot of hair growth.

One used Proscar 5 mg (1/2 tab) daily. She thought this helped.

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WarLobo

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posted August 31, 2000 10:05 AM

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Finastride and deca are a no no....

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