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My diet today so far. How am I going to feel at 5 pm

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Texas Guns Moderator (Total posts: 482)	posted June 15, 2000 04:34 PM Well, on my way back to recovery, this is what I have eaten so far today. This morning I had oatmeal and a protein shake. (this was late morning). Lunch consisted of not much ( I was sick to my stomach from the vitamins). This afternoon I had a small whole wheat bagle with natural peanut butter, and I have been snacking on hot peppers. Ooooooh. After looking this over, it doesn't look to good. My protein is way too low. Will probably have a protien shake this afternoon and for dinner(after an attempted workout) will have baked cod, baked sweet potatoe, brown rice, and steamed broccoli. I do have much more energy than yesterday. Could be all those hot peppers! Okay, now, fire away!!! Mrs. TG ------------------ "That which does not kill us, makes us stronger!" IP: Logged
MS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 323)	posted June 15, 2000 04:51 PM Where's the fat? A bit of peanut butter? It looks like you're still on a cutting diet. Is that the plan? I thought you would can the wieght-loss until you got your thyroid back on track. I don't know the portion sizes, but it doesn't look like much food for someone trying to kick-start their metabolism. What do you think JoeManly (or is it ManlyJoe-OH I'm so confused now)? Of course this is all theoretical. What's important right now is how you feel. ------------------ The Mad Scientist IP: Logged
Texas Guns Moderator (Total posts: 482)	posted June 15, 2000 04:57 PM I did add some flax seed oil to my shake. It is so hard to reprogram my mind into eating right again, but I am trying. Keep firing away!!! IP: Logged
JayeLynn Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 134)	posted June 15, 2000 06:04 PM well, I can see that this little dog isn't going to roll over easily. (This is JoeManly speaking) On the side I made the following recommendations: just to get things started, I want you to start using the following as your primary source of fats: avacados pumpkin seeds peanuts (dry roasted preferably) olive oil, corn oil and flax for your protein, I want you to use the following: chicken cornish hen tuna turkey (I want you to minimize your consumption of milk (including butter), eggs, beef, and pork.) For your carbs, I'm going to have to refresh my memory at home this evening. I'll get back with you on that one, but I will make the following recommendations: cut out oranges and bananas limit comsumption of white bread The oatmeal is still a very good idea, but I'd ultimately like to see you train yourself off the sweetners. Try journalling your intake for a couple of days so that you can develop a feel for what 40/30/30 looks/feels like. I believe that you mentioned that youre up to 1900 calories per day. That would mean that you would need to consume 190 grams of protein, 105 grams of carbs, and 47 grams of fat per day. If you evenly divide this over say 5 meals, that would be 38g protein/21g carb/8g fat per meal. At this early stage of your recovery, I would also recommend that you try to keep these ratios equal throughout the day. ...don't be tapering your carbs off towards the end of the day. FYI, a can of tuna has 32.5g of protein and 2.5 g of fat 1 cup of oats plain has 27 carbs and 1 Tablespoon of oil has 14 g of fat. So say you got some lettuce greens and put a can of tuna on top and 1/2T of olive oil: you've met your requirements for those two elements in a meal.....not hard. Like I said, I'll get back with you on the carb recommendations. With that in mind, I'd say that what TG has posted falls substantially short of well balanced. But I don't want to discourage the efforts. Truth be told, I have no idea what your daily intake looked like before trouble hit (beyond the 1400 cal total). In all due fairness, I can be pretty rigid on diet and I know that the average/real person does not bother with such quagmire. Sounds to me like TG is seeing some positive results on a fraction of the effort which would imply to me that her thyroid is quite recoverable. ------------------ Feel Free to Underestimate me ;) IP: Logged
Texas Guns Moderator (Total posts: 482)	posted June 15, 2000 06:11 PM One day at a time ladies, and I will get there....promise!!! IP: Logged
WarLobo Moderator (Total posts: 657)	posted June 15, 2000 06:53 PM Don't make me come over to Texas and wap ya up side the head.... You eat what we tells ya ta eat! Or else we start callen ya Texas Pee Shooter - TPS for short :p Late Lobo IP: Logged
skydancer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 166)	posted June 15, 2000 07:51 PM TPS...oops - I mean Mrs Guns...definately start journaling your meals. I suggest planning the night before so your meals are set in the manner that jayelynn described. This helped me tremendously to get my body used to eating steady amounts of good food. I have a background of binge/starve/purge and whatever else gets thrown in that mix. I started journaling almost a year ago but until I started really going for a balance in all the meals my behavior around food could get erratic. Balance in all things...keep working at it! Oh - for fruit (to get all those good min/vit) raspberries, strawberries are excellent and lower in fruit sugar. Is your oatmeal the slow cooking kind? Thats better than instant. IP: Logged
Texas Guns Moderator (Total posts: 482)	posted June 16, 2000 11:52 AM Yes my oatmeal is slow cooking. Okay food experts...give me a meal or better yet, give me my meals for one day and include calorie, protein, carb, and fat content. Are any of you up for the challenge???? Yes, this means you too WarLobo!!!! Mrs. TG IP: Logged
skydancer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 166)	posted June 16, 2000 12:27 PM Okay TG - here's a breakdown from one of my days: 6am Protein Shake 180kcal,2gFat,4gCarb,2gFiber,34gPro 7:30am 1c oatmeal, 1c blueberries, 1whole egg, 4 whites 370kcal,9gFat,48gCarb,8gFiber,26gPro 11am 1 can lowsodium Tuna, 2tbs lf mayo, chopped carrot, celery, green onion and spinach (2-3c total), 1/4 avocado, 1/2 grapefruit 388kcal,11gFat,20gCarb,2gFiber,51gPro 2pm 4oz skinless chicken breast, 2c marinated veg salad (homemade w/zuch, caul, green beans etc - smidgen of canola oil) 201kcal,6gFat,9gCarb,3gFiber,28gPro 4:30pm Protein Shake (same as 6am) 7pm 5oz red snapper coated with 1tbs wheat germ cooked in 1/2tbs olive oil, 2c steamed broc/caul, 1/2c lf mozz cheese 382kcal,14gFat,16gCarb,7gFiber,52gPro TOTAL: 1720kcal,44gFat,105gCarb,27gFiber,226gPRo There you have it...its not perfect but it works for me!! (Geez - think I eat enough???) IP: Logged
skydancer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 166)	posted June 16, 2000 12:37 PM Forgot to add....at least 6liters of H20, and flax seed oil....the flax brings up the fat and kcal just slightly. IP: Logged
Texas Guns Moderator (Total posts: 482)	posted June 16, 2000 04:09 PM Thanks skydancer!! Any more critiques or suggestions?? IP: Logged
MS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 323)	posted June 18, 2000 02:53 PM So how DID you feel at 5pm?? ------------------ The Mad Scientist IP: Logged
Texas Guns Moderator (Total posts: 482)	posted June 20, 2000 12:23 PM It just seems that no matter what I eat good or bad, I am still spent by 5 everyday. Later in the evening I might rustle up some more energy but not much. Think I will go back for a second opinion from another doc. Wish I knew what else to do. But yes I am eating right and as natural as I possibly can. Mrs. TG IP: Logged
skydancer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 166)	posted June 20, 2000 12:34 PM Hang in there TG - your body is still healing...you'll get it back!! IP: Logged
Iron God Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 88)	posted June 20, 2000 01:43 PM Mrs. Texas Guns don't take this the wrong but why don't you get your own handle? It gets kinda of confused sometimes between you and the Mr.TG ------------------ Nam Et Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est! IP: Logged
masterhunker Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11)	posted June 20, 2000 03:16 PM Don't think I caught everything on why Mrs. T Guns is "spent" by 5. I'm having the same freakin problem though. My mind is still not used to this diet-as I am used to basically starving myself to lose weight. Now that I'm in this building process-I'm having a hard time eating enough. I'm taking Clen (1 wk on, 1 wk off), and am in my off week. Would this possibly be some sort of side effect? I feel like I crash so hard mid-morning-get some energy back around noon-and crash again around 3. I only get about 4-5 hours of sleep (trying to work on that). I'm eating 5-6 egg whites, 1 cup of oatmeal, and 1/2 a cantalope in the AM. I usually have 1/2 of an isopure around 10 (which is making me sick to my stomach for some reason this week), and have a can of tuna (or chick. breast), 1-1/2 c. of broccoli, and a small bkd. potato for lunch. I have finish the isopure a few hours later and have a similar meal to lunch for dinner. Is this enough? Why is it so hard to get my mind into eating? My workouts are the same as a month ago-and nothing else has changed (minus some emotional crap at home). Any suggestions??? IP: Logged
MS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 323)	posted June 20, 2000 03:52 PM Most people struggle with 'post-clen crash'. This is one of the reasons it's most often cycled with ECA on the off-weeks. The ECA will minimize the crash. Mrs TG's crash was bigger than that though. She's having problems because she damaged her thyroid from hard dieting too long and supplemental thyroid homones. Your symptoms could be the result of over-training combined with a low-carb diet. Both can knock your energy levels and turn you into an insomniac. It doesn't make any sense that over-training would make you sleep LESS, but no one said life was fair. The up-side of poor sleep is that you burn more calories when you're awake then when you're asleep! And remember that Clen can also muck with your sleep big-time even several days after you've stopped taking it. ------------------ The Mad Scientist IP: Logged
Texas Guns Moderator (Total posts: 482)	posted June 21, 2000 10:39 AM Just to clarify for Iron God, I am the original Texas Guns and my husband later became Mr. Texas Guns after his original handle would not give him access. If I changed my name, I would be even more lost than I am now!!!! By the way....who am I???? Where am I?????? Mrs. TG IP: Logged

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