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fitchic
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 02, 2000 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fitchic   Click Here to Email fitchic     Edit/Delete Message
My boyfriend is recently planning to juice. I am new and have been against it. I understand his desire but would like to know from women the side affects if any that they have seen in their relationships. I have read the cases but I want to know personally from a women what to expect thanks.

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young1
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posted April 02, 2000 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for young1   Click Here to Email young1     Edit/Delete Message
Fitchick, I'm not a women but, I can tell you what my girl has told me. We've had several conversations on this subject and even though I've never noticed any changes in attitude, she has mentioned that I get slightly impatient and sometimes easily aggrivated. But, the truth is everyone reacts differently, so no matter what input you get just consider the average. Good luck.
Young1

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LadyJaye
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posted April 02, 2000 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LadyJaye   Click Here to Email LadyJaye     Edit/Delete Message
Hi fitchic - I a currently going through the same thing. My boyfriend has wanted to juice on and off for a couple years but he never did. But now I can tell, and we've talked about it a lot, that he's really ready. His close friend just did a 12wk cycle of d-bol and sust and had no side effects that he claims of (except for a little shrinkage if you know what I mean). But he's not in a relationship right now so who knows about things like irritability and stuff. Anyway it depends on what your boyfriend plans on doing because there are different side effects for different steroids and most importantly like young1 said everyone reacts differently so you never know. What I reccomend is to keep the lines of communication open about it, do the research like you mentioned and don't let him go overboard. Because any problems I've ever heard or read about are from people who stacked and did more than one cycle and didn't do any research first. Good Luck and keep us updated!

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ANVIL 2
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posted April 03, 2000 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ANVIL 2   Click Here to Email ANVIL 2     Edit/Delete Message
IT ALL DEPENDS ON YOUR PERSONALITY TO BEGIN WITH. IF YOUR BOYFRIEND IS PREDISPOSED TO VIOLENT BEHAVIOURB THE A.S. THERAPY WOULD IN THEORY CREATE A HIGHER INCIDENCE OF RAGE.

PERSONALITY, I HAVED NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH "ROID RAGE".

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WarLobo
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posted April 04, 2000 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarLobo   Click Here to Email WarLobo     Edit/Delete Message
Very well said Anvil. I've never had any sort of "roid rage" and I think it is sometimes used as an excuse to justify ones actions. Now I do increase my intensity, but this is not the same thing at all. The only real side is that I fricking get too damn horny... That's why I try never to workout at "fu fu" gyms with all them fitness babes....

If anything I tend to over compensate and try to be extra nice etc. There is always the mental aspect of a cycle and it is every bit as important as the physical. Balance is important especially when your talking about a relationship with a girl/boy friend, wife, husband and children. If your better half supports you it MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE during a cycle. So when ever I "go on" I try to make the extra effort and be extra helpful, you know, maybe a extra dinner out or bit more helpful on the house work stuff. I've said, "Hey, since I'm on, I'm a bit more energetic and just though I would do the dishes..." THIS ALWAYS GETS A BIG ROUND OF APPROVAL! But what ever you do, make it a positive deal for everyone so that the NEXT time your spending hundreds of dollars the feedback is on the bright side.

Late

Lobo

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blackhaus1
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posted April 04, 2000 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blackhaus1   Click Here to Email blackhaus1     Edit/Delete Message
My boyfriend is a MOODY bastard. After a long break from roids, hes back and doing alot of them and one day hes a sweetie and the next hes the devil. Hes not abusive but he is most certainly cranky. Just keep him eating right. I think alot of my guys crankiness can be attributed to his dieting so he can lose weight.

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buck o five
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posted April 06, 2000 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buck o five   Click Here to Email buck o five     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 59192752
From everything I have read about AS, there is no such thing as "roid rage". What it is, is all in their mind. I am on my first cycle as we speek and I have no side effects and have not been enraged anymore or any less.
Think of it like this, if you take a guy that has been relatively small his entire life and put him on steroids and let him gain 20-30 lbs of muscle you're taking a head that was once a mild mannered mind and gave him powers he never thought possible. In all reality his head just got 20-30 lbs bigger. I'm tired of people saying that they have "roid rage" there is no such thing. If he cannot handle the growth he will go through and keep a level head in his own mind then he does not need to be taking steroids. It is a simple matter of self discipline. Hope this has been informative to you. Y'all have nice day, lift hard a grow!!!

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100acrewoods
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posted April 06, 2000 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 100acrewoods   Click Here to Email 100acrewoods     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30177303
I will tell you firsthand that there is a definite mood change when you introduce exogenous hormones into your system. The problem here lies in the fact that the person who is "under the influence" does not detect any of the changes, since it is happening to them. Anyone that tells you they do not experience any change in behavior is full of shit. Notice I said "change". Some individuals do not get violent, they get calmer. But everyone does go through a change. It may be positive or negative, depending on the individual.

Consider that women go through the exact same process when they experience PMS, then you will know what I am talking about.

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WarLobo
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posted April 06, 2000 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarLobo   Click Here to Email WarLobo     Edit/Delete Message
Women have deceived ALL us males! There is no such thing as PMS. They just want and extra week of sympathy and an excuse to be bitchy! We now have a week of pre m-cycle, a week of the actual cycle, and then a week of post m-cycle! Shit, might as well add in one more week and call it game over.... So WTF, us guys do a little 'ol cycle of eight weeks, half of which we MAY get a little testy - shit we got a life time of catching UP!

:p :p :p

Let the flames roll. Come on ladies - post up and TRY to deny this! 'Bout time to stir the pot a bit.

[This message has been edited by WarLobo (edited April 07, 2000).]

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blackhaus1
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posted April 07, 2000 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blackhaus1   Click Here to Email blackhaus1     Edit/Delete Message
hey i am female and i agree with u! LOL

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Texas Guns
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posted April 10, 2000 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Texas Guns   Click Here to Email Texas Guns     Edit/Delete Message
i support my husband 100% in what he does. He of course does the same for me. We discussed using juice for a long time before we actually did it. He can be very moody, but when he's on the juice he takes time to watch what he says and does and if he slips, I just blow it off. I work with him in the gym because I know he is capable of more than the average joe bodybuilder while juicing. I also give him all his injections, so that I monitor what goes in and watch for the side effects. One of which is absolutely awesome sex!!!!!! Do you think you can handle that one????

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WarLobo
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posted April 10, 2000 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarLobo   Click Here to Email WarLobo     Edit/Delete Message
In your last reply you said, and I quote, "I just blow it off."

To what are you referring Mrs. Texas Guns?!?!

Late

Lobo


p.s. Yes that was a weak response, but it's the best I can do after such a brutal weekend!

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BIG RICK ROCK
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posted April 11, 2000 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG RICK ROCK   Click Here to Email BIG RICK ROCK     Edit/Delete Message
I ALSO WONDER TO WHAT SHE IS REFERING???

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Vitality
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posted April 16, 2000 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vitality   Click Here to Email Vitality     Edit/Delete Message
I once dated a guy juicing. The good thing was that he was horney all the time and sex was fantastic! The down side, he was very aggressive, pushy and turned into a control freak. If I were to go to the grocery store without telling him he'd drive around town looking for me thinking I was out up to no good. One time he became violent and got in my face yelling and screaming about something stupid (like my tennis lesson ran late) and he pushed me. That was the end of our relationship. I later heard that he was admitted to the state mental instution for punching his new girlfriend in the face, and his family was trying to get him off the roids....all I can say is be careful around men who are on the juice.

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blackhaus1
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posted April 17, 2000 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blackhaus1   Click Here to Email blackhaus1     Edit/Delete Message
Vitality,
Just because you got one bad egg, it doesn't mean that they are all like that...My boyfriend juices and can be the most loving, cutest guy alive. I have, in the past, written about his moods, however they have nothing to do with steroids, but family problems. Hes such a sweetheart so don't go giving all juicers a bad name!

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Texas Guns
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posted April 17, 2000 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Texas Guns   Click Here to Email Texas Guns     Edit/Delete Message
War Lobo,

In response to your question, all I can say is that a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do.

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WarLobo
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posted April 17, 2000 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarLobo   Click Here to Email WarLobo     Edit/Delete Message
Hey there Mrs. TG, were you the one talking about the spot reductions with yohimb? If you were, check out Jaylynn's post or drop her a line. She as some questions about it. I don't have to worry about spot reductions... I just have to loose it all over :P

Late

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Vitality
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posted April 17, 2000 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vitality   Click Here to Email Vitality     Edit/Delete Message
Blackhaus1- I'm not trying to give all juicers a bad name (so back off!) I'm just giving her my experience as she asked for.
Of corse it depends on the individual but roids can change a person. My guy was sweet as pie before he started juicing and then turned into some jerk. My advice: be careful.

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blackhaus1
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posted April 18, 2000 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blackhaus1   Click Here to Email blackhaus1     Edit/Delete Message
Wasn't trying to get on your case...bu ti have no need to be careful...I am very happy..

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FitnessChick
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posted April 26, 2000 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
my man had a little increase in agression & a little bit of a temper, but he didnt turn into another person...i think it depends on who the person is who is taking it...how they are naturally...

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Diver
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posted May 06, 2000 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diver   Click Here to Email Diver     Edit/Delete Message
Fitchick:

I'll be devils advocate here. I get reeaally testy & short tempered. The littlest things piss me off and my girl says I snap at her alot, but then she gives me her big beutiful smile and it all melts away

i guess if your like her and can find a good way to tone it down, you shouldnt have any probs!

peace

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Bunny55
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posted May 07, 2000 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bunny55   Click Here to Email Bunny55     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry, but even on a light cycle, I was every mans dream, and horry as hell, a walking "YES" - good thing I had a good bf!!
The mood changes with the steroids, and as for PMS, well it is also a hormone change and can differ from one woman to the next.
Has anyne ever tried Xanex for staying down while you are juicing?? I think it will work and may try it and see what happens.
I have used them off steroids and they make you have a bad case of "I dont give a shit about anything" so it may offset the roids rather well.


"This is who we are"

Bunny

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Dawn
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posted May 18, 2000 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dawn   Click Here to Email Dawn     Edit/Delete Message
I have to say, when my man is on a cycle, he is on top of the world. If it's test, hes even hiher, but comeing off is another thing. He gets pretty depressed and has to be reassured that he looks good. No matter how big he is, when he weighs in that morning, if its 1 lb less than the day before, he is upset. He has been off for 6 weeks straight today!! Last cycle was winstrol which really cut him up and he has been able to stay at the same weight the whole time off. Hes not as shreaded as he was before, but I think he looks great and hes happy with himself. If you support your man and help him keep his spirits up, he'll be fine. Just be sure to take the time to tell him how great he looks, even when he is off the juice.

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aten8
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posted May 22, 2000 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aten8   Click Here to Email aten8     Edit/Delete Message
I'd have to say that when I'm on I am very impaitent the smallest wait seems to annoy the shit out of me. Somewhat moody, and can be aggresive(not violently). This is just an increase in these moods, but it really doesn't effect me or the people around me. At least thats what I tell myself. HeeHee and oh ya extremly horny. My girlfriend likes that part so I guess its all worth it.

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fitchic
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posted May 24, 2000 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fitchic   Click Here to Email fitchic     Edit/Delete Message
Thanx so much for everyones responses. I appreciate the advance notice as to what to look for. My boyfriend is a bit moody and that worries me a bit. He is already a big guy and wants to get bigger. I think he looks great(as well as others) but I understand why he feels he has to do it. He currently has decided to hold off the juice,research more and go natural meanwhile... Or thats what he tells me. However, if anything changes I may need helpful hints how to watch for any negative signs. My major concern is his health and safety. I will keep you posted.

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ShreddedBabe
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posted May 24, 2000 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShreddedBabe   Click Here to Email ShreddedBabe     Edit/Delete Message
Hi!!!
His reactions will depend on what kind of juice he is using...atleast that's how my boyfriend are!!!!
Mine got crazy and depressed on one kind but he was ok on other kinds.
But one thing to remember.....they get horny as hell!!!!!
Have fun....
Kari=O)

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