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 My girlfriend wants to start her first cycle....
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Cool Novice 
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She wants to combine anavar and clen. How should she do this? ------------------ [This message has been edited by bigbobb (edited December 29, 2000).]    | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 33 |
anbyody? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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You tell me BOB
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Can we have any info on her----stats, goals, etc.....this is a very broad question.... | ||
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Cool Novice
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She will kill me because I don't know her stats exactly. She is around 5'7" and at 130lbs. She wants to shed some fat, and build some hard muscle with increased strenght. I am not sure what doses to reccomend to her, as I have not ventured into the world of steroids for females. She has been working out for the past two years and eats right. I hope this helps. | ||
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Moderator 
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Thank you for editing that img ------------------ Lobo | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 33 |
LOL.......I didn't even think of it until later. I have just had that thing linked for so long that I forgot about it here. Sorry all, no hard feelings I hope. =) ------------------ [This message has been edited by bigbobb (edited December 29, 2000).] | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1983 |
Read the thread by Hardcore, he is using winny this go round and there are some good posts, then we can take it from there. No hard feelings, just glad you were polite enough to do it yourself. Not that a lot of us don't mind that sort of thing.... ------------------ Lobo | ||
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Cool Novice
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Okay how about this for starters. Anavar at 10mg ed 5 in morning, 5 at night Clen 60mcg ed for 5 days on, 2 off How long should she do this for? I think she should be able to harden up her muscles, while shedding some fat. | ||
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Cool Novice
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For pete's sake, I'll answer his question. 10 mg/day is in my opinion too much anavar to start with. I'd recommend 5 mg or 7.5 mg/day first cycle. I guess the clen is fine though my g/f does 2 on/2 off but 5 on/2 off is another option. I'm assuming an 8 week cycle. | ||
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Cool Novice
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Thank you very much for the information senior gate, I appreciate it. =) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Gato,
At prey tell is the reasoning behind the 2 on 1 off or the 5 on 2 off that your proposing? Not a flame Gato but if your gonna jump in there and answer a question at least make sure your correct. Bob the lengthy and complete answers to your questions are in the archives, the reason we tell people so adamently to do a search is so they can make a informed decision and ask SPECIFIC questions.
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Moderator
Posts: 1983 |
One point I would like to make, it is directed to everyone in general, and not specifically you Gato. We take a great deal of time to thoroughly investigate this type of sitch because we are dealing with the subject via a third person. And damn near every time this third person has ZERO experience with women�s cycles. Women's cycles can be somewhat overwhelming and a tad more complex in that there is little room for error and we are always trying to minimize the side. To expect a trifle answer in a day is naive and I for one will not allow it on this board. If one wants that sort of opinion there are other boards out there. We ask the questions because we need to know. Because we require it. If it takes a day, a week, a month, then so be it. What is a month? If a lady miss-doses she will PERMANENTLY have to live with the results - and all to often the miss-dose is administered by someone else. OK, rant over�. I�ll pick up on this tomorrow with my 02 on your plan of attack Bigbob ------------------ Lobo | ||
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Cool Novice
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Thank you everyone who did post back. I did research this before I posted, but there were so many varying opinions that it was very confusing. For one, every guy had something different to say then the women. That's why I posted and decided to bug ya all. =) I'll be waiting for your response lobo, and thanks again to everyone that helped out. ------------------ [This message has been edited by bigbobb (edited December 30, 2000).] | ||
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Posts: 1983 |
Anavar is tops for muscle preservation, strength, and minimal sides including water retention. All of which make it a prim candidate for fitness women getting close to a show, or the novic wishing to drop body fat while maintaining muscle. However, to build mass, anavar just does not have the edge women need when you compare other options. Unless you happen to stack it with a small amount of test, or another mass builder (GH). But this is not a first timers cycle.... At 5'7 and 130 she should have no problem with 10mg per day (what type of anavar do you have?) However, that being said, if your going to be conservative, and that's ok too, then 5mg per day will be fine to start. If all goes well the first two weeks, then you can notch it up. But remember, this is not a muscle building cycle, she will not put on any ADDITIONAL muscle, the goal with this dosing and choice of gear is strickly for shedding some fat. As long as you clear on this. Now the clen is clen and no big mistery, so I'm not going to go into that much, other than to say, I, myself, would cycle it two weeks on, then switch to E/C/A for two weeks, back to the clen for two, then back to E/C/A. You can finish there. BUT, I would extend the cycle to ten weeks and finish with two weeks of clen - ten weeks for your, er, her body to adjust to the reduced weight. By that time, things are warming up, the sun is out, and she will be lean and mean - ready to sport that new swim suit. And, she'll be so good looking that she dumps you for a rich guy... LOL, sorry, had to get in a quick jab ------------------ Lobo | ||
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Cool Novice
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Yes, I think for a first cycle for a woman 10 mg is too much if you have no clue how she will respond. My g/f has done many many cycles over 3 yrs and had almost no sides because we started super slow. Big Bob's g/f can take 15-20 mg as far as I'm concerned, but I wouldn't personally recommend it for a first cycle. For anyone reading this, I tend to err on the side of caution. The 2 on/2 off clen is like talking about ECA or GH doses and times. Before taking it I heard at least 4 or 5 dosage levels and cycles of clen. Every person I know has a different cycling theory. I don't think 2 on/2 off is "incorrect", it's just one way to do it. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 33 |
Thanks lobo, that is exactly the information I have been looking for. Very informative. | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1983 |
Well said Gato, and I agree with your philosophy of going slow. By the 2on/2off for the clen, are you referring to days? If so, this has long ago been proven incorrect as the clen is still with you on the off days due to it's half-life.... ------------------ Lobo |
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posted December 28, 2000 10:31 PM
